Air NZ Link - Eagle Air
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Please bear in mind that this contract expires in Feb next year. But at the moment for a new F/O you would be looking at $37132 plus allowances which would amount to around the 6-7 k mark. For a new Captain, on year 1, it would be $48801 plus allowances.
When you do a command upgrade, under the existing contract, if you are on year 2 f/o pay you go to year 2 captains pay etc...
When you do a command upgrade, under the existing contract, if you are on year 2 f/o pay you go to year 2 captains pay etc...
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Thanks for the info , but please excuse my ignoarnce, but what contract do you mean, I've been out of the NZ loop for some time now and I'm looking at returning.
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BB
Thanks for the info , but please excuse my ignoarnce, but what contract do you mean, I've been out of the NZ loop for some time now and I'm looking at returning.
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BB,
AI refers to the Collective Employment Agreement, negotiated by the pilot group and ALPA effective Feb 2005 to Feb 2008.
All Air NZ link companies have a CEA, Air Nelson are re-negoitiating theirs at the moment, Eagle will be starting talks soon I guess, Mt. Cook has another year to run on theirs.
Further to AI's post, if you have all your ATPL subjects then you go straight to 3yr F/O pay, currently about $39,800K + allowances (and stay there till you complete 3 yrs or get a command upgrade), if you get a command upgrade in Yr 2 (highly likely) then you will go to actual time served Capt's pay i.e. if you start on Yr3 F/O because you have your subjects you will go to Yr 2 Capt in line with your actual time served. You of course get any annual CPI increases that are agreed to in the CEA, about 3%p.a.
Others financial items that are included:
transport allowance (to get you from home to the airport) = $1800p.a. approx
Uniform upkeep allowance (drycleaning) = $14/fortnight
Phone allowance (so they can call you when you're off duty) = $11 /fortnight
Meal Allowances (earned after each 4.5hrs Duty) = $17
Overnight Allowance = $105 approx (you have to eat dinner and in most cases breakfast from this)
Road Allowance = $0.62 /km (for self drive between bases if rostered)
Callouts (working on your days off / annual leave etc) = 1/175th of base salary
If you grossed up the tax-free allowances (all but callout from memory) then for a standard fortnight of 10 duties incl. 1 meal/duty, transport, uniform and phone then you can add $9.5K to your salary, any overnights and roads are extra, so basically equivalent $49.5K for a new F/O with subjects. Not a bad gig really for your first regional stint.
i enjoyed it immensely and but for a lack of preferred locations would maybe still be there waiting in line for Uncle Koru.... I recommend Eagle to any prospective wannabe
Good Luck
S2K
AI refers to the Collective Employment Agreement, negotiated by the pilot group and ALPA effective Feb 2005 to Feb 2008.
All Air NZ link companies have a CEA, Air Nelson are re-negoitiating theirs at the moment, Eagle will be starting talks soon I guess, Mt. Cook has another year to run on theirs.
Further to AI's post, if you have all your ATPL subjects then you go straight to 3yr F/O pay, currently about $39,800K + allowances (and stay there till you complete 3 yrs or get a command upgrade), if you get a command upgrade in Yr 2 (highly likely) then you will go to actual time served Capt's pay i.e. if you start on Yr3 F/O because you have your subjects you will go to Yr 2 Capt in line with your actual time served. You of course get any annual CPI increases that are agreed to in the CEA, about 3%p.a.
Others financial items that are included:
transport allowance (to get you from home to the airport) = $1800p.a. approx
Uniform upkeep allowance (drycleaning) = $14/fortnight
Phone allowance (so they can call you when you're off duty) = $11 /fortnight
Meal Allowances (earned after each 4.5hrs Duty) = $17
Overnight Allowance = $105 approx (you have to eat dinner and in most cases breakfast from this)
Road Allowance = $0.62 /km (for self drive between bases if rostered)
Callouts (working on your days off / annual leave etc) = 1/175th of base salary
If you grossed up the tax-free allowances (all but callout from memory) then for a standard fortnight of 10 duties incl. 1 meal/duty, transport, uniform and phone then you can add $9.5K to your salary, any overnights and roads are extra, so basically equivalent $49.5K for a new F/O with subjects. Not a bad gig really for your first regional stint.
i enjoyed it immensely and but for a lack of preferred locations would maybe still be there waiting in line for Uncle Koru.... I recommend Eagle to any prospective wannabe
Good Luck
S2K
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Thanks S2K
The reason I ask is because I had a phone call from their HR people the other day, no job offer mind you, just a touch base type of call and as I've been out of the NZ loop for sometime , its just good to see what the pay rates are, my only draw back is I don't have all the ATPL subjects yet. but breeze in with their hour requirements.
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The reason I ask is because I had a phone call from their HR people the other day, no job offer mind you, just a touch base type of call and as I've been out of the NZ loop for sometime , its just good to see what the pay rates are, my only draw back is I don't have all the ATPL subjects yet. but breeze in with their hour requirements.
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Kia orana Guys/girls...
Just wondering, do Eagle prefer Paper CV's, or are most of their candidates chosen from their StaffCV database?? I have an application with them and i have all ATPL's 1700TT 1350 multi turbine (bandit). Not a whisper from them yet..
Current job is okay, but the T&C's are getting ridiculous! damn beancounters...
Just wondering, do Eagle prefer Paper CV's, or are most of their candidates chosen from their StaffCV database?? I have an application with them and i have all ATPL's 1700TT 1350 multi turbine (bandit). Not a whisper from them yet..
Current job is okay, but the T&C's are getting ridiculous! damn beancounters...
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Just what i needed to know, cheers for the pay info, i got a call from Eagle last week for the interviews next month...good luck to all.
Raropilot, i just used staffcv and seemed to work. I have less hours than you so no reason why you wouldn't get a call, maybe soon buddy
Raropilot, i just used staffcv and seemed to work. I have less hours than you so no reason why you wouldn't get a call, maybe soon buddy
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Anyone else got the call up? I got one yesterday, but still deciding....Hard to near impossible for me to take leave in Dec due to it being our busiest time of year. Already short on staff aswell.
One question though:
I have all ATPL's and just 18 hrs short on night time for the hours requirements for an ATPL Flight test. Might be better to stay and do ATPL at current job? Then again, pay and allowances are better at Eagle by the looks of it.. What kind of salary am i looking at starting on?? 1700TT over 1350 multi turbine C-Cat etc..
One question though:
I have all ATPL's and just 18 hrs short on night time for the hours requirements for an ATPL Flight test. Might be better to stay and do ATPL at current job? Then again, pay and allowances are better at Eagle by the looks of it.. What kind of salary am i looking at starting on?? 1700TT over 1350 multi turbine C-Cat etc..
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Raropilot,
With ATPL subjects you would be on third year pay. FOs can typically expect to take home anywhere between $1350 and $1500 a fortnight. If you get rostered to use your own transport to get to another base for a shift or rostered an overnight then you can add about another $100 per car or overnight. I generally budget on about $1400 a fortnight. Can live quite comfortably in regional NZ on this money if you're single. Other pluses are good progression to command at the moment (about 12 months after being checked to line) and staff travel gets you around the country easily if you get sick of your home base on your days off. 99% of the pilots are good buggers too.
Cheers
With ATPL subjects you would be on third year pay. FOs can typically expect to take home anywhere between $1350 and $1500 a fortnight. If you get rostered to use your own transport to get to another base for a shift or rostered an overnight then you can add about another $100 per car or overnight. I generally budget on about $1400 a fortnight. Can live quite comfortably in regional NZ on this money if you're single. Other pluses are good progression to command at the moment (about 12 months after being checked to line) and staff travel gets you around the country easily if you get sick of your home base on your days off. 99% of the pilots are good buggers too.
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not exactly correct regarding the car... If you are to do a shift at another base and are required to drive there yourself, you will be reinbursed at a rate of 60 cents/km. Not $100 as has been stated.
As has been stated, generaly good bunch although there are at the moment a few fat head f/o's- relatively new to the company that think that they are above doing the job as per the SOP's, but thats another story.
If you get in and do the job it's pretty good, and pay is okay, just the checking system could do with a look-see tho, re chop checks each 6 months with no loft training prior to the day.
As has been stated, generaly good bunch although there are at the moment a few fat head f/o's- relatively new to the company that think that they are above doing the job as per the SOP's, but thats another story.
If you get in and do the job it's pretty good, and pay is okay, just the checking system could do with a look-see tho, re chop checks each 6 months with no loft training prior to the day.
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Raro,
With that time, why don't you just stick the summer out, do your ATPL and wait a couple of months for Air Nelson or Mt Cook to ring? Seems like a no brainer to me... Both are much better options in pay and fly a lot better aircraft to name a couple of the benefits.
With that time, why don't you just stick the summer out, do your ATPL and wait a couple of months for Air Nelson or Mt Cook to ring? Seems like a no brainer to me... Both are much better options in pay and fly a lot better aircraft to name a couple of the benefits.
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Raro,
As mentioned above with your hours I'd almost be inclined to stick it out and see what comes up early next year. Do you have an Oz licence?? There's seems to be strong suspicions around the traps that Oz and some NZ airlines will ramp up recruitment and close to 2000TT should get you a look in for an interview. Just a thought...
Always Inverted,
Yes you are quite correct re 62cents/km which generally equates to around $100 for return drive around the central north island e.g. HN-ROT- HN... Yet to do one of those lucrative Gisborne drives though.
As mentioned above with your hours I'd almost be inclined to stick it out and see what comes up early next year. Do you have an Oz licence?? There's seems to be strong suspicions around the traps that Oz and some NZ airlines will ramp up recruitment and close to 2000TT should get you a look in for an interview. Just a thought...
Always Inverted,
Yes you are quite correct re 62cents/km which generally equates to around $100 for return drive around the central north island e.g. HN-ROT- HN... Yet to do one of those lucrative Gisborne drives though.
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Chur chur for the replies dudes! !
Some good points there. My thoughts exactly in regards to sticking it out here for another few months... Eagle seems to be a great gig to start off with. But im kinda past the novelty of standing in the rain and briefing pax etc etc hahaha There is the upside of getting to chat up any lovely young ladies on board though
Have applied to Mt Cook, but no word yet. Gunning for Air NSN really, just need to finish off this application form and send away via snail mail. No shortage of references for EAG or NSN with lots of old instructor mates floating round in both companies.
Think i've got it sussed now! I'll just sit back in Raro for a bit longer until i get something a bit more lucrative..
One last thing - How long would one expect to be with NSN before a command at the moment??
Some good points there. My thoughts exactly in regards to sticking it out here for another few months... Eagle seems to be a great gig to start off with. But im kinda past the novelty of standing in the rain and briefing pax etc etc hahaha There is the upside of getting to chat up any lovely young ladies on board though
Have applied to Mt Cook, but no word yet. Gunning for Air NSN really, just need to finish off this application form and send away via snail mail. No shortage of references for EAG or NSN with lots of old instructor mates floating round in both companies.
Think i've got it sussed now! I'll just sit back in Raro for a bit longer until i get something a bit more lucrative..
One last thing - How long would one expect to be with NSN before a command at the moment??
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Good call Raro,
Ive finally been offered command on the islander so i'm sticking it out in the solly's for a while, but not before going back home soon for some much needed KFC!!. Did you manage to find out any info from NZ CAA about the 750 hrs total F'O time towards ATPL. Damn ill miss beta and reverse on these wet strips
Ive finally been offered command on the islander so i'm sticking it out in the solly's for a while, but not before going back home soon for some much needed KFC!!. Did you manage to find out any info from NZ CAA about the 750 hrs total F'O time towards ATPL. Damn ill miss beta and reverse on these wet strips
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There is the upside of getting to chat up any lovely young ladies on board though
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Shot YAX! good machine the islander. Bloody loud though i've heard from people who flew them at mountain air... Whats the Twotter like? Bandit is loudish. Speaking of KFC, i think i'll head down the road now and get a feed Taking a few days leave back in Auckland before the xmas rush in Dec
Well said, Gone down
Im gonna stick it out in Raro for a bit longer... Great lifestyle!
Taking a few days leave back in Auckland before the xmas rush in DecWell said, Gone down
Im gonna stick it out in Raro for a bit longer... Great lifestyle!