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No i dont like to use apostrophes because it lets you write something in your posts that i cannot rebut. You need to have some strengths in your arguement! JQ being a decent job is not one of them however
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Question4you2007,
How much do you think JQ FO's get paid.......$1.50 a day..
Mate you need to get your facts right before you sprout your obviously ignorant mouth off..
Most JQ FO's are making $100000 a year with as many as 16 days off a month...FACT!!!!!!!!!!!! more than a lot of QF S/O's....
Last time I spoke a virgin FO they were making prety much the same if not a lilltle more!!!!!
I'm not sure what the Skywest guys get paid, but I'll bet it's not close to this....
I take your a frustrated with the expansion of JQ pushing your time to command back a hell of a long way.....deal with I say..
If people want to have a lifestyle over money it's their choice, I wouldn't want to bring my family up in HK for all the tea in China!!!
How much do you think JQ FO's get paid.......$1.50 a day..
Mate you need to get your facts right before you sprout your obviously ignorant mouth off..
Most JQ FO's are making $100000 a year with as many as 16 days off a month...FACT!!!!!!!!!!!! more than a lot of QF S/O's....
Last time I spoke a virgin FO they were making prety much the same if not a lilltle more!!!!!
I'm not sure what the Skywest guys get paid, but I'll bet it's not close to this....
I take your a frustrated with the expansion of JQ pushing your time to command back a hell of a long way.....deal with I say..
If people want to have a lifestyle over money it's their choice, I wouldn't want to bring my family up in HK for all the tea in China!!!
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The Kavorka,
Why so angry mate? There is no need for name calling or insults here.
If MOST JQ FO's are making 100K and only work 14 days a month (as you say), then my mates there are getting shafted! My mates are working more like 3 weeks of the month for around 80K.
Even if JQ FO's are making 100K per year, that still leaves them 25K - 140K behind their brothers in mainline.
That still means they get paid less than Virgin FO's and work considerably harder for their money.
That still puts them 10K - 45K behind a QF second officer who gets more days at home. Infact the only QF SO's that they will earn more than are the ones that are on the training wage.
Ok Skywest FO's dont make 100K, but they have a much better life. More time off, and easier days at work.
From the tone of your post i take it you either fly for JQ, or you are a manager pretending to fly for JQ. Either way, as i said before, im not a JQ basher - i just want to see their rates of pay go up.
If you disagree with that ill assume you arent really a pilot.
If you want to insult me or call names i wont reply, but if you want to have a sensible debate i will be here.
Why so angry mate? There is no need for name calling or insults here.
If MOST JQ FO's are making 100K and only work 14 days a month (as you say), then my mates there are getting shafted! My mates are working more like 3 weeks of the month for around 80K.
Even if JQ FO's are making 100K per year, that still leaves them 25K - 140K behind their brothers in mainline.
That still means they get paid less than Virgin FO's and work considerably harder for their money.
That still puts them 10K - 45K behind a QF second officer who gets more days at home. Infact the only QF SO's that they will earn more than are the ones that are on the training wage.
Ok Skywest FO's dont make 100K, but they have a much better life. More time off, and easier days at work.
From the tone of your post i take it you either fly for JQ, or you are a manager pretending to fly for JQ. Either way, as i said before, im not a JQ basher - i just want to see their rates of pay go up.
If you disagree with that ill assume you arent really a pilot.
If you want to insult me or call names i wont reply, but if you want to have a sensible debate i will be here.
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Q4Y,
So your telling me that there are 737 fo's on $200000+, mate your dreaming..
I think you have spent to much time on your long trips JQ bashing and have been fed a lot of crap!!!
Saying VB and Skywest pilots have a better lifestyle, mate you have no idea. Have you spoken to a VB pilot, there is a lot of them very unhappy, look at other posts on this forum...
I have many friends at the RAT, non of whom are making anywhere near the coin you touting....
I can tell you it's a great lifestyle at JQ, working 15-18 days a month max, home every night to spend with my family and making around $1500-1700 per week...yes thats right...not the crap you are going on with...
Have you read other posts on this forum??? I recently read one saying that a lot of QF S/O's would be lucky to make $100000....and I have mates that are S/O's who confirm this..
P.S...how was your last landing!!!! mine was great!!!!!
So your telling me that there are 737 fo's on $200000+, mate your dreaming..
I think you have spent to much time on your long trips JQ bashing and have been fed a lot of crap!!!
Saying VB and Skywest pilots have a better lifestyle, mate you have no idea. Have you spoken to a VB pilot, there is a lot of them very unhappy, look at other posts on this forum...
I have many friends at the RAT, non of whom are making anywhere near the coin you touting....
I can tell you it's a great lifestyle at JQ, working 15-18 days a month max, home every night to spend with my family and making around $1500-1700 per week...yes thats right...not the crap you are going on with...
Have you read other posts on this forum??? I recently read one saying that a lot of QF S/O's would be lucky to make $100000....and I have mates that are S/O's who confirm this..
P.S...how was your last landing!!!! mine was great!!!!!
The Kavorka,
JQ FO (320) about 82,000 plus nothing
QF FO (737) about 84,000 plus hourly pay above 55 hrs (84000/660) per hr
QF SO (744) $61/hr for fist 6 months (not including PUIT), QF SO on 744 year 5 earns the same base hourly rate as a JQ FO.
VB FO (737) about $84,000 plus $10,000 retention bonus
CX DEFO SYD/MEL/ADL base $135,000 plus Oz Tax
CX SO wage HK base about HKD$380,000 plus HKD$14,000-26,000 housing allowance, take payable is very little.
A year 1 QF SO will have a higher priority than a 10 year JQ capt on staff travel.
As for choice, if you had one it would be CX, but with your attitude on here ....
JQ FO (320) about 82,000 plus nothing
QF FO (737) about 84,000 plus hourly pay above 55 hrs (84000/660) per hr
QF SO (744) $61/hr for fist 6 months (not including PUIT), QF SO on 744 year 5 earns the same base hourly rate as a JQ FO.
VB FO (737) about $84,000 plus $10,000 retention bonus
CX DEFO SYD/MEL/ADL base $135,000 plus Oz Tax
CX SO wage HK base about HKD$380,000 plus HKD$14,000-26,000 housing allowance, take payable is very little.
A year 1 QF SO will have a higher priority than a 10 year JQ capt on staff travel.
As for choice, if you had one it would be CX, but with your attitude on here ....
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Q FO (320) about 82,000 plus nothing
Actually wrong. About $85,000 plus $109ish per hour every hour over 75. (from memory). Someone did post the agreement a little while ago. These figures are for an A320 FO.
Kavorka. Doesn't seem you take PM's. Would like to PM you for a chat. Any chance you could enable PM?
Actually wrong. About $85,000 plus $109ish per hour every hour over 75. (from memory). Someone did post the agreement a little while ago. These figures are for an A320 FO.
Kavorka. Doesn't seem you take PM's. Would like to PM you for a chat. Any chance you could enable PM?
From the 2005 JQ agreement
Para 27.1.3 FO paid at 60% of captains wage
From table 1, narrow body captain wage between 1 Aug 2006 to 31 July 2007 is $136,860, 60% of that is $82,116.
Yes you can get $82,116/850 per hour above an average corrected of 75 hrs schedule time, but as the calculations are based upon SCHEDULE not time actually flown, the best you could do by schedule is 50 hrs per year if you fly schedule, if the flight time exceeds schedule time, they get closer to the 900 hrs a year which means zip in their pocket.
To earn $100,000 as claimed above, JQ would have to schedule the FOs to fly 1035 hours a year, last time I looked, CASA did not allow JQ to do that.
Para 27.1.3 FO paid at 60% of captains wage
From table 1, narrow body captain wage between 1 Aug 2006 to 31 July 2007 is $136,860, 60% of that is $82,116.
Yes you can get $82,116/850 per hour above an average corrected of 75 hrs schedule time, but as the calculations are based upon SCHEDULE not time actually flown, the best you could do by schedule is 50 hrs per year if you fly schedule, if the flight time exceeds schedule time, they get closer to the 900 hrs a year which means zip in their pocket.
To earn $100,000 as claimed above, JQ would have to schedule the FOs to fly 1035 hours a year, last time I looked, CASA did not allow JQ to do that.
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SWH,
You are wrong my friend.....another ill informed skygod I think..
Here are the facts.....
Base $82166 which equals $6847 per month plus $100 per hour after 75 hours....
Most guys are doing around 90 per month which equals $1500 extra, some doing 100, $2500 extra
I think you can do the maths from there....
Next time get your facts right!!!!!
You are wrong my friend.....another ill informed skygod I think..
Here are the facts.....
Base $82166 which equals $6847 per month plus $100 per hour after 75 hours....
Most guys are doing around 90 per month which equals $1500 extra, some doing 100, $2500 extra
I think you can do the maths from there....
Next time get your facts right!!!!!
The Kavorka,
I did check my facts with the copy of the Jetstar agreement held at the AFAP, hence I posted $82,116 p.a.. Can I remind you that you claimed "Most JQ FO's are making $100000 a year with as many as 16 days off a month...FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!", which one is correct ?
I might add, the CX FO rate for a guy in Australia is almost equivilant to the narrow body captains wage a Jetstar, Jetstar FOs are basically getting paid 60% of what a Cathay FO earns.
The Jetstar certified agreement does not give pilots 16 days off a month as you claim.
You cannot do 90hrs a month every calendar month, give a hint why, 90x12 = 1080 hrs...(hence what are the 7, 28, and 365 days rolling CASA limits ???) the best you can sustain in terms if "extra flying allowance" is 50 hrs in a rolling 12 month average of SCHEDULE time, and since you don’t get credit for flying less than schedule time, and any time over schedule time gets taken out of your 900 a year... you have a VERY limited scope ($4,830.50 is the yearly maximum on a sustained basis).
The "extra flying allowance" is currently annual salary/850, refer to 27.3.2 of your certified agreement, which is $96.61 per SCHEDULE hour (not time flown, a couple of holds, and long taxis a month you end up working for free), Can I remind you that you claimed "$100 per hour after 75 hours", which one is correct ?
You also failed to take into account the initial training of $33,000 which you have to pay, nor the command upgrade cost of $15,000, both of which are part of your certified agreement.
"I think you can do the maths from there...."
Umm, I did my reading and maths a some time ago...that I why I work for a company that does not bond me, I don’t have to pay for endorsements, I get paid based up the greater of schedule or actual, I get more time off than you, on a bad day I have to do more than one sector, pay less tax, have better staff benefits, decent crew meals and drinks, uniforms cleaned and ironed, a retirement fund that gets 25% of my salary in terms of contributions, full medical coverage worldwide, and F, J, and Y travel anywhere in the world.
I know which lifestyle is be sustained long term, and its not the life of a low cost airline pilot....
If this is how good your maths skills are, you could not calculate a descent profile to save yourself.
"Next time get your facts right!!!!!"
Unless the agreement held at the AFAP is incorrect and not current, I think that comment is a case of "hello pot I am kettle"...how long have you been with J* ?
Are you the Jetstar captain with just 500 hrs on a Partenavia and SFA total time telling the experienced FOs (you know the ones I mean, they had significant command time on jets prior to J*) how to do maths ??...some of the stories of that bloke are being laughed at bars all over the world....absolute tosser ...
I did check my facts with the copy of the Jetstar agreement held at the AFAP, hence I posted $82,116 p.a.. Can I remind you that you claimed "Most JQ FO's are making $100000 a year with as many as 16 days off a month...FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!", which one is correct ?
I might add, the CX FO rate for a guy in Australia is almost equivilant to the narrow body captains wage a Jetstar, Jetstar FOs are basically getting paid 60% of what a Cathay FO earns.
The Jetstar certified agreement does not give pilots 16 days off a month as you claim.
You cannot do 90hrs a month every calendar month, give a hint why, 90x12 = 1080 hrs...(hence what are the 7, 28, and 365 days rolling CASA limits ???) the best you can sustain in terms if "extra flying allowance" is 50 hrs in a rolling 12 month average of SCHEDULE time, and since you don’t get credit for flying less than schedule time, and any time over schedule time gets taken out of your 900 a year... you have a VERY limited scope ($4,830.50 is the yearly maximum on a sustained basis).
The "extra flying allowance" is currently annual salary/850, refer to 27.3.2 of your certified agreement, which is $96.61 per SCHEDULE hour (not time flown, a couple of holds, and long taxis a month you end up working for free), Can I remind you that you claimed "$100 per hour after 75 hours", which one is correct ?
You also failed to take into account the initial training of $33,000 which you have to pay, nor the command upgrade cost of $15,000, both of which are part of your certified agreement.
"I think you can do the maths from there...."
Umm, I did my reading and maths a some time ago...that I why I work for a company that does not bond me, I don’t have to pay for endorsements, I get paid based up the greater of schedule or actual, I get more time off than you, on a bad day I have to do more than one sector, pay less tax, have better staff benefits, decent crew meals and drinks, uniforms cleaned and ironed, a retirement fund that gets 25% of my salary in terms of contributions, full medical coverage worldwide, and F, J, and Y travel anywhere in the world.
I know which lifestyle is be sustained long term, and its not the life of a low cost airline pilot....
If this is how good your maths skills are, you could not calculate a descent profile to save yourself.
"Next time get your facts right!!!!!"
Unless the agreement held at the AFAP is incorrect and not current, I think that comment is a case of "hello pot I am kettle"...how long have you been with J* ?
Are you the Jetstar captain with just 500 hrs on a Partenavia and SFA total time telling the experienced FOs (you know the ones I mean, they had significant command time on jets prior to J*) how to do maths ??...some of the stories of that bloke are being laughed at bars all over the world....absolute tosser ...
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SWH, thanks for the support with dealing with this lunatic.
Kavorka:
QF B744 FO's make 225K - 240K. Hence my quote of 125K - 240K.
Maybe you are right that some DJ guys are unhappy, but i can promise you that after the gloss of flying a jet has worn off (12 - 24 months i'd say) you and your mates will be much more unhappy than any other pilot group in the country. "Why dont we get paid as much as them?", "why do we work more than them?", "Why do i have to have my days off overseas and never get to see my family?" (if you are on the A330)
If you think the JQ lifestyle is great you are obviously the IQ equivalent of a sultana. You might aswell go back to GA if that is what you think. Airline jobs are supposed to be well paid and provide an easy lifestyle! JQ does neither.
QF second officers once checked to line will make around 85K. After 18 months online they will make 110K - 150K.
I can see why you didnt get into CX, QF, DJ, EK or anywhere else. Its because you are angry and insane.
Kavorka:
QF B744 FO's make 225K - 240K. Hence my quote of 125K - 240K.
Maybe you are right that some DJ guys are unhappy, but i can promise you that after the gloss of flying a jet has worn off (12 - 24 months i'd say) you and your mates will be much more unhappy than any other pilot group in the country. "Why dont we get paid as much as them?", "why do we work more than them?", "Why do i have to have my days off overseas and never get to see my family?" (if you are on the A330)
If you think the JQ lifestyle is great you are obviously the IQ equivalent of a sultana. You might aswell go back to GA if that is what you think. Airline jobs are supposed to be well paid and provide an easy lifestyle! JQ does neither.
QF second officers once checked to line will make around 85K. After 18 months online they will make 110K - 150K.
I can see why you didnt get into CX, QF, DJ, EK or anywhere else. Its because you are angry and insane.
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Q4Y, SWH
Sounds like you were on the same cadet course together....
It does not cost JQ pilots anything to upgrade to command....(wrong againwit!!!!)
Jq pilots can fly 1000 hours a year....(wrong againwit!!!)
Most guys flying in my base around 6-7 hrs a day, and when I times that by 15 it equals 90+ (wrong againwit) Therefore earning an extra 1500-2500 a month for 10 months of the year...and guess that is around $100000
Rostered for 10 rdo's a month plus days free of duty, usually around 2-3, (see above!!!!)
You can say what you like about JQ pilots, most are very happy...home every night, great family life and guess what, I can pay my bills.
You compare JQ FO's to 74 FO's....it takes years at QF to get a spot on the 74 as an FO, so compare apples with apples...we are not QF pilots..
JQ is a LCC with lower cost base with lower wages across the board, in time pilots wages will rise along with the looming pilot shortage, and by then I'll be a Captain and you two will be still putting the Captain charts away whilst saying "what else can I do for you CAPTAIN!!!)
I knocked back at job at QF recently because I don't want to sit in the back seat for the next 5+ years..my choice, yes some QF SO's get paid more..but it's not always about that....I don't need a silver spoon in my mouth.
You two continually post absolute crap, you may have read the EBA, but by looking at your maths skills I don't need to ask how you came up with JQ pilots needing to pay for upgrades...
Maybe when Daddy paid for the Cadet course he should have enrolled you in extra maths and english lessons.....
Back to the subject, if people want to fly for JQ, QF, CX or VB, good on them.....Each job has it's good and bad points and people will choose what suits them...
Until you get your facts right don't bother slandering things you absolutley know nothing about.
I'm doing what I love to do and that's all that matters to me....
Sounds like you were on the same cadet course together....
It does not cost JQ pilots anything to upgrade to command....(wrong again
wit!!!!)Jq pilots can fly 1000 hours a year....(wrong again
wit!!!)Most guys flying in my base around 6-7 hrs a day, and when I times that by 15 it equals 90+ (wrong again
wit) Therefore earning an extra 1500-2500 a month for 10 months of the year...and guess that is around $100000Rostered for 10 rdo's a month plus days free of duty, usually around 2-3, (see above!!!!
)You can say what you like about JQ pilots, most are very happy...home every night, great family life and guess what, I can pay my bills.
You compare JQ FO's to 74 FO's....it takes years at QF to get a spot on the 74 as an FO, so compare apples with apples...we are not QF pilots..
JQ is a LCC with lower cost base with lower wages across the board, in time pilots wages will rise along with the looming pilot shortage, and by then I'll be a Captain and you two will be still putting the Captain charts away whilst saying "what else can I do for you CAPTAIN!!!)
I knocked back at job at QF recently because I don't want to sit in the back seat for the next 5+ years..my choice, yes some QF SO's get paid more..but it's not always about that....I don't need a silver spoon in my mouth.
You two continually post absolute crap, you may have read the EBA, but by looking at your maths skills I don't need to ask how you came up with JQ pilots needing to pay for upgrades...
Maybe when Daddy paid for the Cadet course he should have enrolled you in extra maths and english lessons.....
Back to the subject, if people want to fly for JQ, QF, CX or VB, good on them.....Each job has it's good and bad points and people will choose what suits them...
Until you get your facts right don't bother slandering things you absolutley know nothing about.
I'm doing what I love to do and that's all that matters to me....
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Remember, the strength flows from the Force. But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
"Sounds like you were on the same cadet course together...."
Not me, I did years in GA, and I don’t work for QF.
"It does not cost JQ pilots anything to upgrade to command....(wrong again wit!!!!)"
Refer to page 43 of your certified agreement, "Command upgrade on a previously endorsed aircraft $15,000", it is the line below $33,000 for the initial rating.
"Jq pilots can fly 1000 hours a year....(wrong again wit!!!)"
That is not part of the JQ certified agreement, and I might add that a CAO 48 exemption is not listed with CASA for Jetstar.(http://www.casa.gov.au/rules/exempt/index.htm)
"Most guys flying in my base around 6-7 hrs a day, and when I times that by 15 it equals 90+ (wrong again wit) Therefore earning an extra 1500-2500 a month for 10 months of the year...and guess that is around $100000"
It is not the amount you fly, it is what you are schedule to fly. The JQ certified agreement does not have you working only 10 months a year. If you do more than 75 hrs a month this year, it means next year you will be restricted, as I clearly said in my post, “sustained”.
"Rostered for 10 rdo's a month plus days free of duty, usually around 2-3, (see above!!!!)"
That is not part of the JQ certified agreement. JQ pilots under their agreement only get 9 days off at your home base in 6 roster periods, and 10 days off in 6 roster periods, so in 6 roster periods 19 days off, of which half at your home base, that is in your agreement para 25.1.3.
"You can say what you like about JQ pilots, most are very happy...home every night, great family life and guess what, I can pay my bills."
Are they ? why are so many leaving ?
"You compare JQ FO's to 74 FO's....it takes years at QF to get a spot on the 74 as an FO, so compare apples with apples...we are not QF pilots.."
May I ask when I made such a comparison ?
"I knocked back at job at QF recently because I don't want to sit in the back seat for the next 5+ years..my choice, yes some QF SO's get paid more..but it's not always about that....I don't need a silver spoon in my mouth."
You just said a few posts up that you are being paid more than a QF SO.
"JQ is a LCC with lower cost base with lower wages across the board, in time pilots wages will rise along with the looming pilot shortage, and by then I'll be a Captain and you two will be still putting the Captain charts away whilst saying "what else can I do for you CAPTAIN!!!)"
You have no idea what I do, or who I work for. I have worked most areas in GA from instructing, freight, charter, aeromedical…before I did airline flying.
"You two continually post absolute crap, you may have read the EBA, but by looking at your maths skills I don't need to ask how you came up with JQ pilots needing to pay for upgrades..."
Have I ? I have read the JQ certified agreement, and I have made reference to it, the person who seems unaware of its actual contents is you.
"Maybe when Daddy paid for the Cadet course he should have enrolled you in extra maths and english lessons....."
I was not a cadet...
"Until you get your facts right don't bother slandering things you absolutley know nothing about."
Use words that you know the meaning of...and learn to spell.
Not me, I did years in GA, and I don’t work for QF.
"It does not cost JQ pilots anything to upgrade to command....(wrong again wit!!!!)"
Refer to page 43 of your certified agreement, "Command upgrade on a previously endorsed aircraft $15,000", it is the line below $33,000 for the initial rating.
"Jq pilots can fly 1000 hours a year....(wrong again wit!!!)"
That is not part of the JQ certified agreement, and I might add that a CAO 48 exemption is not listed with CASA for Jetstar.(http://www.casa.gov.au/rules/exempt/index.htm)
"Most guys flying in my base around 6-7 hrs a day, and when I times that by 15 it equals 90+ (wrong again wit) Therefore earning an extra 1500-2500 a month for 10 months of the year...and guess that is around $100000"
It is not the amount you fly, it is what you are schedule to fly. The JQ certified agreement does not have you working only 10 months a year. If you do more than 75 hrs a month this year, it means next year you will be restricted, as I clearly said in my post, “sustained”.
"Rostered for 10 rdo's a month plus days free of duty, usually around 2-3, (see above!!!!)"
That is not part of the JQ certified agreement. JQ pilots under their agreement only get 9 days off at your home base in 6 roster periods, and 10 days off in 6 roster periods, so in 6 roster periods 19 days off, of which half at your home base, that is in your agreement para 25.1.3.
"You can say what you like about JQ pilots, most are very happy...home every night, great family life and guess what, I can pay my bills."
Are they ? why are so many leaving ?
"You compare JQ FO's to 74 FO's....it takes years at QF to get a spot on the 74 as an FO, so compare apples with apples...we are not QF pilots.."
May I ask when I made such a comparison ?
"I knocked back at job at QF recently because I don't want to sit in the back seat for the next 5+ years..my choice, yes some QF SO's get paid more..but it's not always about that....I don't need a silver spoon in my mouth."
You just said a few posts up that you are being paid more than a QF SO.
"JQ is a LCC with lower cost base with lower wages across the board, in time pilots wages will rise along with the looming pilot shortage, and by then I'll be a Captain and you two will be still putting the Captain charts away whilst saying "what else can I do for you CAPTAIN!!!)"
You have no idea what I do, or who I work for. I have worked most areas in GA from instructing, freight, charter, aeromedical…before I did airline flying.
"You two continually post absolute crap, you may have read the EBA, but by looking at your maths skills I don't need to ask how you came up with JQ pilots needing to pay for upgrades..."
Have I ? I have read the JQ certified agreement, and I have made reference to it, the person who seems unaware of its actual contents is you.
"Maybe when Daddy paid for the Cadet course he should have enrolled you in extra maths and english lessons....."
I was not a cadet...
"Until you get your facts right don't bother slandering things you absolutley know nothing about."
Use words that you know the meaning of...and learn to spell.
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SWH...
Learn to spell!!!!!Look at youhead "FAVOR", no such word, it's favour!!!!!!!!!! You w$#@%r!!!
The last 6 months I have made 8500-9500 gross per month...., I should know I can read my payslip, you really have no idea and you constant rant is moronic..
Give it a rest and go back to the hole you climbed out of!!!!
Learn to spell!!!!!Look at you
head "FAVOR", no such word, it's favour!!!!!!!!!! You w$#@%r!!!The last 6 months I have made 8500-9500 gross per month...., I should know I can read my payslip, you really have no idea and you constant rant is moronic..
Give it a rest and go back to the hole you climbed out of!!!!
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SWH,
Since you like quoting the JQ EBA, I refer you to section 3.8.2 in
Schedule 1, and can you please tell everyone what this says!!!!
Ah yes looks like I was right again...surprise, surprise!!!!!
Since you like quoting the JQ EBA, I refer you to section 3.8.2 in
Schedule 1, and can you please tell everyone what this says!!!!
Ah yes looks like I was right again...surprise, surprise!!!!!
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The title of Skygod doesn't fit well with most of us, who financed our flying(ourselves) , went through GA in some cases a lot longer than ideal and tried to meet a recruitment standard. However we did it, we did it. I for one applaud anyone who has the temerity to go through GA and get to the door of mainline Qantas to apply. For whatever reason most of us that pass through the door do view it as an achievement. Everyone will get to where they are supposed to be!
As for J* good luck to the pilots, I suspect the advent of AWA and direct entry Captains for the 787 will have a rather large impact on the benefits of working at J*.
Then again most of us at Q who aren't part of the "silk worm brigade" know what it is like to be undermined from within.
As for J* good luck to the pilots, I suspect the advent of AWA and direct entry Captains for the 787 will have a rather large impact on the benefits of working at J*.
Then again most of us at Q who aren't part of the "silk worm brigade" know what it is like to be undermined from within.