Ryanair Charge for toilet use
Joined: May 2007
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From: Ireland
MOL desperate for money after his F**K ups!
What a Jackal and Hyde one week he wants to SAVE Aerlingus because it our beloved flag carrier. He came over all father like and said he would even accept the union and current contracts.
He even said he would give Aerlingus 35 bran spanking new aircraft that were due to be delivered to Ryanair. Such a noble act of kindness to slow Ryanairs growth and expansion and help out Aerlingus. (reading between the lines does he need to offload new aircraft from his order that badly?) May be MOL FU**ED up in a the same way he did with his fuel hedging program. He hedged fuel at a ridiculous price and was locked into the high price for months after the other airlines were paying the reduced rates.
Then he turns from this caring father figure and his personality does a 180 degree spin and think up a crazy method of screwing people for more money.
If this is not a publicity stunt and he intends on going ahead with this charge I think it screams of desperation. He F**K*D up on his fuel hedging plan and locked in a ridiculously high price for fuel when other airlines were playing a much lower rate (arrogance, because he knew best) He obviously needs to claw back money in any way he can to try and make up for his F**K up over fuel.
He even said he would give Aerlingus 35 bran spanking new aircraft that were due to be delivered to Ryanair. Such a noble act of kindness to slow Ryanairs growth and expansion and help out Aerlingus. (reading between the lines does he need to offload new aircraft from his order that badly?) May be MOL FU**ED up in a the same way he did with his fuel hedging program. He hedged fuel at a ridiculous price and was locked into the high price for months after the other airlines were paying the reduced rates.
Then he turns from this caring father figure and his personality does a 180 degree spin and think up a crazy method of screwing people for more money.
If this is not a publicity stunt and he intends on going ahead with this charge I think it screams of desperation. He F**K*D up on his fuel hedging plan and locked in a ridiculously high price for fuel when other airlines were playing a much lower rate (arrogance, because he knew best) He obviously needs to claw back money in any way he can to try and make up for his F**K up over fuel.
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: London
I'm with MOL on this one. A washroom takes up space that could be used for 2 more seats. And there's also a cost associated with cleaning and equipping them. Of course the pax should pay. And how is it discriminatory? Everyone has to pay - or are you suggesting people with medical/special needs have no access to money? Most people can manage a short haul flight without using a washroom. If you can't - get your quid out. And if you don't like it use a full-service airline and pay hundreds of pounds to use the washroom for free. Get over it.
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Essex
Surely if you don't want to pay for the use of a toilet, food onboard, baggage, checkin etc etc etc...Then don't fly with the airline. I used Ryanair once and never again. Until people vote with their feet things won't change.
Yes it was cheap, yes it got us to and from where we wanted to go on time, but on both sectors they had run out of food [and I was prepared to hand over my €4 as was starving!], the plane was disgustingly dirty [they could at least have picked up some of the rubbish on and under the seats, but then I guess that would take time] and I was rather surprised to see one of the cabin crew just walk into the flight deck in cruise with no curtain / anything [do other airlines do this?! I know we don't....].
All in all, yes it was cheap, yes it got us where we were going on time [you can't forget this due to the horrid fanfare PA played after landing] but would I fly them again? Probably only if nobody else flew near where I was going.
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Exit stage right.
I wonder do they have a sweep each time he agrees to go on TV and make a statement knowing full well it will never happen.
Idiots will salivate at the idea that it might and scream blue murder and Ryanair gets lots of free publicity.
MOL seems to catch bigger bigger fish each time he goes on TV.
Idiots will salivate at the idea that it might and scream blue murder and Ryanair gets lots of free publicity.
MOL seems to catch bigger bigger fish each time he goes on TV.
Joined: Jan 2003
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From: Northampton
I flew Ryanair last week as they were the only airline flying to my destination
I have plenty of times...
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: U.K
To most passengers (me included) the flight is just a way of getting away to your holiday destination, all that is needed is a seat on a safe aircraft, you're on and off in two or three hours and its a minor part of the holiday, that's why a vast number of people will continue to fly with Ryanair, people just want to get to their destination the cheapest possible way (even if you were to add a couple of quid each way for the dunny) that's what you get with Ryanair, M.O.L is giving people what they want, passenger numbers don't lie.
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Newcastle NI
I think i will have to amend my welcome aboard pre-amble today to let our guest (punters in Ryanair terms) know that the toilets are freely available at any time the seat belt sign is off.
I have seen too many big empires fail over the years to believe that somehow Ryanair can walk on water
Exxon
MGM (Maxwell)
RBS
HBOS
Woolworths
Sebena
Signet
I have seen too many big empires fail over the years to believe that somehow Ryanair can walk on water
Exxon
MGM (Maxwell)
RBS
HBOS
Woolworths
Sebena
Signet
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: oxford
When reading about this alleged possibility of charging to use toilets on board aircraft, two thoughts come to mind. The first is now would seem a good time to approach the accused company with my adult nappy idea. The second is, apart from sacraficing all human dignity, what would be to stop all passengers simply choosing to pull down their slacks and curl out a slippery otter onto the floor of the aircraft? I'm sure we could find 170 odd passengers willing to take up this protest.
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Durham/UK
Wow - those cabins are certainly going to be 'aromatic' towards the end of the flight with people nipping the cheeks of their ar$e$ and squeaking out the odd blast rather than forfeit a 1 Euro 'relief charge'.
Seriously though, there are health and welfare issues and although I am unsure as to any specific legislation in relation to the provision of free suitable facilities for the performing of ones ablutions on an aircraft, I suspect that this action would be unenforceable - although MOL appears to be a law unto himself anyway.
Having never flown with this lot, I am assuming there are still free sick bags, therefore I would like to suggest that these could be utilised into a personal 'urinal' with the 'finished article' left under the seat for future disposal.
Sorry that this post is somewhat lavatorial, but as MOL seems to be taking the p**s, I though I would redress the balance by suggesting a way of leaving it!
Seriously though, there are health and welfare issues and although I am unsure as to any specific legislation in relation to the provision of free suitable facilities for the performing of ones ablutions on an aircraft, I suspect that this action would be unenforceable - although MOL appears to be a law unto himself anyway.
Having never flown with this lot, I am assuming there are still free sick bags, therefore I would like to suggest that these could be utilised into a personal 'urinal' with the 'finished article' left under the seat for future disposal.
Sorry that this post is somewhat lavatorial, but as MOL seems to be taking the p**s, I though I would redress the balance by suggesting a way of leaving it!
Joined: Dec 2008
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From: Up in the sky...
This is a great way to get pax flying with other airlines! Thanks MOL 
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Nobody with any sense would fly with Ryanair if you have to pay for a wee. This will backfire on MOL, as he watches pax numbers fall away. Is he too blinded by the obvious?
.Nobody with any sense would fly with Ryanair if you have to pay for a wee. This will backfire on MOL, as he watches pax numbers fall away. Is he too blinded by the obvious?
Joined: Nov 2004
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From: UK
Message to MOL
Never flown with your mob but it does sound fun. Put human beings in inhuman conditions, make them pay for it and laugh all the way to an insolvent bank. I wish I had thought of that. But, I do have some more ideas for you to make money. On your aircraft I assume you supply air for passengers. Now why don't you have a slot for passengers to put a coin in above their heads so they can have the extra air blowing on them. You could require pilots to have as a priority a hot cabin so that passengers will only be too happy to pay for that nice cool air. In the summer in most places your mob go to you could require pilots turn off the air-con so passengers will immediately put money in. Have the occasional delay and bingo, you are quids in, or Euros in or whatever. Even better why not have credit card slots so passengers pay for the air and get charged an extra sum for using the credit card?
I really think MOL that you and I would make a great management team, you take the p*ss and I'm full of hot air! What do you think?
I really think MOL that you and I would make a great management team, you take the p*ss and I'm full of hot air! What do you think?
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Durham/UK
Well Ryanair aircraft don't have seat back pockets so sick bags are not provided in the usual way, you may be able to request one, as to the cost
Well, how about replacing all of the fleets seats with commodes and incorporate a 'relief charge' into the cost of the ticket?
The benefits of this would be manyfold.
1) No more disturbing fellow pax when bowel or bladder relief is required.
2) The removal of the toilet cubicles would allow further rows of seats which would enhance the revenue of each sector.
3) Old copies of the Daily Mail could be used for 'wiping residual waste' which I am sure would keep the tree huggers happy.
4) Selling the generated waste to provide fertiliser furthermore enhancing the green credentials and profits of Ryanair.
5) Sell raffle tickets with the winner receiving a roll of Andrex Quilted.
No Michael, no thanks or profit share required - just my suggestions to save the planet!
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Norfolk
You really think paying an extra pound would make any diffrence?
Maybe not but added to all additional charges? Taking into account that particularly at peak times -school hols etc- their bare flight cost is same if not higher than other carriers, and I have come across this lots and lots of times, all the additional costs make their "cheap" flights actually more expensive than competitor airlines.
It's also a metter of principle, there has to be a limit to everything.
When will SLF have to pay to receive a token to insert in the appropriate slot and release seat belt buckle?
Technically very feasible......
MOL I want copyright fees if you implement this ok?
Maybe not but added to all additional charges? Taking into account that particularly at peak times -school hols etc- their bare flight cost is same if not higher than other carriers, and I have come across this lots and lots of times, all the additional costs make their "cheap" flights actually more expensive than competitor airlines.
It's also a metter of principle, there has to be a limit to everything.
When will SLF have to pay to receive a token to insert in the appropriate slot and release seat belt buckle?
Technically very feasible......
MOL I want copyright fees if you implement this ok?