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Shagpile 18th Jul 2011 08:58

Doesn't need to affect the data; just make it so people can comment, and other people can give thumbs up/down on it. Order by thumbs count! Also include daily fuel prices etc.

WRT carrying met/notams, I believe the AIP says along the lines of performing an accurate study of met/notams for the applicable route on preflight. Can't ever remember seeing that you actually have to carry them, although good Airmanship would dictate that you can reference it airborne, especially on longer flights if you have the room.

Regulation 139 of CAR 1988 says you need to carry:
- Certificate of registration
- Certificate of Airworthiness
- Maintenance release (unless CASA says you don't need to)
- Licences/Medicals of crew (unless CASA says you don't need to)
- Flight manual (if any)
- Any licence WRT radio equipment
- List of passenger names, dep & destination.
- If Cargo, bills of loading and manifests.
- If international, the company AOC.

NOSIGN 18th Jul 2011 10:12


That data is from AsA. You know the encode/decode-only ALAs in ERSA? We get coordinates for them too.
Baswell,

did you guys consider using the AOPA aerdrome index for airfield coordinate information? It would be useful to have these supplement ASA data.

Also, I am particularily interested in the "breadcrumb" feature but can hardly distinguish the breadcrumb colour against most of the background maps - same goes with the aeroplane symbol. Anybody else prefer to have a choice in colour & symbols?

Great APP!

ozaggie 18th Jul 2011 11:00

iPad purchase
 
Shagwell, Baspile, you are naughty boys. Now I've had to get another fecking tool to clutter up the cockpit!'

nitpicker330 19th Jul 2011 13:48

Version 2.0.1 out now.

Good updates.

Just one question please.

Custom waypoints have both a name AND an ID. Why do you need both? What's the difference between them?
When you display the custom waypoints on your map it shows both names above and below this waypoint, cluttering the display a little.
Surely I only need to see the waypoint name and I don't need to see it's ID.

Otherwise a good update.

p.s. Could you align the TAC charts so they appear straight on the page please? The MEL TAC3 chart is cocked off to the side a bit and it's annoying!!

Shagpile 19th Jul 2011 22:02

Yep you can leave the name or description blank if you wish...

Normally airports will have 2 descriptions: Code (e.g. YSSY) and name (e.g. Sydney).

nitpicker330 20th Jul 2011 11:23

Ok, after a bit more playing it appears you can only leave the name blank.
The ID will default back to User.. and you can't leave it blank.


Can you straighten out the TAC3 chart?

nitpicker330 21st Jul 2011 12:33

Hoy, Baswell or Shagpile....


Can you please straighten out the TAC 3

:ok:

Agent86 21st Jul 2011 21:41

Nitpicker,
TAC3 TAC4 TAC5 are all skewed to North up. Have a look at the physical maps. If Se E Aus was aligned N-S you could have a straight map. Do you hold maps North up or Track up?

nitpicker330 22nd Jul 2011 02:28

With that kind of map ( IFR TAC chart ) you generally hold it North up so you can read all the data off the page ( LSALT, TRK, DIST, FREQ, CTA STEPS etc etc ) You are not relating it map to ground to visually navigate ( as with a WAC chart ) so it helps if the page is straight!!

I Haven't looked at this real paper map to know what it looks like for quite a while ( I use Jepp En Rte charts for Hi Alt mostly ) but I don't remember the page and all the writing being twisted off by 20 deg?

Yes I worked out that it was North up, but surely they could fix it so the names and all the writing were straight? The whole thing is cocked off about 20 deg and I'm sure it needn't be. Zoom out to look at the whole map, it's not straight on the page. Surely an easy fix?

If you compare it to the ERC Low for Vic, I realise the scale is different but aren't they both Lambert Conformal Conic Projections? The ERC Low Vic chart is straight on the screen so I don't see why Ozrunways can't straighten out the TAC 3 as well.

Oh well, it would be nice if they at the very least responded to my question and put to bed a reason why they cannot straighten it.:{

Dangly Bits 27th Jul 2011 21:46

From the CASA newsletter.

New standards and guidance on the way for electronic flight bags

CASA is looking to develop new guidance material for pilots, as well as standards for air transport operators, on the use of portable electronic flight bags during flights. For air transport operators the standards will address the requirements for operational approvals for the use of portable electronic flight bags. The need for guidance material and standards is being driven by the rapid growth of purpose designed aviation software for electronic tablets, such as the Apple Ipad, that could enable these devices to be used as electronic flight bags. The issue has been identified at the global level with the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) having recently reconvened an electronic flight bag working group. ICAO has recognised that current standards and recommended practices, as well as guidance material, on electronic flight bags are being made obsolete by new tablet technology. CASA is playing a key role in the ICAO working group, having recently taken part in a meeting at ICAO headquarters in Montreal. The ICAO working group is aiming to have new high-level standards and recommended practices developed for electronic flight bags by mid 2012.

A number of safety issues have already been identified in relation to the widespread use of electronic flight bags. In the first instance the pace of evolving technology makes the development of new standards and guidance material a challenge. Data connectivity between portable devices and aircraft systems must also be addressed. In addition, there is a need for software assurance and operator quality control systems to manage the integrity of safety critical navigational and performance data. While electronic flight bags have obvious value in the cockpit, human factors issues must be examined. There is a risk of information overload for pilots, which can divert attention away from the fundamental tasks of flying.

Shagpile 30th Jul 2011 03:05

The Sydney TAC chart is naturally skewed 20 degrees or so off so they can fit more of the major airports into a square shape.

In order to display GPS position on the maps, we have to convert them to Mercator which makes the lat/long lines run vertical & horizontal. This will rotate and slightly stretch the map however you probably won't notice the warping as it is subtle but necessary for the gps points to line up correctly on the map. Sydney TAC is obviously the most rotated map.

We're doing track-up in an update soon so you should be able to get the best of both worlds.

Shagpile 30th Jul 2011 04:28

iPad KABOOM! A Success – iPad 2 Rapid Decompression Certification Available for Download

iPad2 passed a community funded rapid decompression testing to 51,000ft (DO-160F testing). Testing regime was:

- Stabilised at 8000ft for 2 hours
- Rapid decompression to 51,000ft in 15 seconds
- Held at altitude for 10 minutes.
- Returned to sea level

No battery venting, shards of glass etc. iPad2 continued operating the whole time! Well done Apple I'd say...marvellous piece of engineering.

Aussie Bob 30th Jul 2011 08:49


We're doing track-up in an update soon so you should be able to get the best of both worlds.
Awesome, this will be a big improvement and will probably make my trusty Garmin redundant

VH-XXX 30th Jul 2011 09:13

I seriously don't know how anyone can fly with track up! North up aids situation awareness with radio calls and the like. I thought it was women that needed track up because of the way that their brains work ;)

Shagpile 30th Jul 2011 18:55

Personally I use north-up although everybody has asked for track-up so I've gotta do it! Seems personal preference - most people probably get taught to hold (and fold) their maps track-up while they are learning to help with orientation of stuff on track.

I agree you do lose situational awareness about which way North is when doing track-up. Much easier to make radio calls etc and see that your "north-west" of some airfield.

Aussie Bob 30th Jul 2011 21:25

I was couch flying Ozrunways last night and it seemed quite unstable, it closed down several times and sometimes the page would change for no apparent reason, always happened when I touched the screen somewhere but nowhere near a button. What gives here? Anyone else got glitches?

compressor stall 31st Jul 2011 13:21

Must say after the recent update I got a couple of uncommanded shutdowns, and the DAPS tab browser was half an inch too far down the screen.

Then after a couple of days, all good again. Very odd.

Jabawocky 31st Jul 2011 22:10

Performance Tip!
 
When using OzRunways make sure you have shut down all the other programmes. Even though they are asleep in the background some, use a lot more resources than others.

To do this, "Double Click" the button and a row of open apps will appear on the bottom of the screen. Press and hold on any one of these apps and a little red circle with a - sign appears over each app icon. ap the red dot on each one and it will be closed down. Some folk I have seen have had dozens open and it seems to slow down the high resource users like mapping apps.

Cheers :ok:

Aussie Bob 31st Jul 2011 22:44

Live and learn Jabawocky, thanks for that!

I did it and found that every program I have was running. Now to see if there is a difference ...

Bevan666 1st Aug 2011 03:08


When using OzRunways make sure you have shut down all the other programmes. Even though they are asleep in the background some, use a lot more resources than others.
When your iThingie gets short of memory it signals the foreground app to reduce memory usage. If it is still short of memory it then kills background apps (starting at the biggest) until there is enough free memory. If there is still not enough memory then the foreground app is also killed.

Manually killing background apps wont make a difference - they will be killed anyway, to keep the foreground app running.

You will still see these killed background apps in the task switcher though. If you press on them a killed background app will do a full restart. Its just fooling you into thinking that they are still running.

The joys of coding on a memory constrained device...

Bevan..

compressor stall 1st Aug 2011 04:12

When's your flight planner out Bevan?

Bevan666 1st Aug 2011 05:53

Its in the queue waiting for review by apple... Version 1.0 took 3.5 weeks to pass, and by the time it was completed (which was last Thursday) the next version was ready to ship, so 1.0 is withheld from sale and 1.1 will launch in a week.. or so (entirely dependant on apple's review process)

Thanks,

Bevan..

baswell 2nd Aug 2011 07:18


When your iThingie gets short of memory it signals the foreground app to reduce memory usage. If it is still short of memory it then kills background apps (starting at the biggest) until there is enough free memory. If there is still not enough memory then the foreground app is also killed.
Going on experience, it's a bit more complicated (buggy?) than that.

You can have the app running for hours, you put it in the background, do something else, bring it back to the foreground and it crashes in seconds.

I see many resource-hungry apps do this. Although nobody can say for certain, my gut feeling is that you bring the memory hungry one to the foreground and before it's had a chance to clear the stuff from the background, iOS panics about overall system RAM usage and exits even the foreground app.

This is why we have gone out of our way in OzRunways to make sure that if you start it back up, it picks up where you left off.

Jabawocky 2nd Aug 2011 11:57


Manually killing background apps wont make a difference - they will be killed anyway, to keep the foreground app running.
Not in my experience.

With the iphone 4 when trying to use Naips, it hangs. Kill off hibernating apps manually and the Naips responds. So I am not sure the auto kill off is 100% effective.

Seen it many times now so can you explain this? I am not the only one to see the same things.

Scamp Damp 11th Sep 2011 10:48

I have just bought another ipad.

I am going to give my old ipad to my daughter and keep the 64Gb ipad2 for me.

Is there an easy way to transfer my ozrunway membership from my old ipad1 to my new ipad2? I really cant afford purchasing another copy of it?

baswell 11th Sep 2011 11:14

Scampi,

Just look at what the user ID is on the old ipad and put it into the new one, then delete OzRunways from the old one.

If it gives you an error when try to move to the new iPad*, send us a support email via the website and we'll transfer it for you.

Cheers,
Bas.

* Because we don't let people do this too often for obvious reasons. But it happens someone buys a subscription on a friend/family member's iPad, then decides to buy a new iPad a few weeks later...

Capt Claret 11th Sep 2011 12:28

Scamp, the Birthday Fairy, aka Mrs C, bought me an iPad 2 for my birthday. All I did to transfer OzRunways was restore the old (backed up) iPad data from iTunes, and then opened OzRunways and entered the relevant email I.D. in the settings. :ok:

nitpicker330 11th Sep 2011 23:59

The same as if you'd lost or broken the old one.

Plug in the new iPad, open i Tunes and it will ask you what you'd like to do, easy.

The only pain in the ass is that the apps you had on the old iPad won't arrange themselves into those nice folders you had, so you'll need to spend quite a while arranging/setting up the folders.

Keg 12th Sep 2011 00:50

Was able to try and interesting comparison a few days back.

Had my iPad 1 and my F/Os iPad 2 running concurrently with Ozrunways. The iPad 2 picked up and held the GPS signal quite easily on top of the dash. My iPad 1 never picked up the signal at all.

It appears the solution is self evident- I need to go and buy and iPad 2! :E :ok:

That said, if he put his iPad down by his side then the signal became a lot more squirrelly. I'm still going to go with option A and get a bluetooth GPS for it. I reckon that's going to be the best solution for the 767. At least that way I can leave the iPad beside me rather than having it up on the dash the whole time.

Ozgrade3 15th Sep 2011 12:53

Now keg, thats a photo I would pay many coins to see, not 1 but 2 iPads on the glareshield.

Ah grasshopper, it seems Mr QF is saving money on FMS database updates and issuing iPads instead.

Now the mention of 10nm markers on your route gave me a chuckle. next you will be asking how to do a 1:60. Remember those?

Better give you the sensar number as well,

All said in jest of course.

nitpicker330 15th Sep 2011 23:36

My i Pad 2 won't work anywhere in the 330 cockpit but the i Phone 4 works on the side window!!

Keg, which Bluetooth device are you planning to get?

VH-XXX 16th Sep 2011 00:50

I've had recent reports of an iPad 2 intermittently working in the app and causing some issues. This was whilst it was in full 3G phone coverage, operating in a Jabiru on a dash mount. I was a little surprised to hear this.

Capt Claret 16th Sep 2011 00:56

I've found the Bad-Elf GPS dongle to be very good. It allows the iPad to stay in Airplane mode but receive a better GPS signal than the inbuilt receiver gives. Bad Elf » GPS for iPad and iPod touch

nitpicker330 16th Sep 2011 02:57

Bad Elf looks good but I'd be worried it won't work unless beside a window.

With a Bluetooth one I can sit it on the window ledge for a clearer sight of the Signal.

AussieNick 16th Sep 2011 03:36

VH-XXX i lost GPS signal a couple of times during my last work trip. Was still within 3G coverage at the time. And the app crashed a few times, only when running the ERC charts though, the WACs VTCs and TAC charts were fine

Ozeflyer 16th Sep 2011 07:25

Bluetooth GPS
 
The GNS 5870 Bluetooth GPS works well. It comes with a little suction cap device allowing it to be attached to the window. Works well on the rear side window of the 744.

Just need to be careful with the on/off switch. Sometimes likes to turn itself on if left in a bag.....

OverFienD 16th Sep 2011 07:32

Yeah, I've had a few problems with the ERC's crashing the app as well... Starts straight back up to where it was, but is a bit of a pain. Doesn't seem to happen with the other charts.

baswell 16th Sep 2011 08:04

Guys, thanks for the feedback! Interesting to hear it crashes more with ERCs; no idea what that should be. We'll look at that.

We're working on the GPS too. It seems that in our efforts to not have it display bad data, we've made it too sensitive, especially with vertical accuracy. So in the next version, there will be a different warning and we won't cut out your position just because the GPS's altitude accuracy is too far off.

Thanks again for the feedback and your support!

Bas.

fatmike 25th Sep 2011 02:11

Can anyone provide advice on how to plan from A to B via multi leg track changes.

Grogmonster 25th Sep 2011 02:40

Baro Correction
 
Baswell,

Any chance of Barometric correction to the GPS altitude? I know that is cheeky but when in the flight levels it would be just too cool to be able to hit STD for 1013mb.

Groggy


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