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Old 16th Sep 2011, 01:29
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I wasn't insulted by the comment at all. I loathe the woman too. Though calling anyone a whore is a bit unnecessary.

What I find insulting is that she assumes we voters are all too stupid to see through her fabian ideology and talks to us as if we were primary school children who need to be brainwashed into believing complete nonsense (Santa Claus, religion, the carbon tax will save the world etc) .

Loved the story about her not being able to get on the bus with the other "leaders". Medal for the bus driver! hahaha
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The post by Andronikos expressing outrage at the description of Gillard appears to be an attempt to wind up the regulars (as opposed to the trolls).

Perhaps Andronikos could educate himself by searching on Wikipedia where he'll find quite a lot about Gillard she'd rather not be published such as:

Living with a corrupt Union official and her affair with another Labor parliamentarian is in the public domain, and may (or may not) be the tip of the iceberg.

Gillard also expresses full confidence in an MP who is now alleged to have received secret commissions.

You have to ask yourself:

Is Gillard a moral and ethical person?

Has she demonstrated she is trustworthy?

Does she deserve the confidence of all Australians"?
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Old 16th Sep 2011, 02:02
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Whore (noun) [hawr] (insult)

1. an offensive term for a prostitute

2. an offensive term for somebody regarded as being sexually indiscriminate

3. an offensive term for somebody who is regarded as willing to set aside principles or personal integrity I order to obtain something, usually for selfish motives

Yep, reckon Bob got it right first time.
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Old 16th Sep 2011, 02:35
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In a recent speech outlining her "Labor vision" the red w....ooops...Jooliar said

"I am here today to say to you, that fashionable thinking is a mistake - indeed a grave error," she said.
Presumably she meant to add "with the exception of climate change and carbon taxes"
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THE HEALTH SERVICES UNION TODAY SEVERED TIES WITH THE ALP.

Tick Tock, Tick Tock..............
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Old 16th Sep 2011, 10:39
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I .knew this thread was going to be wortwhile. I for one have gained a lot of information that I would missed out on otherwise.If I wished to be a smartarse I could ask Andronikos if his psudoym came from the coffee cup he was taking his latte from but I would nt do that as it may lessen the tone that, generally occurs in this thread. Having said that does anyone forget the vile invective poured on Pauline Hanson ,not only on threads like this one,but on mainstream print,TV and radio? Redneck?I suppose that not being an inner city greenie latte type ,you are spot on ,and about 12years too late for that one..I am not the slightest bit insulted .But if you think that Iam going to stop being rude about the destruction of my country you are quite wrong. Now can you kindly piss off and allow people who REALLY care about our country to get on with discussing how it can be put right .Like a good chap.
 
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Interesting article.

Labor plants poison pills in carbon tax | The Australian

IT was Mark Dreyfus QC, Parliamentary Secretary for Climate Change, who let the cat out of the bag.

Once the carbon change legislation is in place, he said, repeal would amount to an acquisition of property by the commonwealth, as holders of emissions permits would be deprived of a valuable asset. As a result, the commonwealth would be liable, under s.51(xxxi) of the Australian Constitution, to pay compensation, potentially in the billions of dollars. A future government would therefore find repeal prohibitively costly.

That consequence is anything but unintended.
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 01:35
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The Fabians are getting a lot less subtle these days, aren't they?...communism to be gradually established avoiding direct confrontation/revolution...?
Is she just one of the stupid ones, or is this the next step towards the New World Order?
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I could ask Andronikos if his psudoym came from the coffee cup he was taking his latte from
Incorrect assumption Bob. I live in a town of 5000, 10 hours drive to the nearest Gloria Jeans.

but I would nt do that as it may lessen the tone that, generally occurs in this thread
With the possible exception of your previous post.
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communism to be gradually established avoiding direct confrontation/revolution...?
This would be in keeping with a long standing tradition in Canberra in everything from education systems to major defence purchases - Canberra's unerring tradition of looking overseas and buying, usually at great expense*, a system that has been proven not to work overseas, the theory apparently being that, despite all the ample evidence to the contrary, WE will get it right.


* If anyone thinks the current Rudd/Gillard 'experiment' isn't going to turn out to incredibly expensive to this nation in the long run, I have this really great bridge you might like to buy...
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Thanks for the link, CFI.

I'm always getting them confused with Thespians.
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Australian Fabian Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I saw this very droll comment today on the Andrew Bolt blog.

If the Gillard government falls on the Pokie issue, it will be the biggest jackpot payout in Australian history.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
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Andronikos.!! So you do forget the poison poured on the other Red Head? As I said on my last posting ,kindly Piss off until you can contribute something positive to get this wonderful country back on track , like a good chap.
 
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Adding to my recent post I am not going to respond further to that goose . A total waste of space and time . How ever I remain Tenax In Fide to my country.
 
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This would be in keeping with a long standing tradition in Canberra in everything from education systems to major defence purchases - Canberra's unerring tradition of looking overseas and buying, usually at great expense*, a system that has been proven not to work overseas, the theory apparently being that, despite all the ample evidence to the contrary, WE will get it right
Whichever collection of dorks is in charge Canberra usually can't run a bath, so why would a covert Communist takeover be any different?
They're like a really lousy small town business that survives purely because they're the only hardware supplier in (let's say) Tamborine. They don't have to be particularly competent because they know that if you need a hammer and you live in Tamborine, they're the only place that sells one. Might I add that the Tamborine Mitre 10 is popularly known as Mitre 5, because it's only got half the stuff you need ?

No-one's going to launch a takeover bid, because in both cases (the Australian government and Tamborine hardware supplies) the profit/hassle equation doesn't come out in favour of it. Therefore we're stuck with cruddy governments and a lack of decent hammers. Of course you can drive 40 minutes one way down a mountain road to Bunnings and/or move overseas to do business, but both Mitre 5 and the Australian Government know that most people aren't going to do that often enough to put them out of business.

In a way, Tamborine is a microcosm of Australia. Pretty place, nice to live in and lots of tourists visit and say 'Jeez, what a great place. I'd like to come here'. When you point out to them that it's small, inbred and very parochial, all three levels of government will conspire against any real business opportunity, property/infrastructure prices are massive and there is a very small and finite target market, it suddenly looks less attractive. Nice place though, if your actual income comes from outside the area. Try the cheese .

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This would be in keeping with a long standing tradition in Canberra in everything from education systems to major defence purchases - Canberra's unerring tradition of looking overseas and buying, usually at great expense*, a system that has been proven not to work overseas, the theory apparently being that, despite all the ample evidence to the contrary, WE will get it right
And here my anger rises. I often look back on australia's history, esp aviation production. Our penchant for reinventing the wheel leaves no stone unturned.

Lets have a look.

Wirraway...licenced production of the harvard/texan (whatever name you want to give it today). So heavily redesigned that we should never have needed a licence anyway.


Vampire. So many Aussie only inclusions again....

Canberra...we probably altered that a ****load too.

Sabre.....hell not even the yankee engine was good enough!...another one worthy of its own type certificate.

Mirage....our own spec again...it even almost ended up with a Pomme engine...hybrid just for us.

F-111. C model, only came about because we decided to merge the navys long wing with the USAF's long nose....good thing the yanks thought it was a good idea and kept our costs down.

F/A-18. WE had to have the attack capability....good thing for us the USN also thought it was a good idea.

Lynx. Great off the shelf product. We had to modify it so much, that the requirements for contract were unachievable and we wasted billions on something we don't nor will ever have.

I probably missed some....


TV. PAL.....HA we are compatible with singapore!

Mobile phones...if Fanberra had its way, when you went O/S you'd have to buy a new handset as yours would have only worked here.

I bet your new digital radio won't work O/S!.....its made to an 'australian (government) standard'

...end rant
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 22:22
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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse - or ridiculous!

PM - Likely new High Court immigration challenge 15/09/2011

A group of Legal Aid lawyers says it's preparing for yet another possible High Court challenge to the immigration regime. It could be one more spoke in the wheels of a Federal Government struggling to resurrect its Malaysia Solution plan.

Lawyers in four states and the Northern Territory are now cooperating in an effort to free about 350 alleged people smugglers who face mandatory prison sentences in this country. They're all watching a case which is soon to be heard by the Victorian Court of Appeal.

The lawyers there will argue that, if it is legal for people to claim asylum in Australia, then it shouldn't be illegal for people to bring them here. They say that whatever happens in the Victorian case, it's all highly likely to end up in the High Court.
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Julia Gillard to get spin classes after PM sends SOS to image expert | thetelegraph.com.au

JULIA Gillard has enlisted the help of an image consultant and media training guru to sharpen up her public performances.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal the Prime Minister has undertaken intensive coaching at Kirribilli House with a renowned "leadership skills trainer".

Ms Gillard, who has struggled to translate her feisty parliamentary performances into convincing interviews and speeches, took the crash course ahead of two major prime ministerial addresses.

Image Media Services trainer Mike Macnamara met with Ms Gillard just days before she delivered her nationally televised address to the nation spruiking the carbon tax.

The lesson also came on the eve of the PM's speech at the NSW Labor conference in July.

Despite Mr Macnamara's expertise in "media interview technique and stand and deliver presentation skills", Ms Gillard's televised address received mixed reviews, with some labelling it wooden and overly scripted. And her speech to the party faithful was also oddly subdued.
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Don't you normally do that before you take a job that comes with a lot of media exposure?
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