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'virgindriver' yr spot on I reckon when it comes to QF hiring. It's the 'profile' of a pilot they seek, not the pilot in the pilot
Once upon a time you would have been lucky to get a PA34 gig with 500TT, now those no's mean zip!
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Once upon a time you would have been lucky to get a PA34 gig with 500TT, now those no's mean zip!
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There are plenty of Chopper drivers in QF (like me!) so don't be deterred. You would know that being a chopper driver, you have a vastly larger SA bubble and nicer control touch than pure fixed wing folks. This is why you only need 250 fixed wing to meet the minimums.
Runaway Gun: If you only last for 70 seconds, perhaps a better name would be Premature Gun......
Runaway Gun: If you only last for 70 seconds, perhaps a better name would be Premature Gun......
I know at least a couple had Jan-Mar letters.
I'm interested to know what the course numbers will be from Jan onwards. That will probably give a better idea of when those with LOIs will start.
I'm interested to know what the course numbers will be from Jan onwards. That will probably give a better idea of when those with LOIs will start.
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Arrrrhhhh!!
From the mouth of the recruitment manager MH......... NO COURSES until at least April but more than likely NONE until the new financial year........F@RKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!
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Qantas to reduce capacity
Lemel, the announcement was in regards to Qantas reducing capacity equivalent to grounding 10 aircraft - mainly due to the financial crisis. You can find more of the information here: About Qantas - Media Room - Media Releases
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So if it's all doom and gloom, why are they still interviewing? I know someone who had his sim and interview this week. Very strange. At this rate, there must be enough people with a LOI to fill courses until at least mid next year...assuming they still go ahead in a best case scenario.
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So if it's all doom and gloom, why are they still interviewing?
Qantas are planning to axe approx. 1500 workers. Whilst most of these will be overseas workers, there will be a few that will be clearing their desk in QCC3. The amount of Pilot Recruitment HR personnel that they have was definately needed 12 months ago during the 'boom'. Now that pilot recruitment has slowed by over 50%, the current amount of personnel in Pilot Recruitment HR is now not needed.
However, by maintaining the volume of guys coming in for testing / interviewing shows upper management that they themselves are still required, hence less chance of being made redundant.
They are just interviewing to save their own ass. When your involved in the HR industry and u are made redundant, its very hard and longful to find your next employer. I can assure you that those HR people are fearing their jobs. Hence they are keeping their productivity high to save face.
But they do have a valid arguement for when upper management ask 'why are u still required?' - because the larger the volume of candiates coming in for interviews / tests, the larger the choice of suitable candidates, and at a time when they are offering employment in lessor amounts, it will become very hard (just like the old days) of now getting a job, but at least Pilot Recruitment will offer jobs to the right candidates and hence their positions are justified.
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The only reason you gave that makes any sense is that in the last paragraph - which I'm sure most of us have already thought of as a possible scenario. Even that being the case, it still doesn't make sense to have wasted a years worth of time and resources. In the past they have filled the hold file with enough 'suitable' candidates and graded them accordingly. If that is happening now, the only reason there can be for additional testing is that they don't feel they have enough people on a hold file yet to fully supply potential courses once the revised numbers come out for the next year or so - even if that happens month by month. To me, that is contradictory of the whole 'no courses until next financial year' which was the original point of my question. If they have enough people on hold, why are they still interviewing? The point I'm making is that maybe the fact that they're still testing is a good sign.
I don't for one second believe that the gang in pilot recruitment have the authority to conduct more testing and interviewing if the need isn't there. Wouldn't they be then having to justify why they are directing resources (read: $$) towards something that isn't needed? They didn't do testing for 2 years from between mid 2005 - mid 2007 because they didn't need to and they didn't have to 'justify their jobs' then. On top of that, they are understaffed already just looking after the cadet program. .
As for 'Jesus, work it out', I think that unless you personally have insider knowledge, your silly little theory of people fearing for their jobs is a bit of a stretch and not exactly rock solid information, nor incredibly obvious to most people. I guess you're just smarter than the average bear huh?
I don't for one second believe that the gang in pilot recruitment have the authority to conduct more testing and interviewing if the need isn't there. Wouldn't they be then having to justify why they are directing resources (read: $$) towards something that isn't needed? They didn't do testing for 2 years from between mid 2005 - mid 2007 because they didn't need to and they didn't have to 'justify their jobs' then. On top of that, they are understaffed already just looking after the cadet program. .
As for 'Jesus, work it out', I think that unless you personally have insider knowledge, your silly little theory of people fearing for their jobs is a bit of a stretch and not exactly rock solid information, nor incredibly obvious to most people. I guess you're just smarter than the average bear huh?
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Letters of intent are a new thing and were designed to stop QF applicants running off and being offered jobs elsewhere. Now there are no jobs elsewhere and the numbers applying to QF are expanding- due to lack of jobs elsewhere- then QF is probably getting a 'hold file' again. That is, they'll keep interviewing people and just keep taking the top dozen applicants on the hold file. When you've been through the testing you're not competing with 30 others for a particular course, you're competing with those already on the hold file.
Of course, this is purely my take on it. I could be 100% wrong but given how quickly things turn around in aviation it wouldn't surprise me if QF is just making sure that they're not going to get caught short again any time soon.
Of course, this is purely my take on it. I could be 100% wrong but given how quickly things turn around in aviation it wouldn't surprise me if QF is just making sure that they're not going to get caught short again any time soon.
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Dragun - I really have no idea why they are still recruiting, but hey this is a rumour network and that was my 2 cents worth (slightly outrageous theory) but u never know?
- no offence by that, just wanted to catch attention in the opening line 
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Jesus Dragun mate, work it out
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I'm not sure what's so complex about it?
Recruitment has been suspended for a number of months, but they'll continue to interview/assess in order to fill up their hold file 'pool'. When recruitment resumes, they'll take the top x candidates from the pool. The idea is to maximise the size of the pool so they can pick and choose, and not be forced to take those candidates who just scraped in.
They've done this for many years, and will continue to do so.
Recruitment has been suspended for a number of months, but they'll continue to interview/assess in order to fill up their hold file 'pool'. When recruitment resumes, they'll take the top x candidates from the pool. The idea is to maximise the size of the pool so they can pick and choose, and not be forced to take those candidates who just scraped in.
They've done this for many years, and will continue to do so.