BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions
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Unite also announces it is seeking legal advice on legality of BA's move to deny pay to strike breakers beyond strike dates and its plans to define crew who are sick as strikers, so withdrawing their travel assistance too.
It's cheap tickets given as a perk of the job. If the commuters that have lost it through trying to damage the company have to take a big hit, then they can quit or move - the company will be better off without them anyway.
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BBC TV abandoned any pretence of impartiality (or accuracy of reporting) this morning when some self-appointed 'consultant' on industrial relations was allowed to spout an undiluted union line on how WW was creating another Wapping to destroy the union - and with it the airline. Apparently it was completely without precedent in the history of industrial relations for an employer to withdraw an offer.
OK - I know it was 7.15 am after the clocks had gone forward but cannot BA do more to ensure a more balanced view is presented to the nation?
OK - I know it was 7.15 am after the clocks had gone forward but cannot BA do more to ensure a more balanced view is presented to the nation?
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What IA?
Sat in T5 Concorde Lounge waiting to go to SFO and I can say all looks absoloutely normal. Flight is showing as being on time and I am looking forward to congratulating those CC and volunteers who will be delivering the service today.
From what I can see this IA is not well supported and as each new strike is announced the airline appears better able to handle the impact with minimal service impact. Could be a longhaul for BASSA who have completely mis-read the public mood on this.
From what I can see this IA is not well supported and as each new strike is announced the airline appears better able to handle the impact with minimal service impact. Could be a longhaul for BASSA who have completely mis-read the public mood on this.
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BBC TV abandoned any pretence of impartiality (or accuracy of reporting) this morning...
In the news reports I have heard (I tend to listen to Radio 4 rather than watch TV news) both sides have been allowed to present their case and have been robustly challenged by the interviewer. Which is exactly as it should be.
Incidentally, earlier this morning it was reported that David Cameron criticised Gordon Brown for not supporting those cabin crew who choose to break the strike... yet Cameron then refused to take sides himself. Politicians, eh?
BBC TV
Are you really suggesting that BBC is taking sides in this dispute - and is on the side of the union and strikers?
Sadly, the lack of rigorous questioning of some union spokespersons has demonstrated that too many TV reporters have not bothered to do their homework on this dispute. Has anyone seem any comment on the fact that this dispute has so little support from the rest of the staff - or any focus on BASSA rather than Unite?
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Sadly, the lack of rigorous questioning of some union spokespersons has demonstrated that too many TV reporters have not bothered to do their homework on this dispute. Has anyone seem any comment on the fact that this dispute has so little support from the rest of the staff - or any focus on BASSA rather than Unite?
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Oh..... The Beeb let s an anonymous CC member confirm she's only on 11.000 basic a year and doesn't get paid when she doesn't fly or even when she's sick....
With the kind of money rolling into this state institution, you'd expect them to check facts before broadcasting.
With the kind of money rolling into this state institution, you'd expect them to check facts before broadcasting.
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I wish the BBC would go on strike.
Doubt they will, though they must be fed up with the BA strike, being one of BA's largest corporate customers. (Yes, piggies do fly!)
Doubt they will, though they must be fed up with the BA strike, being one of BA's largest corporate customers. (Yes, piggies do fly!)
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I just formally complained to the BBC about the above (first time I ever did). More people should do this. It is just not fair to anyone to allow any spin from either side.
Especially in a conflict like this, the BBC should be aware of the spin and refuse to collaborate by checking any fact and refusing to broadcast anything that cannot be verified.
More people should complain to the media about this, it s the only way to help a rapid resolution for us mere mortals.
Especially in a conflict like this, the BBC should be aware of the spin and refuse to collaborate by checking any fact and refusing to broadcast anything that cannot be verified.
More people should complain to the media about this, it s the only way to help a rapid resolution for us mere mortals.
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Thats right, being a foreigner I do not pay for the license.
But does that matter? The broadcasting of spin, especially if it could be mainly one sided could well extend the length of the conflict. If I was loosing, I'd use spin....
Does the general public or do the CC want extended damage of is it time to look for damage limitation by ending this strike asap so that the wounds can start to heal?
Sorry for being rich....
But does that matter? The broadcasting of spin, especially if it could be mainly one sided could well extend the length of the conflict. If I was loosing, I'd use spin....
Does the general public or do the CC want extended damage of is it time to look for damage limitation by ending this strike asap so that the wounds can start to heal?
Sorry for being rich....
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And one day believe it or not everyone will be back together.Pilots flying the jet,Cabin Crew serving our customers.But,just imagine the team spirit,the CRM!!.This is the real damage that has been done.
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"Pilots flying the jet,Cabin Crew serving our customers.But,just imagine the team spirit,the CRM!!"
Surely Miamimike this is exactly what is happening now. My daughter, who was a pax on the first flight to Milan this morning, texted me to say: "Cabin crew v jolly and friendly btw" Sounds like an excellent basis for enhanced CRM to me.
Are the boys and girls at the BFC refusing to work simply removing themselves from BA and becoming more and more irrelevant by the day?
Surely Miamimike this is exactly what is happening now. My daughter, who was a pax on the first flight to Milan this morning, texted me to say: "Cabin crew v jolly and friendly btw" Sounds like an excellent basis for enhanced CRM to me.
Are the boys and girls at the BFC refusing to work simply removing themselves from BA and becoming more and more irrelevant by the day?
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In a word, Yes 
The strike has already seriously damaged Unite and BASSA in that, with all the numbers their members represent, they could not shut down BA. Of course the airline has been negatively affected, but every day that BA is able to maintain at least 50% of flights is a win for the airline.
The only way this was going to work for BASSA was if they could deal a crushing blow to BA's operations. So far that simply hasn't been done.
Are the boys and girls at the BFC refusing to work simply removing themselves from BA and becoming more and more irrelevant by the day?
The strike has already seriously damaged Unite and BASSA in that, with all the numbers their members represent, they could not shut down BA. Of course the airline has been negatively affected, but every day that BA is able to maintain at least 50% of flights is a win for the airline.
The only way this was going to work for BASSA was if they could deal a crushing blow to BA's operations. So far that simply hasn't been done.
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Time to say Goodbye
The link to Time to say goodbye, I found it so sad....you know you never know how good you have it until it is no longer there!
Coming back from Windsor yesterday I came across the Unite double decker bus on a very busy roundabout....whilst there was much shouting and banner waving coming from the top of the open bus, I noticed that all around them people watched silently, no cheers for them, no encouraging
car horns, just silence, other than their shouting!!!!
All very sad !!!!!!
Coming back from Windsor yesterday I came across the Unite double decker bus on a very busy roundabout....whilst there was much shouting and banner waving coming from the top of the open bus, I noticed that all around them people watched silently, no cheers for them, no encouraging
car horns, just silence, other than their shouting!!!!
All very sad !!!!!!
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Im sure Stoic the situation you describe is true.Im sure theres a bit of a bravado/pioneering spirit in the air.Whatever the outcome,whoever "wins",inevitably the operation will be back....the difference being,striking crew non striking crew and the pilot community all back together.
My experience is that teamwork,mutual respect particularly between the Cabin Crew and yourselves are absolutely fundamental to the success of the brand and the company.This will be the legacy of this dispute.
My experience is that teamwork,mutual respect particularly between the Cabin Crew and yourselves are absolutely fundamental to the success of the brand and the company.This will be the legacy of this dispute.
