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New Zealanders working for Qantas
I'm keen to talk to any NZ pilots who have been accepted into the Qlink traineeship. Just wanting to talk about exams to be sat, notes etc. I have some ATPL's and IREX, Aus Air law to sit before starting in December. Send me a message. Cheers
Has anyone heard anything post the June 19th cutoff regarding the compeditiveness of their applications? It was applicable to all those who had applied but not commenced any of the online testing yet.
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Not yet but Dave Morgan did say Air NZ were to start a cadet type program through third party providers in the next year.
Air New Zealand is to establish an aviation academy to develop and nurture home-grown pilots, cabin crew, engineers and specialist airline management staff.
Air New Zealand General Manager Airline Operations and Safety Captain David Morgan said planning was well underway for the Air New Zealand Aviation Academy.
Captain Morgan, who is also Air New Zealand's Chief Pilot, said the academy was being set up to ensure the steady flow of local talent into Air New Zealand and other airlines within the Asia Pacific region.
In the highly competitive aviation industry, Captain Morgan said it was important to ensure that Air New Zealand had the best people available to support its future growth plans.
"The academy will form the basis of Air New Zealand's long-term commitment to continuing to build a world-leading airline through a highly skilled and motivated workforce which sees real career prospects and a future in New Zealand."
"We already operate a very successful training school offering engineering, tourism and travel programmes. This is an opportunity for us to build on that and create in New Zealand an internationally-recognised and accredited aviation academy that will meet the future needs of Air New Zealand and other airline operators in our region," he says.
Air New Zealand is to establish an aviation academy to develop and nurture home-grown pilots, cabin crew, engineers and specialist airline management staff.
Air New Zealand General Manager Airline Operations and Safety Captain David Morgan said planning was well underway for the Air New Zealand Aviation Academy.
Captain Morgan, who is also Air New Zealand's Chief Pilot, said the academy was being set up to ensure the steady flow of local talent into Air New Zealand and other airlines within the Asia Pacific region.
In the highly competitive aviation industry, Captain Morgan said it was important to ensure that Air New Zealand had the best people available to support its future growth plans.
"The academy will form the basis of Air New Zealand's long-term commitment to continuing to build a world-leading airline through a highly skilled and motivated workforce which sees real career prospects and a future in New Zealand."
"We already operate a very successful training school offering engineering, tourism and travel programmes. This is an opportunity for us to build on that and create in New Zealand an internationally-recognised and accredited aviation academy that will meet the future needs of Air New Zealand and other airline operators in our region," he says.
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Anyone on the course now or completed it recently know if it is worthwile/required that we purchase our own AIP/ERSA/DAPs/ERC/TAC/PCA ??
I'll need them for the ATPL law but its a lot to spend for possibly a one off!
Thanks in advance .
I'll need them for the ATPL law but its a lot to spend for possibly a one off!
Thanks in advance .
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Psych Test
I've heard the practice QF test and the practice test on the SHL website are good, but yeah I am wondering the same thing...is there any other material out there that we can practice from? I'm worried about the maths Will it be all statistical with percentages and ratios?
Also, is it true there's no diagrammatic reasoning? No cubes and pattern sequencing? If this is the case my christmases have come all at once.
Sorry about all the questions. Would really appreciate some help!
Also, is it true there's no diagrammatic reasoning? No cubes and pattern sequencing? If this is the case my christmases have come all at once.
Sorry about all the questions. Would really appreciate some help!
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MotionPotion, you are correct, no cubes, command sequence, patterns etc. Just maths (yes lots of stats and tables ) and comprehension. Google should reveal some useful samples, not exactly like what you will get in the tests, but useful in getting the brain used to doing calculations quickly and accurately (both very important). Somewhere around page 4 of this thread (I think) there is a post outlining times and number of questions for each test. P.S. get a calculator with big buttons and display
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At the road show seminars they said that with Psychometric Assessment, you will initially do it at home online, but to stop you from getting 10 of your smartest mates around to help you, when you do get to stage 2 they will give you a smaller version the assessment to see if it matches with the one you did at home. And I’d say your chances would be slim of progressing through if the results don't match up!
At the road show seminars they said that with Psychometric Assessment, you will initially do it at home online, but to stop you from getting 10 of your smartest mates around to help you, when you do get to stage 2 they will give you a smaller version the assessment to see if it matches with the one you did at home. And I’d say your chances would be slim of progressing through if the results don't match up!
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if thats the case, why even do the tests from home? Why not just do them on the day? Are you sure they re-do the tests, looking at the sequence of events from an email i have regarding a stage 3 day. There is no mention of that. Just a Sim ride and a panel interview.
Also anyone else on for the 8th of July? Be could to catch up for a chat at the hotel the night before.
Also anyone else on for the 8th of July? Be could to catch up for a chat at the hotel the night before.
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Thanks Boundary Layer! I hope it's painless. Can't stop worrying about the maths!
Anyone got an idea why some of us are being called for an interview before doing the psych test? Probably to get through people more quickly I suppose...
Anyone got an idea why some of us are being called for an interview before doing the psych test? Probably to get through people more quickly I suppose...
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Just a quick note on the pshycometric testing. I have been through the process and through the interview stage. The testing is all on line, stage 1 is selection form the applications you submitted, stage 2 is the online testing if you are considered competitive.
Note that since day 1 the website has stated that there is a $195 fee involved with this and you complete this in Sydney. That is not the case and to the best of my knowledge the majority of the applicants since about late Feb-Mar have done the online testing.
The best way to answer these questions is by yourself and as quick as you can, this way QL wil get a better idea of who you are. There are about 140 questions in one part which relate directly to your personality and how you operate, handle stress, etc. There are other sections which are about comprehension and a mathematical section which requires quick calculations.
There is NO WAY to try and cheat this online testing. You can get 10 of your smartest mates with you when you do your testing, but if you are successful in making the interview after cheating on your testing, the results will stand out like dogs balls to the interviewers in the 45min interview when your responses to their in depth questioning DO NOT match your profile from the online testing.
Don't cheat your self, there really isnt much you can do here but be honest and try your best. Certianly practice the mathematical sections of practice testing if you can, but you can't fudge the personality section.
Note that since day 1 the website has stated that there is a $195 fee involved with this and you complete this in Sydney. That is not the case and to the best of my knowledge the majority of the applicants since about late Feb-Mar have done the online testing.
The best way to answer these questions is by yourself and as quick as you can, this way QL wil get a better idea of who you are. There are about 140 questions in one part which relate directly to your personality and how you operate, handle stress, etc. There are other sections which are about comprehension and a mathematical section which requires quick calculations.
There is NO WAY to try and cheat this online testing. You can get 10 of your smartest mates with you when you do your testing, but if you are successful in making the interview after cheating on your testing, the results will stand out like dogs balls to the interviewers in the 45min interview when your responses to their in depth questioning DO NOT match your profile from the online testing.
Don't cheat your self, there really isnt much you can do here but be honest and try your best. Certianly practice the mathematical sections of practice testing if you can, but you can't fudge the personality section.
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Hi guys . Curious with the amount of pilots being put off due to high oil prices .
11,500 expected to be laid off in the US alone with the first 2000 aready gone . Does Qantas link really need to be taking guys with no experiance anymore i mean it is only a matter of time before VB and J* layoff guys with virgin making a media statement yesterday stating there cutting flights ( though no job cuts yet ) . Apparently job applications around the globe are soaring with some pretty experianced guys in the market .
Things will only get worse in my opinion and i belive qanats link traineeship guys will be back in GA pretty quickly ( hope not for there sake )
Have i got the wrong end of the stick ? Anyone care to elaborate?
cheers
11,500 expected to be laid off in the US alone with the first 2000 aready gone . Does Qantas link really need to be taking guys with no experiance anymore i mean it is only a matter of time before VB and J* layoff guys with virgin making a media statement yesterday stating there cutting flights ( though no job cuts yet ) . Apparently job applications around the globe are soaring with some pretty experianced guys in the market .
Things will only get worse in my opinion and i belive qanats link traineeship guys will be back in GA pretty quickly ( hope not for there sake )
Have i got the wrong end of the stick ? Anyone care to elaborate?
cheers
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brns2....mate, your lookin fine for Direct...experience required
Experience (Direct)
* 700 hours total flying time.
* 250 hours Command or Co-Pilot of multi-engined, fixed wing aircraft
(excluding ICUS).
* Turbine experience is desirable but not compulsory.
It wouldnt matter if you applied for both even...at the end of the day, the only way the Capt will know if your Direct or Trainee is if he asks ya!
Put your Apps in and just put in it that your completing your ATPLS.
Cheers, PA
Experience (Direct)
* 700 hours total flying time.
* 250 hours Command or Co-Pilot of multi-engined, fixed wing aircraft
(excluding ICUS).
* Turbine experience is desirable but not compulsory.
It wouldnt matter if you applied for both even...at the end of the day, the only way the Capt will know if your Direct or Trainee is if he asks ya!
Put your Apps in and just put in it that your completing your ATPLS.
Cheers, PA
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mmmm....I may be going out of my depth now because I'm only just at the Multi stage myself (I have 750TT, 560 PIC NO TWIN)...I have spoken to a few company owners who have all said to be the most competitive you need a lot of PIC on twins...its your decision mate...personally I would still put the apps in...by the time its processed and you finally get to the initial training, you could have another 100 hours PIC up your sleeve...you also meet REX Reqs.
Good luck.
Cheers, PA
Good luck.
Cheers, PA
Just curious has anyone been through the direct entry F.O interview process recently and if so how long after did you hear one way or the other if you got in? Everyone seems to be talking about the traineeship and it seems to have gone all quiet on the direct entry front.
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Alice, from my perspective as a direct entry FO applicant, the direct entry scheme seems to be full on.
There were at least 3 x Stage 3 days in June and now 3 in July being the 3rd, 11th and 17th.
I believe you hear either 2 weeks or 3 weeks after Stage 3 if you progress.
BTW my Stage 2 was done on the internet. I think I was one of the first?
I hope this helps you.
There were at least 3 x Stage 3 days in June and now 3 in July being the 3rd, 11th and 17th.
I believe you hear either 2 weeks or 3 weeks after Stage 3 if you progress.
BTW my Stage 2 was done on the internet. I think I was one of the first?
I hope this helps you.