Was the Nomad really that bad?
Silly Old Git
Flew all the VH-DH..' s ex NTAMS .While they all had a lovely Collins set up (TAA spec?) none had a FLT director
Biggest gripe for me was poor brakes, strange on a STOL aircraft
Chip detector events were pretty well problem solved about 81 or 82
I do recall one of our pilots in a N22 Searchmaster on task waaaay out NW of the Tiwis calling on company " I got a chip light on , what now?"
He was advised to head back in.
Minutes later, on company "****, the other chip lights come on, what now?"
Some one piped up on freq. " Can I have your car?"
Biggest gripe for me was poor brakes, strange on a STOL aircraft
Chip detector events were pretty well problem solved about 81 or 82
I do recall one of our pilots in a N22 Searchmaster on task waaaay out NW of the Tiwis calling on company " I got a chip light on , what now?"
He was advised to head back in.
Minutes later, on company "****, the other chip lights come on, what now?"
Some one piped up on freq. " Can I have your car?"
Collins gear
I think you will find a young Dave Wiltshire wrote the spec for that collins stuff. I doubt if a lot of it has been touched since installation 35 years ago. The AP106s were probably still servicable
Silly Old Git
I have somewhere I know, a photo of the said N24 panel
I shall search
If I owned a propellor airplane I would be chuffed to have it set up just like that
It was classic
I shall search
If I owned a propellor airplane I would be chuffed to have it set up just like that
It was classic
Bottums Up
I was dailying that there aeroplane of frigatebird's one morning in Bundy. Got to one side and thought, I don't remember dropping the flaps. Returned to t'other side and flaps retracted!
A bit of a blow had passed through over night and caused the flaps on one side to extend bending the torque tube in the process!
No flying that day.
The Wart.
A bit of a blow had passed through over night and caused the flaps on one side to extend bending the torque tube in the process!
No flying that day.
The Wart.
My old company used to have a 24. We operated it on 30 min sectors to an island and it really wasn't ideal for this, but then we got a contract to operate the thing up in the pacific for a couple of months on sectors from 45 min to 5 hours and the thing really came into it's own. All the issues we had have been covered already, chip lights, control feedback especially in a quartering tailwind if I recall and the list goes on. I had an engine failure over the ocean a LONG way from away from anything that resembled much of a runway, one of the gearboxes shat itself. The autopilot never really worked so you can imagine an 11 hour ferry flight hand flying the whole way.....
I'll try importing these from Flickr.
got lots of pics of the girl, but these are the only ones I have online at the mo.
I'll try importing these from Flickr.
got lots of pics of the girl, but these are the only ones I have online at the mo.
Tinpis who operated Nomads out of Darwin in the 1970/80's?
Did the NT government own the Nomads operated for NTAMS?
Were they crewed by TAA pilots?
What was Ansetts GA arm called and did they crew the NTAMS at one stage?
Who operated the Coastwatch contract prior to Skywest?
Did the NT government own the Nomads operated for NTAMS?
Were they crewed by TAA pilots?
What was Ansetts GA arm called and did they crew the NTAMS at one stage?
Who operated the Coastwatch contract prior to Skywest?
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who operated Nomads out of Darwin in the 1970/80's?
At the time I was not involved in Aviation but shared a house in Stuart Park with a Coastwatch Pilot. (DL) I blame him for urging me to go flying!
Silly Old Git
Ansett NTAW operated the bulk of Nomads in the Top End early 80's
Your mate Pinky, worked for HCS on the Customs contrast (2 x N22s) before joining NTAW in 81.
Then the whole thing split up in 85 I cant remember who came next, John Hardy (Air North)got the Aero-Med, and whats its name Amman, got the coast watch but I dont think they ever turned a wheel.
Think the CW N22's were dispersed and somewhere Skywet bobs up.
Some operator subsequently proved the N24 would glide and safely guts on a mud flat
The airfield has provided hours of endless comedy ever since over the years, though its been a bit quiet of late.
Your mate Pinky, worked for HCS on the Customs contrast (2 x N22s) before joining NTAW in 81.
Then the whole thing split up in 85 I cant remember who came next, John Hardy (Air North)got the Aero-Med, and whats its name Amman, got the coast watch but I dont think they ever turned a wheel.
Think the CW N22's were dispersed and somewhere Skywet bobs up.
Some operator subsequently proved the N24 would glide and safely guts on a mud flat
The airfield has provided hours of endless comedy ever since over the years, though its been a bit quiet of late.
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worked for HCS on the Customs contrast (2 x N22s) before joining NTAW in 81.
You are or course, quite correct. A few too many reds over the years has dulled the memory.
BTW, did'nt HCS also operate a Shrike? Went for a couple of circuits with DL in it one weekend.
Silly Old Git
Pinky I dont recall HCS having a Shrike BASED in darwhine, however your mate was with them in Bamaga on Shrikes
Yes, TAA did crew NTAMS for years before 1980, including the Doves
Yes, TAA did crew NTAMS for years before 1980, including the Doves
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At one stage TAA provided the pilots and engineers for the NTAMS.
TAA did the set up for the operation, including modifying the aircraft for the role, as I recall. Made for some interesting times bringing the aircraft back to reality when they were retired from the role .. airline style back to GA.
Presumably, the Nomads formed a convenient route for command upgrade training for the senior F/Os ?
TAA did the set up for the operation, including modifying the aircraft for the role, as I recall. Made for some interesting times bringing the aircraft back to reality when they were retired from the role .. airline style back to GA.
Presumably, the Nomads formed a convenient route for command upgrade training for the senior F/Os ?
Always thought that the Nomad in the early 1990's would have been an ideal aircraft for the Penguin Run out of Essendon, to replace all those sh#tboxes that used to be used by old tight erectum Maurice.
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NTAMS
TAA supplied pilots and engineers to the NTAMS for 27 years. Pilots applied for advertised positions and spent 2 years in the NT. I was lucky enough to spin it out for 5, some of the best flying of my TAA years. At one stage I was approved to fly the Dove, Twin Otter and unfortunately the N24. Took TAA awhile to realise the company didn't allow one to be current on three types but it did suit them to turn a blind eye at the time.
The operation did not serve as upgrade training in fact the people who could have benefited most from the experience rarely applied, it was those who had prior experience and were bored with line flying who went there.
The contract went out to tender for the first time in 1980 and so ended TAAs association.
The operation did not serve as upgrade training in fact the people who could have benefited most from the experience rarely applied, it was those who had prior experience and were bored with line flying who went there.
The contract went out to tender for the first time in 1980 and so ended TAAs association.
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Nomad on the penguins
We did have one for a few weeks on cross hire (like everything else) but it was reposessed. I would have to check the log book for the rego but I did hear that it ended up slamming into a hill in Surabaya.
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VH-FHR
Started doing an endorsement on it then rocked up one afternoon to find it gone. Total 6.6 hours on it (dual)
ASN Aircraft accident GAF Nomad N.24A PZ-TBP Jacobcondre
I knew it ended up crashing in Suri-somewhere!
ASN Aircraft accident GAF Nomad N.24A PZ-TBP Jacobcondre
I knew it ended up crashing in Suri-somewhere!
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