I vote yes. :ok:
POST NO 4 IS THE FIRST POST FOR THIS THREAD! :ugh: Tail Wheel |
I see CASA as no different to any other government institution, all the way down to Council level.
They are more concerned with job justification (security) than they are about delivering positive outcomes. In the case of JQ, it even appears to me, that they have no safety mechanism for themselves to halt a process they begin when it becomes evident that the outcome will have no benefit to safety. Heck, if you look in the regs there are penalty units applied to most of the stuff. It might have been more appropriate to issue JQ with a fine based penalty. Without hindsight he might have fought it, with hindsight it would have been a better option for all concerned. I get more and more less proud to be an Aussie everyday when I see this sort of muppetry in motion. I have always felt my vote as basically worthless, with a strong feeling of I make no difference in the greater scheme. Its not just CASA, but every element of our lives is over regulated, over charged, and we are almost powerless to get it fixed, whilst those f*cking it get paid more and more. I'm not one for jumping on causes, often viewing those driving them as fruitcakes. Pass the custard. Yes. mcdonal. I also had the token expired response that Frank got on my first attempt at posting. CASA's IT dept 'working' the thread? |
I vote Yay,
Something weird going on as Kharon started the thread but is number 3 on the post list. And I posted after jas24zzk's second post. |
No Confidence. Vote here.
Well, the gauntlet has been thrown down, the challenge accepted.
If enough support can be indicated, anonymously, here on Pprune it is proposed that a formal petition be presented to one of our aviation aware Senators for consideration by the Senate. Petition is HERE The properly drafted petition will present a No Confidence statement in the Director, Deputy Director and Executive Manger Legal Services; and call for the immediate independent investigation of the complaints raised within the petition. In our opinion the CASA is not providing Australia with the service required, frivolously wastes vast sums of tax payer money, deceives the Minister and achieves inferior safety outcomes. The negative impact of the ideology and management of the CASA is acting to provide a probable negative safety outcome which will, one day result in a serious accident. I and many others believe the current ethos of maximum administrative punishment, minimum criminal prosecution and the almost total lack of quantifiable safety outcomes is detrimental to achieving increased, outcome based safety standards. There are many issues; but radically the pervading 'Culture of Fear', intimidation, mendacity and total lack of accountability has been allowed to become a 'normalised deficiency'. 1000 signatures would be regarded as 'an avalanche of expert opinion'; 5 times that number would ensure the way aviation safety is regulated and managed a matter of national concern. It should be, but who else apart from the victims of this arrogant, self regulating, self aggrandising, crippled thing we refer to as the 'Safety Authority' would know ?. Speak now, or forever hold your peace. Selah. |
Please - Understand this.
This is a serious attempt to establish that there is real outcry against the CASA.
The message is simple; we the industry (undersigned) have had a 'guts full'. To take this project to a Senate quality document against a 'monster' is going to take time, money and a modicum of talent. Show your support or lack thereof; log on, post a simple Yeah or Nay, this will allow the Gods to decide if our claims are worth pursuing. Your life, your criminal record, your industry. Your call lads and lasses. Selah - (big time). PS; plain enough Jabba, I tried mate. More cryptic crosswords next week. :D http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif |
What does "token expired" mean when attempting to answer this post?
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Wuzz up Voltaire??
Frank - ho ho :D Yeah or Nay Votaire - No Do Be Do.
To do is Voltare, to Be is Hamlet and to Do Be Do is Sinatra. I know, it's an oldie. :D |
I and at least five non-prooners scarred by the regulator will
sign. (If mystified by Voltaire references - his real name was Frank Arouet. Or perhaps Francois? Improbable the living breathing F.A.'s real name is Voltaire . . . . . Unless he took such a shine to the handle with an aerial flavour he legalised it. Like a certain Mr JL Seagull who really is so legally known, living in blissful hippiedom in NE NSW. Old mate and I have met him, seen his deep poll papers .. . Seen him swoop in and snatch up others' fried chips too.) |
Petition.
YES to that in spades !!!!
As for my Life. Job and income fcuked over by CASA. As for my criminal record. CASA gave me that too. Had SFA to do about preventing aeroplanes falling from the sky, or anything to do with safety, buts that's the nature of the beast we MUST put to the sword. As for 'my' industry...and yours. Absolutely worth fighting for, as a vital slice of GAFA infrastructure, our right to fly safely or even be on the tarmac without fear of retribution from some FOI, AWI that has 'sh*t on the liver' for the day. Our right NOT to fcuked over by power crazy immoral bastards that cant even spell 'integrity', let alone know what it means. Some plain old fashioned, credible leadership would have helped ?.. but its passed saving now. The use by date is long gone. We, the aviation people DEMAND common sense, sanity... and democracy to mean something, for the industry we are in, because we enjoy doing what we do. (did) I'll use the analogy that a CASA bum used to one of my clients ... Think of xxxxx aeroplane ( insert CASA) as a sh*t heap of a bus that he got (came) off the dump. Would you ride in that? CASA is that bus. We've been forced to ride in it for far too long. Its time we all got off... and burnt it. |
I will sign it.
I had an interview with a consultant company on behalf of CASA today and part of the discussion was the pilot communities view on CASA, now that is not a question to ask a pilot, but anyway I answered. The problem is people view CASA just the same as a policeman in either of the following scenario's. A: Small country town, local copper pulls you over for a few k's over, or answering a phone or something that in the circumstances was not dangerous, but against a rule. He says, young Jaba, that might be OK and safe here but in a school zone or somewhere else not so. How about you be more careful, if I see you do it again you might get a ticket. OK? Now scoot and be more careful. And by the way whats with that crack in your windscreen? B: Big city copper, same infringement, copper books you, nasty tone, and then books you for a windscreen crak that happend 5k up the road because a truck illegally had an uncovered load, and then you get really pi$$ed. So tel me which version do you see being the one likely to produce a better safety outcome? how would country copper have handled situation B, an educational talking to, and telling you to get mick the mechanic in town to replace your windscreen, and by the way I will talk to Troy the Truckie about covering his loads. Now how does industry view CASA? Its a no brainer. They need a major marketing makeover but first they need to improve their product. |
Is it time? damn right it is. My vote "YES".
The aviation industry in Australia is being slowly strangled by regulation. Unless there is dramatic change it will continue to decline into oblivion. Simple comparisons of the shear volume of Australian regulations against comparable 1st world countries where aviation is healthily growing, against safety outcomes here and there would indicate that the way we are doing things is NOT producing the desired results, just heaping regulatory cost upon regulatory cost for no tangible result. |
wtf is up with the database? I posted after thornbird
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I'll vote yes also. Jaba's hit it spot on
The time stamp fairy is working overtime - posted at 0835 EDST |
My vote is Yes!
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Bump
Data Base ????
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My vote is a big YES
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My vote is a resounding YES
Who has forgotten the rotten mess of CASA in Far Nth Qld, subsequently cleaned up by Byron? What sort of inept area manager allowed the misconduct to re emerge, worse than ever? It's not just North Qld, there are several area offices through out Australia embracing the Manual of Standards for Dirty Tricks. |
I vote yes , after seeing what CASA did to GAAP with no industry consultation and negative outcomes in regard to operational safety / simplicity and efficiency
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Yes, the way CASA is going we will need an endorsment to have a pee. :ugh:
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A robust YES
In true bureaucratic wank speach I vote a resounding, robust, overarching YES. This truly malfeasant mob of misfits is a total trainwreck that needs to be cleared if Australian aviation is to move forward.The history of this mob alone tells you that their system is not working.
Some of the reasons that they receive my vote of no confidence is;
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