Ryanair Charge for toilet use
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From: Leicester
Just Another Eure
Will just another pound, or Euro make the difference?
As a passenger or, rather, a potential passenger, possibly yes.
I've flown Ryanair with decreasing frequency, each time saying "Never again". It's true that they do fly to some places that other airlines can not reach and out of necessity I've succumbed in the past.
Now, however, when looking for flights, I don't even bother to look at Ryanair unless it's the very last resort.
Each new charge is a new nail in the coffin of customer loyalty, or even customer indifference.
So - will another pound really make a difference??????
Cumulatively - YES - eventually
What will be left as the Ruinair (saw that earlier - very good) passenger base will be the the dregs of passengers who, actually, I'd rather not travel alongside. These people probably don't have the intelligence to work out that Ryanair isn't cheap anymore - it just feels cheap.
As a passenger or, rather, a potential passenger, possibly yes.
I've flown Ryanair with decreasing frequency, each time saying "Never again". It's true that they do fly to some places that other airlines can not reach and out of necessity I've succumbed in the past.
Now, however, when looking for flights, I don't even bother to look at Ryanair unless it's the very last resort.
Each new charge is a new nail in the coffin of customer loyalty, or even customer indifference.
So - will another pound really make a difference??????
Cumulatively - YES - eventually
What will be left as the Ruinair (saw that earlier - very good) passenger base will be the the dregs of passengers who, actually, I'd rather not travel alongside. These people probably don't have the intelligence to work out that Ryanair isn't cheap anymore - it just feels cheap.
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From: U.K
Me and the Mrs are off to Bratislava for less than £20 each return, if anyone can find a way of doing the journey for less than that I'd like to hear about it, as to other airlines being cheaper than Ryanair, no doubt that will happen from time to time, probably because the Ryanair flight is almost sold out and all the cheap seats have gone 
anyway you'd have to be mad to fly with the budget carriers if you could get a cheaper deal elseware, if you don't shop arround you deserve to be ripped off.
as to a matter of principle, there's only one THE PRICE
anyway you'd have to be mad to fly with the budget carriers if you could get a cheaper deal elseware, if you don't shop arround you deserve to be ripped off.
as to a matter of principle, there's only one THE PRICE
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From: too hot for you!
You get what you pay for - if you want cheap nasty airlines like Ryanair then put up with the way you are treated and stop bleating. I would personally prefer to travel less often with a decent airline then frequently with 'Ryan-crapair'.
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When you get back from your trip please update us on the real cost of the flight after you've been hit by any of the extras. Did you include the credit card charge in your £20 posted?
Will you be taking your own catering with you? and how far from your actual destination will you be when Ryanair deliver you? will you still need to pay out for a long coach/taxi (or car hire) to get you to your final destination?
Fair play to you if you can really do it for £20 per head or less, you can't argue with a bargain basement fare like that.
When you get back from your trip please update us on the real cost of the flight after you've been hit by any of the extras. Did you include the credit card charge in your £20 posted?
Will you be taking your own catering with you? and how far from your actual destination will you be when Ryanair deliver you? will you still need to pay out for a long coach/taxi (or car hire) to get you to your final destination?
Fair play to you if you can really do it for £20 per head or less, you can't argue with a bargain basement fare like that.
...the thin end thereof
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From: London
Pilots aghast at Ryanair toilet charge - and it's legal -Times Online
This thread has made The Times!
This thread has made The Times!
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From: Hangar 69
I wonder when employees have to brijg their own toilet paper as the latest cost savings initiative...
Low-cost: the cancer of aviation!
Low-cost: the cancer of aviation!
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From: UK
I think we've covered all of the more obvious toilet jokes now, so could those of you that are in love with your own wit take a short break.
This is a subject that merits discussion which is why the thread remains here and not in Jet Blast: Please let's try and raise our game a little from now on...
This is a subject that merits discussion which is why the thread remains here and not in Jet Blast: Please let's try and raise our game a little from now on...
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From: London
Originally Posted by selfloading
as to a matter of principle, there's only one THE PRICE
If this is a serious suggestion by MOL - and I don't believe for a moment that it is - then it merely puts even more clear blue water between Ryanair and full-service carriers, which I think is more likely to benefit the full-service carriers than his own.
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From: London
Originally Posted by XV490
If you don't like 'em, don't use 'em. You get what you pay for.
Ryanair is good for one thing only: driving down the cost of flying on other, more courteous, more comfortable airlines. Long may other people fly with them.
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From: Essex
I've never quite understood the "you get what you pay for" argument, most recently cited a few posts above.
For the routes and dates I travel, legacy carriers are considerably more expensive than Ryanair (I know that this is not always the case; a month or so ago I spotted a Ryanair fare that was, at that time, more expensive than BA Club Europe).
For those who believe that "you get what you pay for", please explain what extra I'd receive for, say, paying twice as much to fly with a legacy carrier. I can think of at least one of the latter where, in my experience, you pay much more and get less.
For the routes and dates I travel, legacy carriers are considerably more expensive than Ryanair (I know that this is not always the case; a month or so ago I spotted a Ryanair fare that was, at that time, more expensive than BA Club Europe).
For those who believe that "you get what you pay for", please explain what extra I'd receive for, say, paying twice as much to fly with a legacy carrier. I can think of at least one of the latter where, in my experience, you pay much more and get less.
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From: Florida
I don't plan on using the toilet when I board a plane, I just use it in a emergency, like before I wet myself and my seatmate.
I certainly don't carry change in my pocket due to the extra time it takes to negotiate security (remembering that it's in my pocket). So if I really need to have the proper change in an emergency then you can expect that there is going to be a messy plane at the end of the flight.
I'm afarid that Mr O'leary has turned over the lamp again and set fire to his own house.
No amount of back peddaling will get him and his airline out of this.
I certainly don't carry change in my pocket due to the extra time it takes to negotiate security (remembering that it's in my pocket). So if I really need to have the proper change in an emergency then you can expect that there is going to be a messy plane at the end of the flight.
I'm afarid that Mr O'leary has turned over the lamp again and set fire to his own house.
No amount of back peddaling will get him and his airline out of this.
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From: uk
Why would O'learey do this for publicity if he did not really mean it? Why would he aim to escilate the hatred for his airline without good reason?
Only a fool would deliberately generate bad publicity for no good reason.
I will never fly with this foul operation, but if I did I would piss in a bottle or !!!! in a carrier bag, and then subsequently empty it on this gob!!!!e's door step.
Only a fool would deliberately generate bad publicity for no good reason.
I will never fly with this foul operation, but if I did I would piss in a bottle or !!!! in a carrier bag, and then subsequently empty it on this gob!!!!e's door step.
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From: Herts
Ryanair toilet charge.
Hi,
Some interesting posts in reply to MOL new idea yesterday. Just heard on radio 2 that his statement is all over the newspapers. Boy MOL sure knows how to get free publicity for his airline, I think MOL likes to float wild ideas and see what the reaction is like.
OH by the way toilet paper will be extra!!!!
Some interesting posts in reply to MOL new idea yesterday. Just heard on radio 2 that his statement is all over the newspapers. Boy MOL sure knows how to get free publicity for his airline, I think MOL likes to float wild ideas and see what the reaction is like.
OH by the way toilet paper will be extra!!!!
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From: Hadlow
How to get to Bratislava for less than £20
Selfloading, you provided the answer with your smiley.
Use your thumb to get as many lifts as it takes. You should be able to get across the Channel as a foot passenger for less than £20.
Use your thumb to get as many lifts as it takes. You should be able to get across the Channel as a foot passenger for less than £20.
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Once again, everyone falls for Michael O'Leary's genius for publicity.
The practical considerations (if you stop to think about it) are too many for this to work, how do you deal with £/€ other currencies in the same slot?
And the pax will simply hold the door open for the next person, just avoiding any need to insert a coin
Whilst the CAA may not have a rule against the scheme, I would be very surprised if there isn't something out there that prohibits it.
But credit to the man, he's talked Ryanair into the news again.
And to those who talk about the negative impact on the business, Ryanair pax don't care about stuff like this.
I really don't like the airline or the way it is managed, but this was a smart piece of PR.
The practical considerations (if you stop to think about it) are too many for this to work, how do you deal with £/€ other currencies in the same slot?
And the pax will simply hold the door open for the next person, just avoiding any need to insert a coin
Whilst the CAA may not have a rule against the scheme, I would be very surprised if there isn't something out there that prohibits it.
But credit to the man, he's talked Ryanair into the news again.
And to those who talk about the negative impact on the business, Ryanair pax don't care about stuff like this.
I really don't like the airline or the way it is managed, but this was a smart piece of PR.
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From: UK
What's really disappointing about all this is that the geeks making all these statements are not the ones who have to eventually deal with the individual passenger.
The Pilots and Cabin Crew are the faces of 'EVIL' that the PAX can see and will be treated thus.
Its not just the cheek of it, it all ball's down to where do we all stop being human?
I agree with Final 3 Greens when he says that MOL has made himself a champion @ publicity by sending any sort of Panic Attack on the unsuspecting Joe Public!
I think MOL likes the sound of his own voice and loves reading about himself in the dailies.
Where does this all stop?
What relevance have crew in the decision making in Airlines these days?
It's surprising how all the decisions seem to be made by owners and lawyers and administrators regardless of the real time consequences of these out of mind constructions of imagination.
Unfortunately, since MOL and his cohorts don't have to deal with Joe Public on an individual basis, its ok to sit in a comfy office and spout any idea that comes to mind!
SAD!!
The Pilots and Cabin Crew are the faces of 'EVIL' that the PAX can see and will be treated thus.
Its not just the cheek of it, it all ball's down to where do we all stop being human?
I agree with Final 3 Greens when he says that MOL has made himself a champion @ publicity by sending any sort of Panic Attack on the unsuspecting Joe Public!
I think MOL likes the sound of his own voice and loves reading about himself in the dailies.
Where does this all stop?
What relevance have crew in the decision making in Airlines these days?
It's surprising how all the decisions seem to be made by owners and lawyers and administrators regardless of the real time consequences of these out of mind constructions of imagination.
Unfortunately, since MOL and his cohorts don't have to deal with Joe Public on an individual basis, its ok to sit in a comfy office and spout any idea that comes to mind!
SAD!!