Jobs on a farm?!?!
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Jobs on a farm?!?!
Hey guys,
I have been told that there are stations/farms in WA which help PPL people hour build by working on the farm and use their planes for cattle spotting, supplies and such. This sounds interesting and would like to know where i can find such a job.
Any suggestion?
I have been told that there are stations/farms in WA which help PPL people hour build by working on the farm and use their planes for cattle spotting, supplies and such. This sounds interesting and would like to know where i can find such a job.
Any suggestion?
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Start with a mustering rating and low level rating. Ashley Dowden (I think) At Challor Station in Mt Magnet will be a good place to start lookin. Other than that Try calling around the pasterolists and keep a look out in the Elders weekly or put an add in it.
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I happen to know AAco are advertising for a pilot based in western queensland if you're looking a little further out of WA. Go to the company website and you will find more details. Also try S.Kidman and Co. i believe there's a position vacant there too. PM me if u want more details.
No mention of aircraft type or licence required for AA position.
Give them a call.
I think they also have a C206 / B58 and a rumour doing the rounds of a PC12 soon to arrive.
Give them a call.
I think they also have a C206 / B58 and a rumour doing the rounds of a PC12 soon to arrive.
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With a ppl you can NOT fly for hire and reward.
But if you are employed as a jackaroo, who das general stationwork, and happen to have a ppl i think you can do the things like bore runs etc.
other people might have better ideas?
But you CANNOT be hired as a pilot.
But if you are employed as a jackaroo, who das general stationwork, and happen to have a ppl i think you can do the things like bore runs etc.
other people might have better ideas?
But you CANNOT be hired as a pilot.
SO long as your being paid as a station hand and the flying being done is either around the owners land or your flying the owner of the aircraft itself you'll be just fine. Might i suggest picking up some law books to take a look over? All you need is in there in regards to legality.
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Do not, under any circumstances, be tempted into mustering without the appropriate training and ratings.
Station owners WILL try you out and tell you its OK. It WILL jump up and bite you on the ass, and in all likelihood kill you.
Get the station owners to pay and have you trained up so you will not run afoul of the law and stay alive.
Station owners WILL try you out and tell you its OK. It WILL jump up and bite you on the ass, and in all likelihood kill you.
Get the station owners to pay and have you trained up so you will not run afoul of the law and stay alive.
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Station Flying
My first job many years ago was as a station pilot for a company called North Australian Pastural Company (NAPCO) in western Queensland. It was some of the best flying I've ever done, and you'll quickly learn alot about your own limitations and the importance of good stick and rudder skills. The aircraft weren't in the best nick, but it's great experiance for a low time pilot. Like previous posters have said make sure you get the right training from an experianced low level training provider, as it might just save your life.
Other companies you might like to try are stanbroke pastural, AAco, Sam kidman and some of the private cattle stations in Qld and the NT. You won't have a problem with only having a ppl as most station op's are considered private operations.
Hope it helps.
Other companies you might like to try are stanbroke pastural, AAco, Sam kidman and some of the private cattle stations in Qld and the NT. You won't have a problem with only having a ppl as most station op's are considered private operations.
Hope it helps.
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i had a job on a station flying a c206 near windorah, qld, at a station called tanbar. i lasted for about 2 weeks, in the end told the manager to go get ****ed.
i was told 500-600hrs per yr, was only getting 5 a week, and working 5am - 5pm 5-6days a week for around $120 a day, or $10/hr if u work it out.
when i wasnt flying i was told i would be the "gardener" which i was fine with, only to find them asking me to clean their showers and toilets, to scoop up their horse and cow ****, to fix cattle troughs, to clean up the social room floor which gets covered in ciggie buts and beer cans at the end of every day, and to go pick up broken fence posts in the middle of the ****ing desert
not to mention the manager was a complete ****** who yelled at you while flying, and decided to take over the controls. oh yeh and i shouldnt forget when he told me not to bother earthing the fuel to the a/c when refuelling, because it was a stupid rule. so i of course get in trouble, when i use my innitiative to make some earthing eq.
the list goes on, and the job was recently advertised on afap again, as southwest qld cattle property, so i would stay well clear if i was you. and also the aircon in the pilot house doesnt work, despite it saying it does on afap
be careful when applying for station jobs people, and dont be afraid to stand up for yourself and tell them to get ****ed !
i was told 500-600hrs per yr, was only getting 5 a week, and working 5am - 5pm 5-6days a week for around $120 a day, or $10/hr if u work it out.
when i wasnt flying i was told i would be the "gardener" which i was fine with, only to find them asking me to clean their showers and toilets, to scoop up their horse and cow ****, to fix cattle troughs, to clean up the social room floor which gets covered in ciggie buts and beer cans at the end of every day, and to go pick up broken fence posts in the middle of the ****ing desert
not to mention the manager was a complete ****** who yelled at you while flying, and decided to take over the controls. oh yeh and i shouldnt forget when he told me not to bother earthing the fuel to the a/c when refuelling, because it was a stupid rule. so i of course get in trouble, when i use my innitiative to make some earthing eq.
the list goes on, and the job was recently advertised on afap again, as southwest qld cattle property, so i would stay well clear if i was you. and also the aircon in the pilot house doesnt work, despite it saying it does on afap
be careful when applying for station jobs people, and dont be afraid to stand up for yourself and tell them to get ****ed !
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As long as you realise that station flying is in fact only roughly 20% of the work you do, you are fine. Under no circumstances should you go into the outback expecting to be used only as a pilot. Each station and company is different when it comes to what other duties they expect their pilot to do. I personally enjoyed the experience of getting to join in the with ringers and 'get my hands dirty'. It's by no means a cruisy job, you work from sun up to 5-6pm and it's best not to work out your hourly rate but rather look at the fact that your board and food are free, then u get all that money to save for your cpl/MEIR or whatever.
I agree though, it's best to know your limitations and be confident to stand up to some of the p****s who think they know when you should be flying and when not.
All in all, great flying experience. Just remember, low level flying is only as dangerous as you make it. You DON'T have to be an aerobatic pilot if you don't want to be
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p.s. kidman is all 172's and AACo. 2 172's, 2 206's, a baron and perhaps a PC12 on the way. PPL not an issue for either, kidman will also provide training.
I agree though, it's best to know your limitations and be confident to stand up to some of the p****s who think they know when you should be flying and when not.
All in all, great flying experience. Just remember, low level flying is only as dangerous as you make it. You DON'T have to be an aerobatic pilot if you don't want to be
.p.s. kidman is all 172's and AACo. 2 172's, 2 206's, a baron and perhaps a PC12 on the way. PPL not an issue for either, kidman will also provide training.
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kidman will not employ PPL pilots as one guy unfortunately lost his life and another crashed in the space of a week, so to the best of my knowledge since then only CPL are considered.
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good on ya beaver mate
have the balls and stand up for yourself
BR was a great bloke, never had any problems with him, PW was a ******, and FYI the pilot before me lasted 2 months, and the pilot before her only 2 weeks, and he just happens to work in the same company as me now. and gee, he said exactly the same thing as me!
walked onto a 210 after doing 10.1 hrs in SJE
and i have mates who work for WG at other stations, and they all love it, tanbar was just run by an idiot, and your the first person I have heard who actually likes him, so good on ya for doing the suck up
and your telling me to get get life skills, when i moved out of home and worked fulltime for 3 years to pay for my flying training? **** you moron
have the balls and stand up for yourself
BR was a great bloke, never had any problems with him, PW was a ******, and FYI the pilot before me lasted 2 months, and the pilot before her only 2 weeks, and he just happens to work in the same company as me now. and gee, he said exactly the same thing as me!
walked onto a 210 after doing 10.1 hrs in SJE
and i have mates who work for WG at other stations, and they all love it, tanbar was just run by an idiot, and your the first person I have heard who actually likes him, so good on ya for doing the suck up
and your telling me to get get life skills, when i moved out of home and worked fulltime for 3 years to pay for my flying training? **** you moron
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hey guys, i hear some good things about being station hand/pilot, can any one give me an email address i can contact people? i just got a reply from AACO and they require at least 400 hours. i have approx 150 
thanks for the above people who referred companies.
thanks for the above people who referred companies.
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Google this, and it will come up with sites from them, they specialise in mustering and mustering training as wel as low level endo's if i am correct.
Murchison Aviation
Also comes with the phone numbers off they lady and guy who run it.
they would be a wealth off info for you to talk to.
cheers
Murchison Aviation
Also comes with the phone numbers off they lady and guy who run it.
they would be a wealth off info for you to talk to.
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Never said I was a fan mate, i know he's a total nob, just saying to suck it up princess, it wasn't rocket science to just just put up with the **** in turn for some hours in your first start.
Sorry, you worked full-time to pay for your flying? Wow, you must be the first to have done that mate!! Congrats to you - qantas should name a plane after you.
Enough said
Sorry, you worked full-time to pay for your flying? Wow, you must be the first to have done that mate!! Congrats to you - qantas should name a plane after you.
Enough said
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Take it easy girls, I too payed for all my flying all by myself, can qantas name a plane after me to now? they will be running out off planes as plenty off people pay for there own licence without help from outside.
But i do agree that a lot off new bies have to suck it.
I sure sucked a lot off dust doing my time as a loader/mixer.
But boy were the nights in the pub fun!!!
But i do agree that a lot off new bies have to suck it.
I sure sucked a lot off dust doing my time as a loader/mixer.
But boy were the nights in the pub fun!!!
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FYI the pilot before me lasted 2 months, and the pilot before her only 2 weeks, and he just happens to work in the same company as me now. and gee, he said exactly the same thing as me!
If someone breaks their promises then treats you like crap for what is basically a ****kicker position like that one, then the best thing you could do is tell 'em to get f*%ked and find something better. Its not exactly hard to go find decent work as a bare CPL in the current climate. No point trading in you're dignity as a professional pilot for those kind of conditions.