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Old 26th Nov 2010, 09:32
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That used to be called Ayers Rock
Bobawk renamed it.
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Old 27th Nov 2010, 00:15
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Remember the battery carts for the F27, they must have quite a capacity, as they provided power for night lighting etc as well as starting engines. Came across one at King Is some years after Ansett had stopped running in there, and it was still servicable. Can't remember whether the F50 had a APU or it too used battery carts.
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Remember the battery carts for the F27, they must have quite a capacity, as they provided power for night lighting etc as well as starting engines.

No it didn’t – the battery cart was purely for lighting, engine starts were on internal ship’s batteries (with all the fun that that implied).

Decent GPU’s (Murex), which would support an engine start, were only available at major ports, e.g. Melbourne
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engine starts were on internal ship’s batteries (with all the fun that that implied).
Memories.

The old metering of the HP Cock.
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" Metering the HP Cock".....I never seemed to be able to find the bit in the Manual about that!!

Engineering probably would have had a fit if they saw it.

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Old 27th Nov 2010, 07:39
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metering??

The term "thermally shocking the turbine" springs to mind!!
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" Metering the HP Cock".....I never seemed to be able to find the bit in the Manual about that!!

Engineering probably would have had a fit if they saw it.
I wish I had a dollar for every time I have done that, I would be VERY rich.

On a few starts off low batteries have even done more than that, used to crank the engine on blowout/motoring (whatever it was called), then when up to as high an RPM as it would go turn on the ignition, and then still have to meter the HP cock.

Anyone can start a Dart off ground power.
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The term "thermally shocking the turbine" springs to mind!!
It doesn't hurt anything, you just need to know what you are doing and be very careful.
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As tedious as the Fokker Fo's job may have been it was in the knowledge that one day there would be the RESERVE BLOCK. Then on with the real career path in real estate, financial services,wine shops, hobby farms and even prawn trawlers.
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Spot on Tinnie...you had to be pretty senior in CNS to get a reserve block!!

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Hasten to add..I did my share of metering around the traps. No option in retrospect.

As an FO did 4 yrs on Viscounts and recall one night at Essendon parked on one of the bays in the inner area of the tarmac, had a very hot start.
The sheet of flame was about 10 ft long according to the hostie.

Certainly got the attention of everyone in the terminal !

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Hasten to add..I did my share of metering around the traps. No option in retrospect.
Correct, IF you do not have a decent GPU, it is the only option sometimes.
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Murex. Useful gadget as I remember when working in the UK, to locate aircraft on the tarmac. Grope carefully through the fog towards the noise.
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Our low flying AN Capt of Alice fame was an ex 'croppie' and left an Ag-Cat wedged firmly up a large tower in Toowomba once. Sticking out like Robbin Hoods arrow it was. (TV Tower?). There was a memorable picture in an early Digest. I cannot remember how they got him down it was a long time ago. I was also his FO on numerous trips including his initial check to the line. He was a good stick and rudder pilot and I enjoyed his company. He just had a moment of madness, shame really because it destroyed his career. I cannot recall him getting his command back.

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Did the F50 have a APU?
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 09:34
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an ex 'croppie' and left an Ag-Cat wedged firmly up a large tower in Toowomba once. Sticking out like Robbin Hoods arrow it was.
Funny, I somehow always attributed that to "Marbles" M. (RIP)..or was it Loopy? .... An old PNG hand would know..
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You know what Tinny I think you are right , since posting that, I thought, "was that Jimbo" and I think, yes, that incident was JM and again a lovely bloke who I had many beers with and sadly no longer with us. I have just got back from a ten day trip and the mind is suffering from dementia. Still, I stand by my assesment of "Digger", I lilked him, he could fly, just lost it once. (I lost it once walking down the Isle, we are all human).
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 18:12
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By George me mind still working! And...I believe it was the local radio antenna? No Life With Dexter for the locals that day...

(And a nagging doubt it was an Ag Cat? Tiger more likely?)

On the RESERVE BLOCK. One bloke gets CALLED OUT, heaven forbid. Couldn't find his way to the new Ansett terminal BNE.
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Was the F27 that Connair operated ex Ansett?
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When Connair became 'Northern Airlines' VH-MMO was painted up in a green and yellow scheme and flew track trips and out to the rock. The Aircraft was ex-Ansett but obviously, another ex-MMA machine. There use to be a lovely English girl out at the rock who would 'wave the bats' and we would give the poor girl a terrible time holding up nude pictures against the windshield etc. She was a great sport but you'd go straight to jail these days.
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