Positive message about CASA Congratulations
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Positive message about CASA Congratulations
I recently received an email which stated:
I have always found this. In a large organisation like CASA there seems to be a group called the iron ring which make up a very small number, but they tend to stop reforms from taking place.
I bet there are some fantastic people at CASA who would love to see the Act changed so they no longer have to live a lie when it comes to the regulatory system but can look at cost and participation levels.
I recently attended the Royal Federation of Aero Clubs Australia conference, and was very, very impressed by the tone of the very senior CASA officials. I believe that they would like the industry to arc up publicly to give them the backing to effect the very necessary change.
I bet there are some fantastic people at CASA who would love to see the Act changed so they no longer have to live a lie when it comes to the regulatory system but can look at cost and participation levels.
I believe that they would like the industry to arc up publicly to give them the backing to effect the very necessary change.
Either that, or they have their heads stuck up their ar*ses so far that they can’t hear.
Contrary to the comment above, I always found over many years there was a very small nucleus of dedicated, professional, competent and capable people in DCA, CAA and CASA who would always listen and try to help. Sadly they were surrounded by a sea of incompetence and vindictive complacency.
Since the 1980s, the sea of incompetence has risen to the top, leaving that small nucleus of very professional, competent and capable people frustrated. Many have already left CASA in despair.
By the late 1990s, in general the CASA people I was forced to deal with at all levels were operationally incompetent, deficient and vindictive and who set general aviation, flight training and rural air services in Australia back decades.
Since the 1980s, the sea of incompetence has risen to the top, leaving that small nucleus of very professional, competent and capable people frustrated. Many have already left CASA in despair.
By the late 1990s, in general the CASA people I was forced to deal with at all levels were operationally incompetent, deficient and vindictive and who set general aviation, flight training and rural air services in Australia back decades.
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Pray tell who were they very senior CAsA officials that mouthed the platitudes, the motherhood statements and the usual crap we've been hearing for decades.
Were they members of the Iron Ring? Acolytes of the BS spuiker Smart Aleck.?
"Arc up" and tell them about 'necessary change' and as one who has reminded a CAsA AWI (Retski Cns) of his earlier perfidy..serious illegal behaviour that CAsA went to great lengths to paper over and get everybody off the hook.
What do you get..threat of a bashing !
I say again, CAsA is corrupted and disgusting, and some of its employees are disgusting in their lack of integrity and honesty.
What CAsA has wrought on GA is disgusting...and that pollies are so disinterested in doing anything about the rotten place, they too are disgusting in their negligence.
Until there is a Judicial Inquiry into CAsA, so the truth of CAsA's perversions and dirty doings can be put out there, as we now see in the Banking commission, then the will be NO changes to CAsA or its corrupted ways and criminal employees.
Were they members of the Iron Ring? Acolytes of the BS spuiker Smart Aleck.?
"Arc up" and tell them about 'necessary change' and as one who has reminded a CAsA AWI (Retski Cns) of his earlier perfidy..serious illegal behaviour that CAsA went to great lengths to paper over and get everybody off the hook.
What do you get..threat of a bashing !
I say again, CAsA is corrupted and disgusting, and some of its employees are disgusting in their lack of integrity and honesty.
What CAsA has wrought on GA is disgusting...and that pollies are so disinterested in doing anything about the rotten place, they too are disgusting in their negligence.
Until there is a Judicial Inquiry into CAsA, so the truth of CAsA's perversions and dirty doings can be put out there, as we now see in the Banking commission, then the will be NO changes to CAsA or its corrupted ways and criminal employees.
I don't dispute what you say aroa, but I believe there is still a very small group of competent staff who, given the recognition, legislation and competent management, could rebuild - or at least make a good start on the next permutation of our aviation regulator.
I totally support Dick's comments. 
I bet there are some fantastic people at CASA who would love to see the Act changed so they no longer have to live a lie when it comes to the regulatory system but can look at cost and participation levels.
Torres et all, You, are probably right. There are some good people in CAsA, but sadly we dont hear from them. Do they have an underground resistance movement to attempt to effect change ?
Seen any signs of that?
If we did have a 'Donald' (and Dick has tried his hardest for longest) who could drain the (non) Av House swamp and use the Rust Remover on the Iron Ring, well and good.
But as a very long term aviation participant in OZ, one hopes continually for change for the better, but over decades it only got worse. Much worse.
And it has reached the critical mess we are stuck with today.
Seen any signs of that?
If we did have a 'Donald' (and Dick has tried his hardest for longest) who could drain the (non) Av House swamp and use the Rust Remover on the Iron Ring, well and good.
But as a very long term aviation participant in OZ, one hopes continually for change for the better, but over decades it only got worse. Much worse.
And it has reached the critical mess we are stuck with today.
Aroa said - "but sadly we don't hear from them" - want to know why?
Canberra Times
August 25 2016
'Nanny state!' New crackdown on public servants' Facebook
The public service is moving further into the private lives of its workers, with the Prime Minister's department laying down tough rules for its public servants' online activities.
The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet's new rules go further than before in trying to gag comments on current affairs, but there are also instructions on how staff must manage personal Facebook profiles.
The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet is getting tough over Facebook use. Details of the policy, sent to all PM&C staff and contractors last Friday, threaten dismissal for non-compliance.
The department, which has already asked its workers to dob in colleagues for their online activities, now insists its public servants lock their personal Facebook accounts with the tightest possible privacy settings and tells them how to configure their passwords.
The Community and Public Sector Union is furious about the policy, saying it portrayed a nanny-state attitude and intruded unreasonably into public servants' private lives.
CPSU deputy secretary Melissa Donnelly said the rules were causing widespread resentment in the department.
"This new policy from the Department of [the] Prime Minister and Cabinet absolutely goes too far in policing the private lives of staff," she said.
"Our members resent this nanny state attitude from the department.
"There's a fundamental contradiction in this policy, stating that staff don't need to be apolitical in their private lives but then all but banning criticism, and it's insulting the intelligence of staff to impose rules on what password and security settings they should have for their Facebook account.
"PM&C already had a social media policy that stretched the bounds of what's reasonable and went significantly beyond the already tough rules that apply through the APS code of conduct.
"There absolutely have to be rules in place, but that shouldn't mean applying a virtual gag on staff."
The policy contains a blanket ban on PM&C staff revealing their workplace on social media, something millions of Australians do routinely, and the rules leave little doubt on online freedom of expression.
"Expressing disparaging opinions about the government, the opposition, the department or government policies, or expressing strong political affiliations in any public forum is not appropriate behaviour for [Australian Public Service] employees," the policy says.
"Your personal opinions on these issues should be confined to closed forums."
There are strict new rules on how individual employees should manage their social media accounts and PM&C employees were left in no doubt about the consequences of "failing to comply" with the policy.
"Profiles must use a robust and secure password to protect the account from brute-force hacking attempts," the policy says.
"This password must be at least seven characters long and contain a mixture of punctuation and alpha-numeric characters.
"For your security, ensure that privacy settings on your accounts are set to private and high. Facebook has developed a privacy basic tool to help you keep your account secure.
"Those who fail to comply with this policy may face disciplinary action and, in serious cases, termination of their employment or engagement."
Canberra Times
August 25 2016
'Nanny state!' New crackdown on public servants' Facebook
The public service is moving further into the private lives of its workers, with the Prime Minister's department laying down tough rules for its public servants' online activities.
The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet's new rules go further than before in trying to gag comments on current affairs, but there are also instructions on how staff must manage personal Facebook profiles.
The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet is getting tough over Facebook use. Details of the policy, sent to all PM&C staff and contractors last Friday, threaten dismissal for non-compliance.The department, which has already asked its workers to dob in colleagues for their online activities, now insists its public servants lock their personal Facebook accounts with the tightest possible privacy settings and tells them how to configure their passwords.
The Community and Public Sector Union is furious about the policy, saying it portrayed a nanny-state attitude and intruded unreasonably into public servants' private lives.
CPSU deputy secretary Melissa Donnelly said the rules were causing widespread resentment in the department.
"This new policy from the Department of [the] Prime Minister and Cabinet absolutely goes too far in policing the private lives of staff," she said.
"Our members resent this nanny state attitude from the department.
"There's a fundamental contradiction in this policy, stating that staff don't need to be apolitical in their private lives but then all but banning criticism, and it's insulting the intelligence of staff to impose rules on what password and security settings they should have for their Facebook account.
"PM&C already had a social media policy that stretched the bounds of what's reasonable and went significantly beyond the already tough rules that apply through the APS code of conduct.
"There absolutely have to be rules in place, but that shouldn't mean applying a virtual gag on staff."
The policy contains a blanket ban on PM&C staff revealing their workplace on social media, something millions of Australians do routinely, and the rules leave little doubt on online freedom of expression.
"Expressing disparaging opinions about the government, the opposition, the department or government policies, or expressing strong political affiliations in any public forum is not appropriate behaviour for [Australian Public Service] employees," the policy says.
"Your personal opinions on these issues should be confined to closed forums."
There are strict new rules on how individual employees should manage their social media accounts and PM&C employees were left in no doubt about the consequences of "failing to comply" with the policy.
"Profiles must use a robust and secure password to protect the account from brute-force hacking attempts," the policy says.
"This password must be at least seven characters long and contain a mixture of punctuation and alpha-numeric characters.
"For your security, ensure that privacy settings on your accounts are set to private and high. Facebook has developed a privacy basic tool to help you keep your account secure.
"Those who fail to comply with this policy may face disciplinary action and, in serious cases, termination of their employment or engagement."
It's pretty common these days for employers and particularly government ones to dictate employee's use of social media.
One particular low-life on this forum (I know exactly who they are) should be ashamed of themselves for effectively "dobbing" on me to my employer like a child at primary school, about my use of pprune, grossly embellishing the "facts," presumably in an attempt to somehow cause me to be reprimanded or to lose my job.
Why should they be ashamed?
Because after a comprehensive review by the department which consisted of stand-down with full pay and allowances and a dedicated resource to go through thousands of posts and a number of interviews with numerous persons, only to find ZERO evidence of anything in-appropriate.
Many thousands of taxpayer dollars were wasted on that little exercise for zero results!
One particular low-life on this forum (I know exactly who they are) should be ashamed of themselves for effectively "dobbing" on me to my employer like a child at primary school, about my use of pprune, grossly embellishing the "facts," presumably in an attempt to somehow cause me to be reprimanded or to lose my job.
Why should they be ashamed?
Because after a comprehensive review by the department which consisted of stand-down with full pay and allowances and a dedicated resource to go through thousands of posts and a number of interviews with numerous persons, only to find ZERO evidence of anything in-appropriate.
Many thousands of taxpayer dollars were wasted on that little exercise for zero results!
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I think you will find the PMs direction is more about security and less about the nanny state. Once an enemy identifies key individuals, it will target each of them separately, looking for a weakness. Observed and used this first hand, albeit in an training exercise environment
Once narcissists get control of an organisation (which they are good at, being superlative at arse licking) they immediately start pushing out competent people, who they see as a threat, and replacing them with sycophants - carbon copies of themselves. The tell tale behaviour is always sucking up to senior people while treating subordinates like ****.
The process starts at CEO level and the sycophants push down through the management structure, removing threats as they go. It is only very intelligent and smart employees who can survive - they need to be able to adopt camouflage and hide their abilities or they will be targeted.
I once watched a very competent chief of staff to a Managing Director get fired - her crime was publicly correcting one of her bosses many mistakes.
The process starts at CEO level and the sycophants push down through the management structure, removing threats as they go. It is only very intelligent and smart employees who can survive - they need to be able to adopt camouflage and hide their abilities or they will be targeted.
I once watched a very competent chief of staff to a Managing Director get fired - her crime was publicly correcting one of her bosses many mistakes.
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Without evidence to support the theory of some CAsA functionary's being good guy's, they remain, in most minds, the same as "Banks" for collective damnation.
Occam's Razor may thin them out a bit. However by naming the good, it guarantees the end of their careers.
Occam's Razor may thin them out a bit. However by naming the good, it guarantees the end of their careers.
----by naming the good, it guarantees the end of their careers.
Too true, look what happened to Leroy Keith when he actually started making changes at CASA, changes widely supported by almost all (non-union) levels of the aviation community.
The iron ring "got" him.
Tootle pip!!
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I once watched a very competent chief of staff to a Managing Director get fired - her crime was publicly correcting one of her bosses many mistakes.
Did you say/do anything to assist the CoS at the time?
LK is the bloke rumored to have instructed FOIs not to engage with the aviation community outside of official dealings, e.g, attending social functions on airfields organised by the aviation community.
That is about when the rot set in.
That is about when the rot set in.
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A few weeks back I completed the CASA online how are we doing survey and the highest score i could give was 3 out of 10.
I would suggest CASA WEST requires 90% of their staff retrained or moved on to greener pastures.
Hopefully other states are fairing better.
I would suggest CASA WEST requires 90% of their staff retrained or moved on to greener pastures.
Hopefully other states are fairing better.
Sunfish; A genuine question, with nothing implied;
Did you say/do anything to assist the CoS at the time?
Did you say/do anything to assist the CoS at the time?
She did get a massive payout though. The stupid bastard of an MD made the mistake of ringing her former employer to try and get dirt on her as a way of levering her out. Former employer ( great guy, known to me) immediately rang her and offered to testify as a witness on her behalf if she sued the Institution for attempted blackmail.
So, after all this...could the good person who emailed Dick please tell us....
1. Who were these ' very senior CAsA officials, at the RFACA conference ?,
and...
2 What were the 'very, very impressive statements' that these officials made ?
If we could be so advised, perhaps we could run a 'pub test'.
And we the other Av-citizens could make our own assessments.
Do they smell like rose water...or sewerage. We dont yet know.
1. Who were these ' very senior CAsA officials, at the RFACA conference ?,
and...
2 What were the 'very, very impressive statements' that these officials made ?
If we could be so advised, perhaps we could run a 'pub test'.
And we the other Av-citizens could make our own assessments.
Do they smell like rose water...or sewerage. We dont yet know.
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Slight thread drift
Sunfish;
Another example of 'Karma' methinks.
Back to the subject.
Sunfish;
Another example of 'Karma' methinks.
Back to the subject.
LK is the bloke rumored to have instructed FOIs not to engage with the aviation community outside of official dealings
The operative word being "rumored" and I could take a very educated accurate guess at exactly from which office at the old Moore St building that came from. The white ants at work.
I personally ( as an industry rep.) accompanies him to a number of venues, where part of his pitch to his troops on site was the need for good relations, and an atmosphere of mutual trust, without which he was never going to achieve the kind of cooperative relations most of FAA has with the aviation community.
Compared with present day audits, his common refrain to inspectors was:" A compliant organisation is not necessarily a safe organisation, a non-compliant organisation is not necessarily an unsafe organisation", a thought completely foreign to the present day "enforcement" regime.
He expected balanced judgement, not jackboots.
Tootle pip!!
PS: It was a subsequent CEO/DAS that announced "we are policemen", with all that followed.
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