Channel 7 Sunday Night Program About VH-MDX
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Let us into the secret - what does the handbook say?
Imagine you are a low time private pilot? I think you would fly inland into the mountains rather than make a slight mistake in reading all that stuff.
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I reckon it would be far better to just reach the airspace boundary, half-roll and pull through into the ground than have to interpret those NOTAMs.
It's a bloody conspiracy I tell you, forcing pilots to have to read, let alone understand them.
And while we're at it, there should be a mod for all GPS units so that when I hit Direct/Direct, a signal goes out to ATC getting a clearance for me on the required track rather than have to faff around with radios, transponders and such like.
It's a bloody conspiracy I tell you, forcing pilots to have to read, let alone understand them.
And while we're at it, there should be a mod for all GPS units so that when I hit Direct/Direct, a signal goes out to ATC getting a clearance for me on the required track rather than have to faff around with radios, transponders and such like.
[T]here should be a mod for all GPS units so that when I hit Direct/Direct, a signal goes out to ATC getting a clearance for me on the required track rather than have to faff around with radios, transponders and such like.
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Can someone in the know explain why this NOTAM was put out?
This is a dead serious question.
Best answer gets a carton of OzEmite!
This is a dead serious question.
Best answer gets a carton of OzEmite!
Last edited by Dick Smith; 18th Jun 2014 at 08:38.
Call the CDF or Margaret Staib and ask.
Comparing the NOTAMs to ERSA all I can see at a quick glance is that "during WLM ATS hours" or similar has been replaced with the specific Restricted Area numbers applicable to the specific track specified.
Comparing the NOTAMs to ERSA all I can see at a quick glance is that "during WLM ATS hours" or similar has been replaced with the specific Restricted Area numbers applicable to the specific track specified.
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@Dick Smith - I buy your tomato sauce, peanut butter and honey by the armful, but your Ozemite looks and tastes like axle grease.
BTW, the packaging for your honey is very practical and works well.
BTW, the packaging for your honey is very practical and works well.
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Captain. Thanks. I will say again -Incredible complicated - but it does look like a slight move forward .
Are all of these restricted areas normally released on weekends? Can they become active at a moments notice?
Still looks to me that 80% of private pilots will take a look at the requirements and decide they are so complicated and so easy to make an error that it's better to go inland and try and keep out of all the restricted areas.
Pete. That's a compliment about Ozemite. -thanks - the yanks reckon Vegemite tastes like axle grease so maybe there is a market in the USA!
Are all of these restricted areas normally released on weekends? Can they become active at a moments notice?
Still looks to me that 80% of private pilots will take a look at the requirements and decide they are so complicated and so easy to make an error that it's better to go inland and try and keep out of all the restricted areas.
Pete. That's a compliment about Ozemite. -thanks - the yanks reckon Vegemite tastes like axle grease so maybe there is a market in the USA!
Second best gets two cartons! (Sorry Dick, just joking!)
Can't say I am an aficionado of axle grease, but Ozemite is OK, the tomato sauce is all my wife now buys, some of the really hot sauces and chutneys from the Terry Hill shop are as good as you can get, and better than anything from Coles or Woolies.
Tootle pip!!
Incredible complicated
Then as a cost cutting measure someone closed all the briefing offices down, and those in the consolidated briefing offices didn't have local knowledge and over time became deskilled and pilots were encouraged to self help rather than wait for lengthy period in telephone queues.
Consequently pilots were left to either try to figure things out themselves or perhaps ask an instructor, who in time also themselves became deskilled and less knowledgeable.
And that's pretty much where we are today.
Creamie...you have to ask yourself...because of or despite of ...
CASA alluded to the question in its submission to the ASSR Panel:
6.21 As all regulators, and those who closely study the processes of regulation, know only too well, it can be difficult to accurately and reliably measure the effectiveness of enforcement action. …
What we do know for sure is that nearly everybody uses the ‘fear factor’ to justify whatever position they have about the regulation of aviation in Australia. There’s a reason for that.
Although the level of risk of an event is an objective fact, the perception of the level of risk is influenced by a number of factors, including dread of the potential outcomes. This is called “cognitive bias”.
Punters dread the potential for dying in an air crash, even though there are lots and lots of other ways to die that, as an objective fact, are far more likely and far more unpleasant than in an air crash. Punters imagine how horrible the inevitable ‘death plunge’ from 30,000’ would be in contrast to the pleasant death one has in a car wrapped around a tree next to the highway. Thus punters will press for and support anything that is perceived to reduce the risk of air accidents.
If we don’t get rid of those CVD pilots, there’s an increased risk to air safety.
If we don’t stop private pilots taking photos in aircraft and selling them for money, there’d be an increased risk to air safety.
If we don’t get rid of those VFR pilots off the IFR routes, there’s an increased risk to air safety.
If we don’t get rid of E airspace, there’s an increased risk to air safety.
If CASA stopped approving the appointment of Chief Pilots, there’d be an increased risk to air safety.
You’re all gonna die in a death plunge from 30,000’ unless …. You leave CASA to make a million rules and micro-manage every aspect of aviation, and give Airservices control over every cubic centimetre of airspace.
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Creamie.
What's worse than casa at this present stage is the auditors for the oil gas and mining. They make casa look like Sunday school. They impose unrealistic conditions on aviation that has to be seen to be believed. One I had was I was not to use my tools for any other purpose that aircraft work. When I ask him can I have another 80k he ask what for. I said so I can have a tool box at home to use. He looked at me puzzled and ask why 80k and I said that's a minimum of what is in my tool box. Needless to say he didn't give me 80k so I use my tools as I see fit.
Cheers
What's worse than casa at this present stage is the auditors for the oil gas and mining. They make casa look like Sunday school. They impose unrealistic conditions on aviation that has to be seen to be believed. One I had was I was not to use my tools for any other purpose that aircraft work. When I ask him can I have another 80k he ask what for. I said so I can have a tool box at home to use. He looked at me puzzled and ask why 80k and I said that's a minimum of what is in my tool box. Needless to say he didn't give me 80k so I use my tools as I see fit.
Cheers
But the difference is that a person buying a service can demand anything they like from the service provider. The person can demand that you wear a pink tutu while you’re doing maintenance and buy new tools every 6 months. The market, not the law, determines whether you choose to wear a tutu and buy new tools every 6 months, and whether the person goes elsewhere if you choose not to accept at a price the person is prepared to pay. (It seems that’s exactly what happened in the example you gave.)
But if law says you must wear a pink tutu and replace your tools every 6 months, there’s no choice.
But if law says you must wear a pink tutu and replace your tools every 6 months, there’s no choice.
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The Secrets of Australia's own Devils Triangle
Since the 2nd World War Barrington Tops has claimed an astounding 21 lives through aviation accidents.
At an altitude of 1500m, Aeroplane Hill breaches the clouds, sitting tall, silent and deadly in what has become known as Australia's own Devils Triangle.
This prehistoric and almost impenetrable jungle is reluctant to give up its secrets, none more-so than the mystery of the disappearance of VH-MDX.
On August 9 it will be 33 years since the aircrafts doomed final journey. Despite numerous searches over the years, VH-MDX and the 5 men on board remain lost in our own backyard, their families left without answers.
Regardless of difficulty or cost - Is it time to bring VH-MDX home?
Tell us what you think - please go to our website and leave your comments.
- What do you think?
At an altitude of 1500m, Aeroplane Hill breaches the clouds, sitting tall, silent and deadly in what has become known as Australia's own Devils Triangle.
This prehistoric and almost impenetrable jungle is reluctant to give up its secrets, none more-so than the mystery of the disappearance of VH-MDX.
On August 9 it will be 33 years since the aircrafts doomed final journey. Despite numerous searches over the years, VH-MDX and the 5 men on board remain lost in our own backyard, their families left without answers.
Regardless of difficulty or cost - Is it time to bring VH-MDX home?
Tell us what you think - please go to our website and leave your comments.
- What do you think?
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maybe not...
Creamie,
Maybe not:
good old Wikipedia...
Maybe not:
The Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, is a loosely defined region in the western part of the North Atlantic Ocean...