BA Cabin Crew Strike Threats (Merged)
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License to fly ... how wrong you are.
No one can change your views. I'd say the awverage wage at BA is round £20-22,000. No where near what has been said in the media. You will all believe what you will, but striking is not an action anyone wants to take. Nor is accepting the proposals Willy Walsh has. Sure everyone would be happy if Willy just went back to the table and negotiated. Unfortunately that word is not in his dictionary. Still we live in hope of a solution.
No one can change your views. I'd say the awverage wage at BA is round £20-22,000. No where near what has been said in the media. You will all believe what you will, but striking is not an action anyone wants to take. Nor is accepting the proposals Willy Walsh has. Sure everyone would be happy if Willy just went back to the table and negotiated. Unfortunately that word is not in his dictionary. Still we live in hope of a solution.
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Well here's a ******* surprise...
Customers who are booked to travel between 22 December 2009 and 2 January 2010 and for 48 hours on either side of those dates who would like to take their flight at a different time can change to another BA flight departing in the next twelve months at no charge.
If a customer’s flight is actually cancelled because of industrial action, we will offer them the option to refund their ticket, rebook on to a different flight or reroute their journey on another BA flight.
If a customer’s flight is actually cancelled because of industrial action, we will offer them the option to refund their ticket, rebook on to a different flight or reroute their journey on another BA flight.
So what are we SLF supposed to do? Book another airline and if the strike is called off get NO refund from BA or sweat it out and find ourselves marooned from our families and children this Christmas?? ******* shambles.
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After reading this thread WHY would you be so upset with the cabin crew for standing by their union.
If BA were to change even the pilots desert BALPA would go for strike asap or better still what if they were to remove your club seat for crew rest you would all be up in arms if this was imposed right?
If BA were to change even the pilots desert BALPA would go for strike asap or better still what if they were to remove your club seat for crew rest you would all be up in arms if this was imposed right?
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Mr Angry From Purley
Overpaid, Overhyped and time for a reality check!
In what other industry would one asume that by striking, over the busiest time of the year are they, the unions, going to alienate, the BA management or the very same people they rely upon to pay their wages.
BA, more than most have had it good for too long, welcome to life outside that bubble of "the worlds favourite airline", you were not then, you certainly are not now and I like many will vote with my feet and shall in the future choose an airline that actually values their patrons/ guests!
Another disgruntled person who had a vacation booked during this period with BA, your a disgrace
In what other industry would one asume that by striking, over the busiest time of the year are they, the unions, going to alienate, the BA management or the very same people they rely upon to pay their wages.
BA, more than most have had it good for too long, welcome to life outside that bubble of "the worlds favourite airline", you were not then, you certainly are not now and I like many will vote with my feet and shall in the future choose an airline that actually values their patrons/ guests!
Another disgruntled person who had a vacation booked during this period with BA, your a disgrace
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BA pilots voted for strike when BA introduced reduced Ts&Cs for new joiners that were below market rate for longhaul pilots, incidentally after months of active negotiation, and around the time the company was announcing record breaking profits.
BA CC have voted to strike over reduced Ts&Cs for new joiners that are still significantly above market rate, having failed to enter any meaningful negotiations and have done so in the worse recession since the 1930s, while the company is on the brink.
BA Pilots vote for a strike over reduced terms and conditions for new joiners on lesser terms and conditions and it's a good thing.
BA Cabin Crew vote for a strike over reduced terms and conditions for new joiners and it's a bad thing?
BA Cabin Crew vote for a strike over reduced terms and conditions for new joiners and it's a bad thing?
BA CC have voted to strike over reduced Ts&Cs for new joiners that are still significantly above market rate, having failed to enter any meaningful negotiations and have done so in the worse recession since the 1930s, while the company is on the brink.
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Xmas has come early for WW. Three out of touch socialist crony unionists dragging the CC (who get paid twice as much for half the work) through this process will be suicide for Bassa.
Bassa don't have a leg to stand on since they threw LGW to the wolves all those years ago. BA will find a legal block within hours, nullify the old contracts and get full support from shareholders and general public to do so after such a cynical threat from out of touch Unite hasbeens.
Crazy.........
Bassa don't have a leg to stand on since they threw LGW to the wolves all those years ago. BA will find a legal block within hours, nullify the old contracts and get full support from shareholders and general public to do so after such a cynical threat from out of touch Unite hasbeens.
Crazy.........
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Well quite Frankly maybe there needs to be give from both side's. What the CC are doing over xmas is unthinkable - peaople will not be able to get home to see their families - that is not on at all! A also sincerely believe that WW seems so set his ways that he too refuses to budge and negotiate and now its a lets score points off each other - something akin to children in a playground! Surely bit of give and take on both sides needs to happen? Personally if the CC are striking to protect new CC joining the airline, then get real it doesnt adversly affect you T&C's change lolok at all the companies out there pulling their final salary schemes to new joiners- its an unfortunate turn of events but has to happen to see the comapnies through - if it doesnt afffect you negatively and means that BA can turn its fortunes around why not accept what WW is proposing - and if CC and the pilots etc really think he's that bad then maybe the entire staff should announce a vote of no confidence in WW and maybe the shareholders will get rid of him for someone better able to run BA and turn into once again into a Great British Icon!
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matey u are talking from somewhere you are sitting on
I know what an arse is and it's BA.
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BA Madness
Let me get this straight-BA losing £1.5M per day.
BA Gatwick are ALREADY on the new terms.
Im returning from AUH full fare Biz on Dec 23.
Im an airline pilot,not an economist.
I think BA will go bust if they follow through on this.
IC
BA Gatwick are ALREADY on the new terms.
Im returning from AUH full fare Biz on Dec 23.
Im an airline pilot,not an economist.
I think BA will go bust if they follow through on this.
IC
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Mr Brown??
GB cannot afford to be bailing out this lot again in their lifetime, besides Labour cannot be seen to be doing what the Tories have already done.
...Sink or Swim, neither the public purse not public mindset will want to back anything short of close shop and start again... Methinks BOAC 2010 has a nice touch about it
...Sink or Swim, neither the public purse not public mindset will want to back anything short of close shop and start again... Methinks BOAC 2010 has a nice touch about it
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I totally disagree Chips, how much ****e did GB and Co take for bailing out the banks? To bail out an airline would be a suicide move with a general elction around the corner.
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I'm afraid Lexxity is correct.
I can empathise with BA staff but they are in a better position than thousands of people who have lost their jobs, homes, etc this year. Why cant they just look upon the situation with a pinch of reality. Alright its not ideal but what is at the moment and please...surely no-one gets into the CC game for the money?
BL
I can empathise with BA staff but they are in a better position than thousands of people who have lost their jobs, homes, etc this year. Why cant they just look upon the situation with a pinch of reality. Alright its not ideal but what is at the moment and please...surely no-one gets into the CC game for the money?
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As part of the 33% of BA cabin crew who did vote " no" or who are not union members ,I do feel very sad about the way things have unfolded.I am very sad for the passengers whose holiday plans may be destroyed and for the reputation of the company for which I am proud to work .
Having joined BA in the last couple of years ,on the new style contract,you may find it hard to believe ,but a fair number of us do actually take home significantly less than crew working for ,say Easy Jet.Please don't put all BA c/c in the same boat ,we're not all up for striking,and we don't all earn significant salaries!!!
Having joined BA in the last couple of years ,on the new style contract,you may find it hard to believe ,but a fair number of us do actually take home significantly less than crew working for ,say Easy Jet.Please don't put all BA c/c in the same boat ,we're not all up for striking,and we don't all earn significant salaries!!!
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WW will win, no question. The members of Bassa (Unite) have been using restrictive practices for years & at long last they have come up against a CEO who has said ENOUGH!
I've already received confirmation that my flight to CPT WILL operate on 23 Dec. The majority of CC have woken up & smelt the coffee. If you don't beleive me, take a look at the Cabin Crew forum.
I've already received confirmation that my flight to CPT WILL operate on 23 Dec. The majority of CC have woken up & smelt the coffee. If you don't beleive me, take a look at the Cabin Crew forum.
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pinkaroo/Bassa rep/whoever
Long time no see! Resurrected no doubt due to todays events and the lack of the other 'regular' BASSA reps/hawks who monitor and reply on this forum
But the Cabin Crew are NOT striking over reduced terms and conditions, they are striking over imposition of non-contractural changes. they are not striking over New Fleet, they can't legally as it does not exist yet.
At least get your facts straight!
Long time no see! Resurrected no doubt due to todays events and the lack of the other 'regular' BASSA reps/hawks who monitor and reply on this forum
BA Pilots vote for a strike over reduced terms and conditions for new joiners on lesser terms and conditions and it's a good thing.
BA Cabin Crew vote for a strike over reduced terms and conditions for new joiners and it's a bad thing?
BA Cabin Crew vote for a strike over reduced terms and conditions for new joiners and it's a bad thing?
At least get your facts straight!