Ryanair Charge for toilet use
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Why all the drama?
Surely if you don't want to pay for the use of a toilet, food onboard, baggage, checkin etc etc etc...Then don't fly with the airline. I used Ryanair once and never again. Until people vote with their feet things won't change.
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From: UK
At first he smirked and then thought he had got away with it.
Then the interviewer thought he was serious.
Personally I don't have a problem with airlines trying to save money. But this is just taking the piss...
I don't believe that these BBC muppets should be allowed to conduct interviews with business people and politicians. They are badly prepared, unable to press home a valid point and would far rather interview somebody about feeding squirrels in the Blue Peter Garden.
Then the interviewer thought he was serious.
Personally I don't have a problem with airlines trying to save money. But this is just taking the piss...
I don't believe that these BBC muppets should be allowed to conduct interviews with business people and politicians. They are badly prepared, unable to press home a valid point and would far rather interview somebody about feeding squirrels in the Blue Peter Garden.
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From: Thinking about it, give me a minute.
Yawn Yawn Yawn.. The big orange floated the idea of the easyLoo way back as far as 1995. Discussion was along the lines of; well on a flight of less than one hour surely people can 'hold' on, the question was should we remove the toilets and squeeze in more seats to generate more revenue or would we make more money by charging passengers (not crew) to use the toilet (would require a lot of dumps to make big £!). Common sense prevailed and the aircraft were left as they were with toilets but the idea never went away completely. Another consideration was that any such move would drive passengers to other carriers, it was also argued if the revenue from toilet use was calculated then it would be a better idea to just add a few pence to each ticket to achieve the same claw back.
It's all in the perception, wouldn't promote good customer service to charge for a 'comfort stop' would it? but then what do FR know/care about customer service
It's all in the perception, wouldn't promote good customer service to charge for a 'comfort stop' would it? but then what do FR know/care about customer service
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From: southwest
Hell is an aisle seat
I now avoid aisle seats because it seems the occupants of middle/window seats enjoy squeezing past when the table is down and I'm trying to enjoy my (paid) beer.
They can't resist the desire to go powder their noses, even on a one hour flight.
I support anything MOL does to discourage them.
They can't resist the desire to go powder their noses, even on a one hour flight.
I support anything MOL does to discourage them.
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From: Anderlecht
Precisely Wakeup. Which is why I have never, and will NEVER fly that joke of an airline. There are still low cost operators around that treat their clients with more respect. They will get my business. MOL is now taking a big gamble with his business plan (I don't mean the toilet issue in particular). His success will depend on how long the recession lasts. If it goes on longer than his cash reserves can support, RYR will be one of the largest airline collapses in a long time.
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From: in the south
Finals 3 Greens
"Have you got a reference to justify that statement, e.g. a professionally authored report or academic research?"
Are you serious ?
I bet you're one of those people that insist education levels are improving every year and exams aren't getting easier
"Have you got a reference to justify that statement, e.g. a professionally authored report or academic research?"
Are you serious ?
I bet you're one of those people that insist education levels are improving every year and exams aren't getting easier
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From: Europe
The potential pitfalls are very great, I would severely doubt that paying for toilet use will ever happen. Just think of alll the soiled seats because daddy tells his child just to wait a little longer.. people exposing themselves whilst peing in bottles. And the toilet is an MEL item, you cannot charge for that.
This will not fly.
This will not fly.
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From: South Africa
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From: Europe
40 years ago everyone would think it is a bad joke about non-smoking flights.
30 years ago everyone would think is is a bad joke about meal for purschase.
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year 2015 - everyone claims that charge used to be only 1 EUR when Ryanair first introduced pay toilets in 2010, now BA is charging 5 quid on shorthaul and 10 quid on longhaul...
year 2020 - now you can use your Frequent Flyer miles to pay for toilet on all OneWorld alliance flights!
30 years ago everyone would think is is a bad joke about meal for purschase.
...
year 2015 - everyone claims that charge used to be only 1 EUR when Ryanair first introduced pay toilets in 2010, now BA is charging 5 quid on shorthaul and 10 quid on longhaul...
year 2020 - now you can use your Frequent Flyer miles to pay for toilet on all OneWorld alliance flights!
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From: ingerland
That was quick to get on the news...
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090227/tod-oukoe-uk-ryanair-toilet-d987f7f.html
Well If I travel on them...I'll be doing it in the seat...
@Cargo I suppose having thought about it...It's the pretending to be cheap...then bombarding you with pay this for that...It's hard to tell until you can put 2 airlines side by side on the same route...and see what each offer...
In some cases Ryanair is £60 to poland...where as Virgin trains might be £66 From Manchester-London
I also saw LOT £1300 to Gdansk and £60 Ryanair to Krakow...
Why? I dunno
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090227/tod-oukoe-uk-ryanair-toilet-d987f7f.html
Well If I travel on them...I'll be doing it in the seat...
@Cargo I suppose having thought about it...It's the pretending to be cheap...then bombarding you with pay this for that...It's hard to tell until you can put 2 airlines side by side on the same route...and see what each offer...
In some cases Ryanair is £60 to poland...where as Virgin trains might be £66 From Manchester-London
I also saw LOT £1300 to Gdansk and £60 Ryanair to Krakow...
Why? I dunno
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From: UK
Choice of arrival methods
Shortly the Irish maniac is to introduce a Choice of Arrival Method - CAMs for short. At the beginning of the descent passengers will be asked if they wish to land with the aircarft for a £10 fee or rent a parachute and bale out at 5,000 ft for a £2 fee (£100 credit card held for return of chute)
Just think of all the fuel he will save on that last stage.
Good man for intelligent ideas MOM.
A disgrace to the whole industry - but lets face it cheap and nasty if you want to travel that way.
Just think of all the fuel he will save on that last stage.
Good man for intelligent ideas MOM.
A disgrace to the whole industry - but lets face it cheap and nasty if you want to travel that way.
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From: Where would you like me to live??
NO such thing as bad press has always been his stand point,
therefore this very thread is just playing into his hands is it not???
I mean the guys doesn't even have to do any of these hair brained ideas of his all he has to do is imply he might and he gets all the intrest he needs.
therefore this very thread is just playing into his hands is it not???
I mean the guys doesn't even have to do any of these hair brained ideas of his all he has to do is imply he might and he gets all the intrest he needs.
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From: Ireland
MOL is quite right. The vast majority of toilet visits on aircraft are totally unnecessary. Disturbing the two people outside you when you are in a window seat, traipsing up and down the aisle disrupting the passenger service, just to adjust hair or fix lipstick. The potential savings are considerable, for instance, Aircraft weight would be significantly reduced since less water would need to be carried for flushing and hand washing, less ventilation air would reduce bleed air requirement and less use of the lavatory lights would all reduce fuel burn. I understand that what is about to be proposed is £1 for no.1, £2 for no.2 and £5 for nothing at all. PTD is to be used to differentiate.
