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Old 21st Dec 2009, 21:05
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There are Airbus A380 aircraft on order to replace the 747's.
BA claimed these aircraft would start flying in 2010 to S Africa, Singapore, Hong Kong and the USA in their colours.

Aint going to happen, not in 2010, and probably never.
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Old 21st Dec 2009, 22:06
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Tango Tango Bravo

Greetings too!

Yes safety is the main concern whenever I fly. I dont see loco airlines being substandard in safety. I dont see any concerns with BA flight safety. I do see Aeroflot doing some dodgy stuff with safety but Russia is Russia.

The problem I have with BA is in stark difference to Virgin. With Virgin they welcome even an economy fare whereas BA appear to do their damndest to let you know that unless you travel business class you are going to be treated pretty poorly. Its a percptive difference for sure but along with the nightmare that LHR is, it means that I wont use BA unless I have to. Its got that bad that I will source flights via Amsterdam rather than face BA and LHR.
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 06:31
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BA claimed these aircraft would start flying in 2010 to S Africa, Singapore, Hong Kong and the USA in their colours.
It might be a bit academic in the circumstances but as far as I'm aware the first planned delivery date for the BA A380's has never been '10, it's always been 2012, and there has yet to be any announcement as to which route these aircraft will be deployed on.
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... as far as I'm aware the first planned delivery date for the BA A380's has never been '10, it's always been 2012, and there has yet to be any announcement as to which route these aircraft will be deployed on.
Correct. There were rumours that delivery had been put back because of the recession, but we are being told to expect delivery of the first A380's in 2012 and further A380's and Boeing Dreamliners up to 2016.

There have been no announcements regarding the routes on which they are to be deployed, but the Bangkok.Sydney Singapore/Sydney run is widely speculated owing to the fact that those flights are rammed full for about 360 days of the year! Other long haul routes where we fly twice (or more) a day may also be targets for a once daily A380 service, freeing up a valuable slot or two for new routes and allowing us to grow. (That's Bealine's viewpoint based reading loads of stuff on the A380 and for what purpose they have been designed and how the concept has been sold to airline customers!)
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"as far as I'm aware the first planned delivery date for the BA A380's has never been '10, it's always been 2012, and there has yet to be any announcement as to which route these aircraft will be deployed on."
BA issued a press release - widely reported and easy to google - in September 2007 on 2010 receipt of first A380s and expected routes -maybe the PR department got a bit carried away or was it a Virgin spoiler? I seem to recall BA telling the world that IFE would be available in all seats long-haul to compete with Virgin - probably about 5 times over 10 years before it actually happened.
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The press release didn't give any delivery date - the aviation press speculated 2010 based on Airbus' ability to deliver.

As we all know, the delivery of the first Airbus slipped and slipped so the press speculation was a bit wide of the mark!

British Airways to buy 12 Airbus A380 aircraft for long haul fleet
27 September 2007

British Airways will buy 12 Airbus A380 aircraft as part of the airlines’ long term fleet modernisation. The announcement marks the first time British Airways has selected to introduce Airbus aircraft for the company’s long haul fleet. The decision vindicates Airbus’ product strategy. The A380 is a key part of the solution for sustainable growth and eco efficiency in air transportation.

The aircraft will be powered by Rolls-Royce engines.

“The Airbus A380 will provide a great solution for our high density markets and get the most out of scarce London Heathrow slots. We said that environmental considerations would feature highly in our choice and our decision to buy these aircraft is consistent with this”, said Willie Walsh, British Airways Chief Executive.

“British Airways’ decision is another breakthrough for our flagship Airbus A380. After an intensive year-long competitive evaluation British Airways’ choice is proof our product is the right aircraft to tackle growth, airport capacity constraints as well as environmental concerns. We are delighted British Airways will be flying Airbus aircraft for the first time on their long haul routes”, said Tom Enders, Airbus CEO.

Being greener, cleaner, quieter and smarter, the A380 is already setting new standards for transport and the environment. The aircraft is the most fuel efficient aircraft flying today. The combination of extra passenger capacity without increasing the number of flights, excellent environmental performance and lower operating costs is an ideal solution for the airports and the airlines that serve them.

For passengers, the A380 offers wider, more comfortable seats in all classes and the quietest cabins in the sky. Its unique double-deck wide body architecture also gives airlines flexibility to economically offer improved comfort standards without reducing fleet capacity. To current standards for larger premium class products, the A380 can typically carry 525 passengers in three classes in unprecedented comfort on flights of over 8000 nm (15 000km).

British Airways first became an Airbus operator in 1988, when it began flying A320s. The airline added the A319s to its fleet in 1999 and the A321 in 2004. British Airways currently operate a total of 68 A320 family aircraft.
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 17:41
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A product to be proud of

This will probably be a once only posting for me, but i feel that i have to say something on here.

FIRST OF ALL i am a passenger and one that is pleased to say i enjoy the quality of service i receive from BA CabinCrew. as a disabled passenger i know i put extra work on all staff from check-in to leaving the plane, but if it was not for you guys up in the air i feel that everything else would be kind of just by the way. you do a fantastic job and i depend on that.

what i don't want to see is the loss of that enthusiam. i know the likelihood of strike action over the past months has put immense pressure on you all but i would like to see that dispensed with, not what i consider to a valued airline.

as a passenger, yes some of us have a choice who we fly with others don't. i fall into the latter with my upcoming holiday plans. just to let you know i am travelling with NCL (Norwegian Cruise Lines) on a european cruise (Med) which is costing over £4000. the threat of a strike jeopodises that holiday. i am like many others and cannot stand to loose that amount of money through the actions of what i have been reading on here to be a misguided group (BASSA).

surely any strike action would result in BA having to compensate NCL for failing to provide a service under their partnership, so not only would BA lose customers but also good business partners. I mean a cruise company like NCL must surely fly thousands of passengers on BA flights.

so loss of customers, loss of business partnerships, loss of confidence = loss of revenue leading to loss of wages leading to loss of staff leading to LOSS OF AIRLINE

i do not want to see the loss of BA but if an airline is making a loss every minute it operates surely the best action a union can take is NOT strike action
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Old 31st Jan 2010, 03:41
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BA CC strike

A question if I may. If the BA Cabin Crew go on strike in March will it affect the entire BA operation or primarily flights out of Heathrow only. The reason I ask is because I am booked on BA from Gatwick to Venice and return in early March. Thanks.
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Old 31st Jan 2010, 03:57
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The problem surely is that, the BA management as a whole plus some, not all of the Staff in all departments, still think they are God's gift to aviation, they are not!!!!
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