V Australia-Tell me it aint true! (Merged Thread)
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Maisk,
"They will have to pay every cent of that 210, and a bit more, to get myself and many others interested."
Well, then you obviously wont be working for them. I dont think any airline is in the habit of designing a pay scale around . . . . just you, my friend.
I know of "many others" from airlines such as SQ and EK that have applied and will accept the position if offered. A few from CX too.
There are not a huge number of positions available but they will easily fill them.
"They will have to pay every cent of that 210, and a bit more, to get myself and many others interested."
Well, then you obviously wont be working for them. I dont think any airline is in the habit of designing a pay scale around . . . . just you, my friend.
I know of "many others" from airlines such as SQ and EK that have applied and will accept the position if offered. A few from CX too.
There are not a huge number of positions available but they will easily fill them.
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I can't see it happening!
VA will have no problem crewing their aircraft, if they don't get any experienced applicants they will just train up VB staff...
VA will have no problem crewing their aircraft, if they don't get any experienced applicants they will just train up VB staff...
B772, I assume that the ex AA guys are aware that they will have to get an Oz ATPL to crew the VA aircraft.
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I believe the only interviews at the moment are for Junior FO's... With that experience you will no doubt be contacted when they recruit for the other two roles after the JFO's are sorted.
Professor, The 210 was their figure not mine and the extra bit might come as a result of the question "Do you have any check and training experience". You clearly must be on the recruiting team if you can say "There are not a huge number of positions available but they will easily fill them." The figure of 120-150 pilots does sound like a fairly large number to me.
74world. I have been in your position before and beleive me when I say that repatriating to Australia aint what it is all cracked up to be. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. It should not be done at all costs. Look very hard at the financial aspects of it. Australia is up there with Europe now in terms of cost of living. Sometimes having a choice muddies our thinking. Good luck whichever way you go.
74world. I have been in your position before and beleive me when I say that repatriating to Australia aint what it is all cracked up to be. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. It should not be done at all costs. Look very hard at the financial aspects of it. Australia is up there with Europe now in terms of cost of living. Sometimes having a choice muddies our thinking. Good luck whichever way you go.
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Maisk
Could not agree more re repatriating to aus, a very dissapioniting experience after 5 years in europe. Things back here are much dearer and busier than they used to be, so why not have all the benifits of not living on the bottom of the world.
Could not agree more re repatriating to aus, a very dissapioniting experience after 5 years in europe. Things back here are much dearer and busier than they used to be, so why not have all the benifits of not living on the bottom of the world.
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Why is the web site still closed?
The web site is still closed so as an Oz expat with Oz ATPL, I can't apply!!
As for EMIRATES requirements for F/Os they only need Jet time and are hiring loads of regional jet guys with no heavy time. They had a short spell of only taking guys with heavy time about 4 years back. They are again taking DECs again.
$210K Oz after tax is very low for a 777 guy in the sand pit or HK but as stated a few near to retirement may give it a go.
As for the AA guys they still need a few exams and IR to convert, not as effortless as some make out. It is maybe easy but lots of hassle. Hope V don't go that way.
As for EMIRATES requirements for F/Os they only need Jet time and are hiring loads of regional jet guys with no heavy time. They had a short spell of only taking guys with heavy time about 4 years back. They are again taking DECs again.
$210K Oz after tax is very low for a 777 guy in the sand pit or HK but as stated a few near to retirement may give it a go.
As for the AA guys they still need a few exams and IR to convert, not as effortless as some make out. It is maybe easy but lots of hassle. Hope V don't go that way.
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Guys,
Received an email from V-Australia updating the recruitment situation - all very up market HR hype - than asking me to indicate my continued interest in the SFO position.
Here is an excerpt from my reply.......names changed to protect the guilty
Dear Maddie,
As discussed, when your office called me to verify and canvass my situation and circumstances, my current employment offers far greater employee benefits and better tax circumstances than could ever be contemplated by V-Australia and in Australia in general.
In addition, V-Australia's gracious offer of requiring me to fund my own type rating training, considering the experience you require, shows that V-Australia's management has a distorted view of the professional pilot fraternity and, with regard to my experience and type ratings held, absolutely no respect for that fraternity.
In consideration of the above, I could not and will not work under these perceived attitudes, expectations and conditions.
Yours thankfully
You can call me arrogant but as an expat that returns regulary to Oz, the repatriation requirement to work for V-Australia and all the associated costs.....well, lets just say I am exercising my right of choice.
Received an email from V-Australia updating the recruitment situation - all very up market HR hype - than asking me to indicate my continued interest in the SFO position.
Here is an excerpt from my reply.......names changed to protect the guilty
Dear Maddie,
As discussed, when your office called me to verify and canvass my situation and circumstances, my current employment offers far greater employee benefits and better tax circumstances than could ever be contemplated by V-Australia and in Australia in general.
In addition, V-Australia's gracious offer of requiring me to fund my own type rating training, considering the experience you require, shows that V-Australia's management has a distorted view of the professional pilot fraternity and, with regard to my experience and type ratings held, absolutely no respect for that fraternity.
In consideration of the above, I could not and will not work under these perceived attitudes, expectations and conditions.
Yours thankfully
You can call me arrogant but as an expat that returns regulary to Oz, the repatriation requirement to work for V-Australia and all the associated costs.....well, lets just say I am exercising my right of choice.
A lot has been said about the strategies for crewing Australian airline aircraft. One often rolled out is the recruitment of overseas labour. Particulary the employment of Direct Entry Captains.
Whether Domestic, International or even the Australian Regionals, the crewing of Australian aircraft will continue at an increasing level of difficulty untill such time that the mangements of these airlines choose to compete for labour.
FO Cokebottle's reply says it all.
Whether Domestic, International or even the Australian Regionals, the crewing of Australian aircraft will continue at an increasing level of difficulty untill such time that the mangements of these airlines choose to compete for labour.
FO Cokebottle's reply says it all.
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What is the going average pay scale for cruise FO on B777 overseas ?
Would the V Australia offer be that far off the mark if you had no jet experience at all ? ( VA offering 78k).
Would the V Australia offer be that far off the mark if you had no jet experience at all ? ( VA offering 78k).
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"What is the going average pay scale for cruise FO on B777 overseas ?"
Most airlines just have FO's (junior / senior / whatever). Cruise FO sounds like an SO to me. Compared to SO's at CX and NZ, Voz will be on par at the number you mention.
Voz cruise FO pay will even exceed the FO pay at many competing carriers in the region.
Most airlines just have FO's (junior / senior / whatever). Cruise FO sounds like an SO to me. Compared to SO's at CX and NZ, Voz will be on par at the number you mention.
Voz cruise FO pay will even exceed the FO pay at many competing carriers in the region.
Flew with a Brazilian the other day, he said that he had applied to V777 and the company had confirmed that the work permit/visa was not a problem. Plenty of former experienced Varig 777 drivers out there!
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Yeah, as much as I disagree with Pay-for-Training, I wouldn't have burned a bridge like that, if that's where you wanted to work. What if they change their policy? Do you think they'll call you?
By the way, I haven't applied, because I like my job too much to leave, so I have no agenda here.
By the way, I haven't applied, because I like my job too much to leave, so I have no agenda here.