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Heads or Nails.
HmHb - It appears to be more about how casa have treated this person and the company and how the power of a government department was used against him that has the senator concerned.
Responses to the Senate, the 'Prune Gate' petition and survey have provided an ugly snapshot of the CASA methodology of dealing with what they perceive as 'deep and meaningful' safety issues. Further it has presented some disturbing side issues. Some of which, I and the other "Editors" of the survey believe require Judicial investigation, independent of the incumbent Government.
Purely based against research of publicly available documentation there are some serious issues which reflect the absolute arrogance, incompetence and mendacity of this publicly funded department.
The heartbreak is that despite all the blood, sweat and tears they have brought down on the industry, there has not been one tangible safety benefit delivered to the Australian traveling public. Lot's of meaningless spin to fool the Senators (Bless 'em), lots of shiny pointless twaddle, but measurable safety related outcomes.
Macbeth - "That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing".
And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing".
Selah.
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Never ceases to amaze me how the little guys continue to be persecuted, meanwhile bigger operators (like ours worth 270 million of taxpayers solid green) with government contracts or contacts get away with illegal practises which would normally draw a sacrificial burning of an AOC!
It brings back memories of the 'Untouchables', oh the hypocrisy of this regulator!
Sadly when one of our 2000 hr 'HOFO' approved wonders puts one in the drink all the gestapo will say "is that it must of been 'pilot error'", then the ATSB will do a study on the risks of special mission ops and issue half a dozen 'Safety Recommendations' to the CASA. The CASA will then stall for a couple of years, wait till it's all blown over and then discretely give the ATSB the 'bird'.
Sheesh this country has gone to the dogs!
It brings back memories of the 'Untouchables', oh the hypocrisy of this regulator!
Sadly when one of our 2000 hr 'HOFO' approved wonders puts one in the drink all the gestapo will say "is that it must of been 'pilot error'", then the ATSB will do a study on the risks of special mission ops and issue half a dozen 'Safety Recommendations' to the CASA. The CASA will then stall for a couple of years, wait till it's all blown over and then discretely give the ATSB the 'bird'.
Sheesh this country has gone to the dogs!
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Sarcs, Pure gold mate, ditto !!
But of course FF's interest is merely as a 'spectator' from the balconies who just happens to be interested in aviation legal tussles, and he just happens to know a lot of detail about specific cases in which on each occasion he backs up the Regulator!! Yes yes yes, interesting indeed.
Interesting to note how similar FF's post sounds to the regulator's CLO Ana'stasi' (see he has even got it in his name), is that a lawyer thing or is FF maybe AA's script writer?
Now there's a rumour!
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Available - CASA v Phelan thread, it's all numbers (votes) game now.
The latest Phelan offerings are good reading for those intertested.
Job done - paperwork complete- Thanks to all x 1500. 
The latest Phelan offerings are good reading for those intertested.
Job done - paperwork complete- Thanks to all x 1500.
Worms..! more wriggles than a (smelly) bait tin
So CASA cant/wont actually say what the legal costs incurred re Butson are, or re ComCover see ref A Anustasi.
Having sent an Invoice to the AWI clowns that were responsible for a failed /fraudulent case against me (unpaid), and CASA having denied its Model Litgant Obligations, also to pay, I will have to go to court for costs and etc.
I keep the AWIs updated with the ongoing invoice plus accruing interest.
Two of the buggers are no longer with CASA...and when I sent the Xmas update, one poor boy sent it home to Mummy.
So.. AA himself contacts me to say I mustn't, any communication must be to him, and in the event of a claim they will defend it. This is the same AA as above who advised previously,'no libility' and no MLO.!
The inference is that the EX employees still have the security of the CASA legal costs umbrella....and they (2) ARE NO LONGER are employed by CASA. WTF !
Methinks this bizare letter shows he is severely up himself, and then some.
On the local scene, site of the 'split in' incident that caused the failed case, a CASA wally has complained to others that CASA costs SO FAR...over nothing!!! have been in excess of $300,000.!!!
Which just goes to show that CASA piss up against the wall weekly,many times over the very small amount sought by this victim.
Costs re Butson, if I might extra-polar-ate, must be in the millions.!!
But Sshhh...dont mention the money. Plenty of taxpayers out there to fill the troughs.
I think a letter to the Minister for Finance is in order.
Having sent an Invoice to the AWI clowns that were responsible for a failed /fraudulent case against me (unpaid), and CASA having denied its Model Litgant Obligations, also to pay, I will have to go to court for costs and etc.
I keep the AWIs updated with the ongoing invoice plus accruing interest.
Two of the buggers are no longer with CASA...and when I sent the Xmas update, one poor boy sent it home to Mummy.
So.. AA himself contacts me to say I mustn't, any communication must be to him, and in the event of a claim they will defend it. This is the same AA as above who advised previously,'no libility' and no MLO.!
The inference is that the EX employees still have the security of the CASA legal costs umbrella....and they (2) ARE NO LONGER are employed by CASA. WTF !
Methinks this bizare letter shows he is severely up himself, and then some.
On the local scene, site of the 'split in' incident that caused the failed case, a CASA wally has complained to others that CASA costs SO FAR...over nothing!!! have been in excess of $300,000.!!!
Which just goes to show that CASA piss up against the wall weekly,many times over the very small amount sought by this victim.
Costs re Butson, if I might extra-polar-ate, must be in the millions.!!
But Sshhh...dont mention the money. Plenty of taxpayers out there to fill the troughs.
I think a letter to the Minister for Finance is in order.
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This weeks highlight for me was sitting down for a few beers this evening with a very astute and well connected Aviator. He has friends and enemies who reside within Fort Fumble. Anyway his new tactic has been to dump a massive amount or rumor, innuendo, a little truth, a touch more bull**** and some outlandish lies in the past few weeks into the laps of these incompetents who took the bait hook, line and RCA !! He was very cunning and lined a few of the right people up superbly.
The buffoons have been surveilling, planning, traveling and having meetings about what has filtered through to them ever since. While this was and still is taking place my mate managed to, a) waste a heap of their time, b) stitch up one inspector particularly, and c) pull of a few sneaky moves of his own while the regulator was distracted and make a couple of really good bonus dollars!
Add to that he spread a sh#tload of truth, half truths, complete lies and fantasy all rolled into one and he even had the regulator fighting among themselves internally!!!
In fact I heard that as a result of what CASA thought they were receiving through 'intel' Terry Farckwitson pushed through a new internal procedure! Oh dear, what would Skull and Anustasi be thinking?
Anyway it sounds like loads a fun and we should all try it.
Absolutely superb, my guess from what I hear is that Fort Fumble got well and truly got 'punked' !!!!
The buffoons have been surveilling, planning, traveling and having meetings about what has filtered through to them ever since. While this was and still is taking place my mate managed to, a) waste a heap of their time, b) stitch up one inspector particularly, and c) pull of a few sneaky moves of his own while the regulator was distracted and make a couple of really good bonus dollars!
Add to that he spread a sh#tload of truth, half truths, complete lies and fantasy all rolled into one and he even had the regulator fighting among themselves internally!!!
In fact I heard that as a result of what CASA thought they were receiving through 'intel' Terry Farckwitson pushed through a new internal procedure! Oh dear, what would Skull and Anustasi be thinking?
Anyway it sounds like loads a fun and we should all try it.
Absolutely superb, my guess from what I hear is that Fort Fumble got well and truly got 'punked' !!!!
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Never ceases to amaze me how the little guys continue to be persecuted, meanwhile bigger operators (like ours worth 270 million of taxpayers solid green) with government contracts or contacts get away with illegal practises which would normally draw a sacrificial burning of an AOC!
GA operators don't have the money or resources for such legal war so they usually just cave in and are then at the mercy of CASA's ever changing whims.
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This would take alot (sic) of money and resources out of CASA
If you have to ask why.....
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Asking why
Is a little like Oliver asking for more, you miss out and probably get a flogging at the same time for your troubles.
It's tempting to blame industry apathy, but that ain't fair, it's tough enough as it is without having the 'heavy mob' on your case.
About say's it all really.
It's tempting to blame industry apathy, but that ain't fair, it's tough enough as it is without having the 'heavy mob' on your case.
PAF - If you have to ask why....
Duke Senior:
Sweet are the uses of adversity,
Which, like the toad, ugly and venomous,
Wears yet a precious jewel in his head;
And this our life, exempt from public haunt,
Finds tongues in trees, books in the running brooks,
Sermons in stones, and good in every thing.
As You Like It Act 2, scene 1, 12–17
Sweet are the uses of adversity,
Which, like the toad, ugly and venomous,
Wears yet a precious jewel in his head;
And this our life, exempt from public haunt,
Finds tongues in trees, books in the running brooks,
Sermons in stones, and good in every thing.
As You Like It Act 2, scene 1, 12–17
I'm surprised the last couple of posts haven't woken 'old mate' flyingfiend from his slumber!
Or maybe he is having dinner with Greg (CEO of ASA) at the 'Ottoman Cuisine restaurant' at a $1000 a pop, FFS
Or maybe he is having dinner with Greg (CEO of ASA) at the 'Ottoman Cuisine restaurant' at a $1000 a pop, FFS
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I'm surprised the last couple of posts haven't woken 'old
mate' flyingfiend from his slumber!
mate' flyingfiend from his slumber!
I believe he has gone to ground ever since his real identity has come close to being revealed! Isn't that correct Flyingfool? Perhaps your taunts about Fed police investigations has now put you in the spotlight?
Or maybe he is having dinner with Greg (CEO of ASA) at the
'Ottoman Cuisine restaurant' at a $1000 a pop, FFS
'Ottoman Cuisine restaurant' at a $1000 a pop, FFS
Or perhaps attending an aviation law conference in NZ?
Or perhaps attending an aviation law conference in NZ?
.Right about now his biggest decision is when it would be politically correct to slip from a cino to a nice chilled NZ sav blanc!
