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The agency would like to have the system change-over to the NextGen ATC network completed by 2018 and is expected to hold to its deadline of 2020 for users to equip with ADS-B Out, in order to retain access to Class A, Class B and Class C airspace.
For those who may have let their airspace classification knowledge slip, Class A is IFRrequired airspace between 18,000 feet msl and 60,000 feet msl; Class B is over the nation’s busiest airports, with a major airport at the center – think Atlanta, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Chicago O’Hare and other similarly high-traffic areas; Class C is a smaller space over airports down a notch in traffic – like Wichita Mid-Continent, which holds its designation in large part because of the traffic from aircraft factories adjacent to the airport.
For those who may have let their airspace classification knowledge slip, Class A is IFRrequired airspace between 18,000 feet msl and 60,000 feet msl; Class B is over the nation’s busiest airports, with a major airport at the center – think Atlanta, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Chicago O’Hare and other similarly high-traffic areas; Class C is a smaller space over airports down a notch in traffic – like Wichita Mid-Continent, which holds its designation in large part because of the traffic from aircraft factories adjacent to the airport.
Now as an Australian VFR owner/ pilot the relevance is?
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Francis....do I reeeeealllly need to spell it out? TEEEEESSSSSSOOOOO
Like our own manufacturers....does economy of scale mean anything to you?
With these TSOs in effect, the avionics industry now has the roadmap it needs to move ahead with the final design and approval work needed to offer its products to the aircraft owners and operators who will need to install new gear to use NextGen services dependent on ADS-B technologies. It’s a big step forward.
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Francis...the way I operate, I put the ENTIRE article up. That way you can see I am trying to be as unbiased as possible with this stuff. Other articles show the US FAA is quite happy with themselves, they have instigated Terminal Separation standards with their ADS-B in a hybrid delivery with radar services..thats 3nm separation as opposed to our 5nm separation in en-route ADS-B airspace.
EDIT to add- If you find any articles...not opinions.. showing any problems with ADS-B then by all means put a link in. I haven't seen anything bad about either ES or UAT since the vested interests dropped VDL as a competitor for the Euro rollout.
Make no mistake problems still exist in Europe by the shear number of aircraft flying in that airspace. There is a lot of saturation issues with 1090 that will manifest if there is not some rationalisation of frequency spectrum.
EDIT to add- If you find any articles...not opinions.. showing any problems with ADS-B then by all means put a link in. I haven't seen anything bad about either ES or UAT since the vested interests dropped VDL as a competitor for the Euro rollout.
Make no mistake problems still exist in Europe by the shear number of aircraft flying in that airspace. There is a lot of saturation issues with 1090 that will manifest if there is not some rationalisation of frequency spectrum.
....If you find any articles...not opinions.. showing any problems with ADS-B then by all means put a link in.
The Egyptian government is firmly entrenched in the opinion that GPS (Global-Positioning Systems) should return to its roots: become a ‘military-only’ system. The Canoe Dossier - GPS as a terrorism tool: In phones
Hints of a GPS guided rocket attack, now thats a new one on me...
...terrorists using Google Earth to plot a rocket attack on a fuel depot inside Israel last April that killed two men. We're not the bad guys: Google Earth boss - BizTech - Technology - smh.com.au
...terrorists using Google Earth to plot a rocket attack on a fuel depot inside Israel last April that killed two men. We're not the bad guys: Google Earth boss - BizTech - Technology - smh.com.au
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Is this still relevant?
The following approved ATSOs are now available on the CASA website:
ATSO-C1004a - Airborne mode A/C transponder equipment with extended squitter automatic dependent surveillance - broadcast (ADS-B) transmission capability
ATSO-C1005a - Airborne Stand-Alone Extended Squitter Automatic Dependent Surveillance – Broadcast (ADS-B) Transmit Only Equipment
For these and other approved ATSOs, visit the CASA website at http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD:
c=PC_90502
ATSO-C1004a - Airborne mode A/C transponder equipment with extended squitter automatic dependent surveillance - broadcast (ADS-B) transmission capability
ATSO-C1005a - Airborne Stand-Alone Extended Squitter Automatic Dependent Surveillance – Broadcast (ADS-B) Transmit Only Equipment
For these and other approved ATSOs, visit the CASA website at http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD:
c=PC_90502
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F Binghi.
Quite apart from the inter-governmental discussions about interoperability between the Russian, Chinese, European and USA GNSS systems (but the time required to build and test new satellites means that it will take take a few years to achieve that goal), there are quite a few manufacturers now, who make GNSS receivers that can process the civilian-use GPS and GLONASS signals, and once details are firmed-up, the Galileo and Compass signals. (i've omitted specialised systems such as Japan and India).
Now would the governments even consider interopability if they thought that there was a really serious threat of misuse ?
Sure..., it won't stop someone from trying to use GNSS for bad purposes, but FFS, more people die on the USA roads each month than ever did in the spectacular 11/9 event.
So I don't intent to crawl under a rock and not use GNSS just because there is a minute chance that someone might do something bad with it.
Quite apart from the inter-governmental discussions about interoperability between the Russian, Chinese, European and USA GNSS systems (but the time required to build and test new satellites means that it will take take a few years to achieve that goal), there are quite a few manufacturers now, who make GNSS receivers that can process the civilian-use GPS and GLONASS signals, and once details are firmed-up, the Galileo and Compass signals. (i've omitted specialised systems such as Japan and India).
Now would the governments even consider interopability if they thought that there was a really serious threat of misuse ?
Sure..., it won't stop someone from trying to use GNSS for bad purposes, but FFS, more people die on the USA roads each month than ever did in the spectacular 11/9 event.
So I don't intent to crawl under a rock and not use GNSS just because there is a minute chance that someone might do something bad with it.
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ATSO-C1004a
ATSO-C1005a
Your paste job was a bit ambiguous for the link there, Francis. Fixed it for you.
ATSO-C1005a
Your paste job was a bit ambiguous for the link there, Francis. Fixed it for you.
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The mind boggles-
Collision Avoidance using ADS-B RADAR
"We can modify the standard ADS-B transceiver to function as an airbourne radar for obsticle detection and tracking"
"Uses reflected ADS-B signals to detect and track non-cooperative targets (geospatial and traffic)"
Absolutely amazing
Collision Avoidance using ADS-B RADAR
"We can modify the standard ADS-B transceiver to function as an airbourne radar for obsticle detection and tracking"
"Uses reflected ADS-B signals to detect and track non-cooperative targets (geospatial and traffic)"
Absolutely amazing
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India still thinks aircraft spotters are spies-From Avweb Today
My italics and bolds....some countries still take issue to the abilities of ADS-B receivers...Over to you Mr Binghi...warts and all
Plane-Spotters Avoid Jail Time in India
Two British men who were found with a scanner, laptop, binoculars and cameras, and who admitted to "illegally monitoring aircraft" near Indira Gandhi International Airport, India, have been fined by an Indian court, but were released Friday without jail time. Stephen Hampton, 46, and Steven Ayres, 56, had faced up to 10 years under spying charges, but pled to a lesser offense that could have led to three years in jail. The two were arrested in India, Feb. 15, two days after a bomb blast in the Indian city of Pune initiated a security crackdown in the country. In the UK, authorities have approached plane-spotters differently. In 2004, a UK plan sought to recruit them to report suspicious potentially terrorist-related activities near airports. That program does not exist in India. There the men were arrested for recording the conversation between pilots and air traffic control, which (as performed) was against sections of India's Telegraph Act. The men pled guilty to a breach under the act.
Hampton and Ayres originally drew suspicion when, prior to their arrival, they requested a Radisson Hotel room overlooking an airport runway. Upon their arrival, their equipment was apparently enough to spark security's concern. Ultimately, the courts fined the men roughly $550 and left them free to return to the UK after stop notices were removed from their passports. Reports said that the equipment the men used could acquire information from the aircraft that identified each aircraft's make, tail number, and the airline that operated it. They could then use that information to track the aircraft around the world, according to a spokesman for the men. Hampton's mother told reporters her son travels the world to take pictures of aircraft, as a hobby.
Two British men who were found with a scanner, laptop, binoculars and cameras, and who admitted to "illegally monitoring aircraft" near Indira Gandhi International Airport, India, have been fined by an Indian court, but were released Friday without jail time. Stephen Hampton, 46, and Steven Ayres, 56, had faced up to 10 years under spying charges, but pled to a lesser offense that could have led to three years in jail. The two were arrested in India, Feb. 15, two days after a bomb blast in the Indian city of Pune initiated a security crackdown in the country. In the UK, authorities have approached plane-spotters differently. In 2004, a UK plan sought to recruit them to report suspicious potentially terrorist-related activities near airports. That program does not exist in India. There the men were arrested for recording the conversation between pilots and air traffic control, which (as performed) was against sections of India's Telegraph Act. The men pled guilty to a breach under the act.
Hampton and Ayres originally drew suspicion when, prior to their arrival, they requested a Radisson Hotel room overlooking an airport runway. Upon their arrival, their equipment was apparently enough to spark security's concern. Ultimately, the courts fined the men roughly $550 and left them free to return to the UK after stop notices were removed from their passports. Reports said that the equipment the men used could acquire information from the aircraft that identified each aircraft's make, tail number, and the airline that operated it. They could then use that information to track the aircraft around the world, according to a spokesman for the men. Hampton's mother told reporters her son travels the world to take pictures of aircraft, as a hobby.
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I hear GARMIN TXPDR's and GNSS units [most recent and current included] are now approved [by CASA] for ADS-B use in Australia.
Presumably other 'qualifying equipment' applications will be made
06/7402-03
I hear GARMIN TXPDR's and GNSS units [most recent and current included] are now approved [by CASA] for ADS-B use in Australia.
Presumably other 'qualifying equipment' applications will be made
06/7402-03
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Thanks to our Bush Philosopher-
FAA's ADS-B Rule Will Cost You
(Or...How a system can cost if the rest of the world doesn't fall into line and think you are fantastic!...actually, not quite correct...How a system can bite those who think it is fantastic if someone else pays for it...or...A lesson in implimenting two systems that are totally incompatable without ground station infrastructure...or...I am soooo glad our guys didn't follow the yanks!)
Thanks to AVWEB for the reporting
FAA's ADS-B Rule Will Cost You
(Or...How a system can cost if the rest of the world doesn't fall into line and think you are fantastic!...actually, not quite correct...How a system can bite those who think it is fantastic if someone else pays for it...or...A lesson in implimenting two systems that are totally incompatable without ground station infrastructure...or...I am soooo glad our guys didn't follow the yanks!)
Thanks to AVWEB for the reporting
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Solar Storms vs Your GPS
FRom AVWEB audio-
Something that must be considered.
FRom AVWEB audio-
Space scientists tell us that solar storms are on the rise and affect satellite-dependent technologies like GPS and ADS-B — there is something to worry about. AVweb's Glenn Pew spoke with Joseph Kunches, a scientist at NOAA's space weather prediction center, to determine the nature of the threat, our current defenses, and what the you can do about it.
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Never going to happen people, nobody is going to pay for the introduction of ADSB. Just something for the hobbist flyer who has everything else to further weigh down his Bonanza. More important things to spend Government money on like security fences, asic cards and more airport security.
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I think you will be mistaken, SC....keep a close eye on the happenings at Broome and Karratha...designed perfectly for the first terminal ADS-B rollout in Australia....it may take time, but it will happen