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Qantaslink puts their recruiting on "active hold"!
Rumor has it that they are switching training providers at the moment and they want to clear out the backlog that they are currently experiencing before bringing in more people. Also since they have experienced numerous problems with the foundation course's of cadets (tail strikes and all) they have cut any future courses of those out entirely. Expect fewer traineeships in the future with the emphasis being placed back on direct entry(as it should be!).
I've heard UNSW aviation might be getting that contract. Although lord knows how, as they currently do not possess any simulators or any type of airline transition training... will be interesting to see what happens.
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I've heard UNSW aviation might be getting that contract. Although lord knows how, as they currently do not possess any simulators or any type of airline transition training... will be interesting to see what happens.
Humbly.
Rumor has it that they are switching training providers at the moment and they want to clear out the backlog that they are currently experiencing before bringing in more people. Also since they have experienced numerous problems with the foundation course's of cadets (tail strikes and all) they have cut any future courses of those out entirely. Expect fewer traineeships in the future with the emphasis being placed back on direct entry(as it should be!).
I've heard UNSW aviation might be getting that contract. Although lord knows how, as they currently do not possess any simulators or any type of airline transition training... will be interesting to see what happens.
I've heard UNSW aviation might be getting that contract. Although lord knows how, as they currently do not possess any simulators or any type of airline transition training... will be interesting to see what happens.
Secondly, whilst I do not wish to begin the cadet/traineeship vs direct entry debate yet again, there is no evidence to suggest that trainees/cadets are anymore or less competent than direct entry (primarily from a manipulative skill base) after all I don't know too many direct entry guys that have flown 29 tonne Baron's around.
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Happy, please read the post more carefully. I have seen the emails sent that state the foundation course was being axed due to some problems caused....This is not the Traineeship which is an entirely different course. At the moment the Traineeship has been put on hold due to pilot demand, training supply and training restructure.
In all fairness I believe that a person should be hired based off aptitude not years of service. However, for some years now there has been discrimintation against direct entry guys in favor of these course's candidates, but thats another story...
As of last week, an internal email was sent around notifying all those concerned that all recruiting is on hold till July this year, and ground schools will be run 1/2 as often with traineeships not resuming for at least a year.
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In all fairness I believe that a person should be hired based off aptitude not years of service. However, for some years now there has been discrimintation against direct entry guys in favor of these course's candidates, but thats another story...
As of last week, an internal email was sent around notifying all those concerned that all recruiting is on hold till July this year, and ground schools will be run 1/2 as often with traineeships not resuming for at least a year.
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Over 4 months since the last update on this, anything new?
Any ideas to start intakes again for Advanced Traineeship?
Will we ever see the foundation course run again?
Direct Entry?
Expecting much future growth etc?
Any ideas to start intakes again for Advanced Traineeship?
Will we ever see the foundation course run again?
Direct Entry?
Expecting much future growth etc?
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SN, are you implying the hold file has been emptied? Would be good to know either way after the last 8 months on hold. If that's the case we can chalk this one up to experience and move on.
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In case you guys haven't noticed the industry is actually contracting. None of the majors are making money and those companies who are, are tightening their belts. Unless some money is found and given to the monkey organ grinder, the music won't be starting for some time yet.
Ask the fellas who are on the VA hold file how long a piece of string is...(8+ years for a command there)
Ask the QF guys who have been captains for 15 years getting DEMOTED or taking up redundancies...(most junior captain I believe has a start date of '98 or something around that ball park)
QLink is beginning to see a small surplus of pilots due to the acceleration of retirements of the classic fleet and no replacement Q400s. Last new ship arrives from Canada soonish (and therein closes the order book with Bombardier for now) with two -200's been sold to a leasing company and about to depart our shores. A -300 has been removed from MEL and the classic crews there have been told of 'other opportunities'.
Starting to see a picture here?
The industry is going through a 'correction' in economic terms, as to when and how it improves, guess that's the mystery isn't it?
In a nutshell, look at the big picture and don't be so impatient!
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Ask the fellas who are on the VA hold file how long a piece of string is...(8+ years for a command there)
Ask the QF guys who have been captains for 15 years getting DEMOTED or taking up redundancies...(most junior captain I believe has a start date of '98 or something around that ball park)
QLink is beginning to see a small surplus of pilots due to the acceleration of retirements of the classic fleet and no replacement Q400s. Last new ship arrives from Canada soonish (and therein closes the order book with Bombardier for now) with two -200's been sold to a leasing company and about to depart our shores. A -300 has been removed from MEL and the classic crews there have been told of 'other opportunities'.
Starting to see a picture here?
The industry is going through a 'correction' in economic terms, as to when and how it improves, guess that's the mystery isn't it?
In a nutshell, look at the big picture and don't be so impatient!
Fuel-Off
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Thanks Fuel-Off, duly noted. It was not my intent to appear impatient, quiet the opposite - the ONLY reason I sought any guidance on the matter was so I could further evaluate my commitment to the operator I am currently working for if there was a likelihood that nothing will eventuate at QLink (I make this statement based on the impression that the company went a little cold on the idea of trainees around the time of my traineeship.) My current employer has been extremely accommodating given that there may be the possibility of me being out the door, and I would like to give him some ROI if it looked like a long term prospect.
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I would have to agree with Fuel- Off, QLink seems to be contracting at the moment, selling aircraft without replacing them, not many pilots leaving due to a general lack of recruiting onto jets by VA and JQ either. To be honest I think the pilot shortage is now well behind us. Anyone who wants a jet job now has to pretty much go O/S to get a start on anything worth while.
There may well be a hold file and they may take a few here and there but that's about it. To me it looks like they are overstaffed especially in QLD but then again I don't run the show.
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I would have to agree with Fuel- Off, QLink seems to be contracting at the moment, selling aircraft without replacing them, not many pilots leaving due to a general lack of recruiting onto jets by VA and JQ either. To be honest I think the pilot shortage is now well behind us. Anyone who wants a jet job now has to pretty much go O/S to get a start on anything worth while.
There may well be a hold file and they may take a few here and there but that's about it. To me it looks like they are overstaffed especially in QLD but then again I don't run the show.
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Any rumours as to what's happening with Direct Entry recruitment for 2015? Is there a hold file? Heard a few rumours that some bases/fleets are short on drivers. Also heard the cadets haven't worked out as well as planned.
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Agree with Going Nowhere & Soup, surplus at present. However, with the recent changes you can add many more to the un-happy dash driver list. Recent ex dash drivers have left to Jet Connect, Skippers, Network, Cathay and Flydubai. Believe it or not there has been movement in the VA hold file for S/O 777 and some lucky individuals direct B737 (NZ basing however) not to sure if any dash drivers? There are many more eager to move on with the current 'network changes'. Hopefully with this projected attrition redundancies will be avoided in the near future and the surplus can be effectively mitigated. But unless you have a space shuttle type rating with 3 moon landings in the last 90 days, I wouldn't count on the chances for an interview at qlk any time soon.
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Who know's, that will depend on the state of the economy. The euro zone seems to be on the downhill run still and the US may get sucked into that as well. If all goes well I would say we are looking at no airline growth in Australia for around two years or so, just consolidation, little if any bulk employing. Any real employment will be in Asia if your up for it. The biggest problem we have in Australia is not so much the lack of employment, as big of a problem as that is, but its the quality of the employment that is ultimately attainable.
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Who know's, that will depend on the state of the economy. The euro zone seems to be on the downhill run still and the US may get sucked into that as well. If all goes well I would say we are looking at no airline growth in Australia for around two years or so, just consolidation, little if any bulk employing. Any real employment will be in Asia if your up for it. The biggest problem we have in Australia is not so much the lack of employment, as big of a problem as that is, but its the quality of the employment that is ultimately attainable.
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Who know's, that will depend on the state of the economy. The euro zone seems to be on the downhill run still and the US may get sucked into that as well. If all goes well I would say we are looking at no airline growth in Australia for around two years or so, just consolidation, little if any bulk employing. Any real employment will be in Asia if your up for it. The biggest problem we have in Australia is not so much the lack of employment, as big of a problem as that is, but its the quality of the employment that is ultimately attainable.
SN
Who know's, that will depend on the state of the economy. The euro zone seems to be on the downhill run still and the US may get sucked into that as well. If all goes well I would say we are looking at no airline growth in Australia for around two years or so, just consolidation, little if any bulk employing. Any real employment will be in Asia if your up for it. The biggest problem we have in Australia is not so much the lack of employment, as big of a problem as that is, but its the quality of the employment that is ultimately attainable.
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Came across this today: UNSW to offer ?QantasLink approved? pilot training scheme | Australian Aviation
Now I don't fly for an airline and by the looks of it the finer details are yet to be released, but I would urge anyone looking at this training program to not place their bets on getting a job at the end.
I know guys who completed the QantasLink cadetship and it's now been roughly 18 months since completion with still no position in sight. Now they've got this new trainee pipeline as well.
Now I don't fly for an airline and by the looks of it the finer details are yet to be released, but I would urge anyone looking at this training program to not place their bets on getting a job at the end.
I know guys who completed the QantasLink cadetship and it's now been roughly 18 months since completion with still no position in sight. Now they've got this new trainee pipeline as well.
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What's the latest employment prospects with Qlink? They seem to be advertising briefly, then the ad disappears for a few weeks and then reappears again. This is their latest ad but with a slight adjustment in their minimums where they now accept 250 hours or greater as a co-pilot in a multi-engine turbine, multi-crew aircraft.
https://qantas.taleo.net/careersecti.../jobdetail.ftl
So, are they still interviewing?
https://qantas.taleo.net/careersecti.../jobdetail.ftl
So, are they still interviewing?