Was the Nomad really that bad?
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There is a poster on here whom has had a lot to do with ATO. Hopefully he reads this and maybe he can tell you a story or two about here, maybe like the wheels up landings or how the pilots used to put her into beta and try to descend vertically.
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how the pilots used to put her into beta and try to descend vertically.
P.s yes those tags will be correct, it does get around. Has been up to Hong Kong a few times in recient years I believe
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Here means australia. So you saw one at YMMB was it a 22 or 24 did you get the rego?
By the looks of the rudder they have just started that decent.
found this link some pictures of ATO GAF N22B Nomad Walkaround Photos
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By the looks of the rudder they have just started that decent.
found this link some pictures of ATO GAF N22B Nomad Walkaround Photos
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Hey Corkie, she hasn't changed much in nearly 5 years, I guess that's the reason why the boneyard is in Tucson! I was a little disappointed during the tour at Pima as the commentator talked about every single aircraft, including mentioning that Aus were the only company still operating the F1-11, but yet he completely skipped the Nomad and made no mention of it.
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Gosh yip not much changed at all there. That place was absolutely amazing. The scope and scale of what they have preserved there is unbelievable. It sure is a great thing they survive well out in that climate, imagine trying to hangar that whole collection of monsters
Thanks for the updated pic
Thanks for the updated pic
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Was there straight after Oshkosh, Aug 2010. Big problems in the AMARC boneyard. They have had so much rain that the grass was growing everywhere all over the field, under aircraft and everywhere you wouldn't want it. Unfortunately long green grass under an aircraft is not conducive to long term storage. There were guys everywhere on ride-ons moving it.
All ok over at Pima, there's definitely no grass there.
All ok over at Pima, there's definitely no grass there.
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The thing that gets me in this forum is you have one pilot saying that it was the biggest **** box around. And then others saying it was great. Very opposing views. i am a love time pilot and only fly 172s. And i don't see myself flying a nomad. and why are the kiwi's still flying them are they better pilots than Australian pilots or the other countrys that fly them still
The only thing i can comment on is the fuel gauges. when was last time a pilot trusted his gauges thats why we have dip sticks.
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The only thing i can comment on is the fuel gauges. when was last time a pilot trusted his gauges thats why we have dip sticks.
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The only thing i can comment on is the fuel gauges. when was last time a pilot trusted his gauges thats why we have dip sticks.
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and why are the kiwi's still flying them are they better pilots than Australian pilots or the other countrys that fly them still
ask any Air Sheep driver.
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were they less cost effective than a piper navajo chieftain?
Comparison should be to a DHC6 Twin Otter, Harbin Y12 or possibly a Let-410.
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ok then if the twin otter is what i should be looking at as a comparison would that aircraft cost more to run that a nomad. I know you can still pay 2mil for a twin otter and only five hundred thousand for a nomad.
And check out KSRQ on google earth this seems to be a n22 on floats parked there.
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So how many hour do you think this has on it before it ended up here.
Photos: GAF N-22S Nomad Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
And check out KSRQ on google earth this seems to be a n22 on floats parked there.
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So how many hour do you think this has on it before it ended up here.
Photos: GAF N-22S Nomad Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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ok then if the twin otter is what i should be looking at as a comparison would that aircraft cost more to run that a nomad. I know you can still pay 2mil for a twin otter and only five hundred thousand for a nomad.
You would need to compare the GAF Nomad N24 with a de Havilland DHC6 Series 100/200. The Twin Otter is a slightly larger aircraft, more robust, better engines, simple fixed undercarriage around 850 built and now back in production again.
The Nomad was designed by a committee of public servants, fitted with helicopter engines and the Australian military thought so highly of the Nomad that they donated most to them to the Philippines and Indonesian military.
Tinpis, I said the Y12 - not Y11!
And those 9-cylinder air-cooled radial engines were only 213 kW (285 hp) each.
5 hour stretches in this would be painful
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Spoke to an ex ATO (Nomad) Pilot today.
It was suggested that the aircraft would go past VNE within 10 seconds of a vertical dive and contrary to my earlier comment whilst you could try beta you would tear the engines off her apparently if you tried. (certainly can try zero thrust) He said based on this, the circumstances leading to that photo of ATO in a dive would be hard to come by!
The use of flaps in this beast was interesting given that the ailerons lower with them so anything more than 20 degrees could be quite challenging in gusty conditions if the "spoilers" weren't able to do the job.
Heard an interesting tale on what went on with the tail however I'll search and see if there's another thread on that before dragging it up again.
It was suggested that the aircraft would go past VNE within 10 seconds of a vertical dive and contrary to my earlier comment whilst you could try beta you would tear the engines off her apparently if you tried. (certainly can try zero thrust) He said based on this, the circumstances leading to that photo of ATO in a dive would be hard to come by!
The use of flaps in this beast was interesting given that the ailerons lower with them so anything more than 20 degrees could be quite challenging in gusty conditions if the "spoilers" weren't able to do the job.
Heard an interesting tale on what went on with the tail however I'll search and see if there's another thread on that before dragging it up again.
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It was suggested that the aircraft would go past VNE within 10 seconds of a vertical dive and contrary to my
