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BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions IV

Old 10th Feb 2011, 15:22
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I wonder if it's the same working mum who missed the birth of her own child
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 15:39
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Unite Advert

Thought this was a joke bearing in mind the fact that the website it points to refers to last year's action. It isn't, it's real! Unbef*****glievable. I can almost guarantee BA's lawyers have already written. Really, beyond the pale.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 15:52
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I note your answers and it probably highlights why I am not a manager in today's business world.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 15:55
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As bassa net between 750,000 and 900,000 per annum, in addition to what they pay Unite, then I guess they have to spend it on something.
It can't all go on the luxury homes in California..................and you would get an awful lot of tomato seeds for that sort of money.

I wonder why the members don't follow the money, simply by asking for independently audited accounts.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:06
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I went to the so-called "Brutish Airways" website and noted on the front page an invitation to click on a button to send BA's Chairman a personal email. I quote below in italics the form letter email wording in full:

"I am very concerned that British Airways' reputation and standing are being diminished by the long-running dispute between management and cabin crew.

Over 4000 crew have been punished for taking action to defend themselves against imposition. More than 50 workers have been suspended, most for trivial reasons. And seven crew have been sacked. This is no way for our national carrier to do business. Since this dispute started last year, millions of pounds have been lost to the company. Settling it now will cost nothing.

Please bring back the world's favourite airline.

Yours sincerely"

Note in the Union's own words my bolded number which, assuming the punishment is referring to the loss of ST, rather suggests that BA's figures of ~4900 dwindling to ~4300 striking CC would be correct and the Union's insistence of "over 7000 claiming strike pay", etc, appears to be as inaccurate as its current membership records.

I'll not mention the incorrect use of the apostrophe

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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:07
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Since the dates for strike action noted on the brutish airways site do not have a year indicated, I suspect that BA will ask for an immediate retraction and possibly damages for any loss of business
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:12
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strike dates on brutish web

Quite, Col white. Hadn't thought of that. Big troublle ahead for Unite/Bassa.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:12
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I have said it before and I say it again: the way BASSA is conducting this dispute is far, far better entertainment than any televisual situation comedy.

If there was a BAFTA award for incompetence, then it would be a close-run thing, with the two main contenders being Duncan Holley and Len McLuskey.

I do feel very, very sorry for their supporting cast, though.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:24
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My sympathies to the 57% CC

the way BASSA is conducting this dispute is far, far better entertainment than any televisual situation comedy
In the same way that in Classical Rome it was entertaining to watch Christians in the Forum?
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:28
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Ho-hum ... another interesting afternoon!

I don't suppose McLuskey or Holley could muster a tablespoon of common sense between them. Do they share "Keir Hardie's Cap"? or wear it on alternate days?

It simply gets more farcical by the minute, and I really do commend BA for their incredible patience in face of these slanders. I wonder when their patience will really expire, and the BIG High Court cases start?
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:29
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I'll not mention the incorrect use of the apostrophe
Looked OK to me....
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:30
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I have said it before and I say it again: the way BASSA is conducting this dispute is far, far better entertainment than any televisual situation comedy.
I agree but, to be fair, BASSA probably has a larger budget than the producers of some of the lower-budget sit-coms.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:45
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I'll not mention the incorrect use of the apostrophe
Looked OK to me....
According to our learned friends at the Apostrophe Protection Society, see the third example under listed item 2 at the below website, whereby to indicate possession for a singluar entity that ends in an "s" the correct use would be "British Airways's reputation"

Apostrophe Protection Society

"British Airways' reputation" implies that it is the collective reputation of several entites all named "British Airway".

But then I must admit to having no qualifications in English and have to resort to believing pedantic entities like the APS in attempting to write the correct English!
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 16:55
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As an aside, there's no such thing as "correct" English, beyond that which is generally accepted by those who use it. Pressure groups such as the APS can try to convince us all we should write "British Airways's" in this context, but most of us would look at that and think "nonsense". Therefore it is the prevailing view that is correct, not them. That may of course change in the future.

English is an organic language and no-one - NO-ONE - can tell you hard and fast rules, we have no equivalent of the Academie Francaise, and the OED merely monitor style and use, they do not prescribe or proscribe. Many of them are in any case utterly preposterous, Latin grammar grafted on to a Germanic language. The perfect example is when you are told not to split infinitives. The only reason for this so-called rule is because you can't split infinitives in Latin. In English you can; end of story. I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying you can.

Anyway, moving on....
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 17:11
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Latin grammar grafted on to a Germanic language
Don't you mean Romance vocabulary grafted on to a Germanic language?

Out of interest, there are appx 600m speakers of Germanic languages and 800 million Romance, with 70% of the latter being outside Europe.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 17:13
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Not in the context of that sentence which refers to grammar rules, Joao - but you're correct nonetheless.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 17:15
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In which case, Papillon, where are the declensions in English? (Or Romance langauges)

Perhaps you ean 'vulgar Latin?"
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 17:18
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That's precisely my point, Joao - that self-appointed rulemakers decided to graft Latin grammar rules on to a language which is not Latin based. And it doesn't work, any more than making French run by Anglo-Saxon language structures. You've highlighted the idiocy of it perfectly.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 17:19
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Baggers, I was educated to love, honour and obey the Oxford 'zed', but am now accused of 'American' spelling when I write words like legitimize.

No amount of explanation will persuade some Brit colleagues that it is correct when the word comes from a Greek root. I will accept that using an 's' is also correct in English.

I would never spell analyse with a 'z.'
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 17:21
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Maybe we are talking at cross purposes here, I was commenting on the difference between classic and vulgar latin.

Have a good evening.
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