CX or JQ, what wouldyou take?
"The last 6 months I have made 8500-9500 gross per month...., I should know I can read my payslip, you really have no idea and you constant rant is moronic.."
How many hours have you flown and how many schedule hours have you had ?
Does that include allowances ?
What is the breakdown ?
"Give it a rest and go back to the hole you climbed out of!!!!"
Having to resort to personal attacks every post does not say much about the ability of the individual to have an intelligent discussion.
"Since you like quoting the JQ EBA, I refer you to section 3.8.2 in Schedule 1, and can you please tell everyone what this says!!!!"
The Jetstar certified agreement does not have a para 3.8.2 or a schedule 1.
How many hours have you flown and how many schedule hours have you had ?
Does that include allowances ?
What is the breakdown ?
"Give it a rest and go back to the hole you climbed out of!!!!"
Having to resort to personal attacks every post does not say much about the ability of the individual to have an intelligent discussion.
"Since you like quoting the JQ EBA, I refer you to section 3.8.2 in Schedule 1, and can you please tell everyone what this says!!!!"
The Jetstar certified agreement does not have a para 3.8.2 or a schedule 1.
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3.2.8 on the JQ eba says "pilots can fly 1000hrs a year...It is at the end of the agreement under shedule 1
Most guys I know at JQ are making the money TK mentioned.....
3.2.8 on the JQ eba says "pilots can fly 1000hrs a year...It is at the end of the agreement under shedule 1
Most guys I know at JQ are making the money TK mentioned.....
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I agree.......J* guys and gals can fly 1000 hrs a year, I did 940 last year and made $102,000 including very few allowances....
Plenty of o/t though
The continued JQ smashing is really quite boring...
Doesn't qantas have other companys with rat on the tail like Jitconnect and Nat Jet that get paid less than J* pilots...
Plenty of o/t though
The continued JQ smashing is really quite boring...
Doesn't qantas have other companys with rat on the tail like Jitconnect and Nat Jet that get paid less than J* pilots...
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All the numbers TK has mentioned are correct.....
I have recently spoken to a bunch of JQ guys and they seemed quite happy, although a little pissed off with mangement over this awa stuff.....
Vote 1 K.Rudd in oct and hopefully he will sort them out!!!
I have recently spoken to a bunch of JQ guys and they seemed quite happy, although a little pissed off with mangement over this awa stuff.....
Vote 1 K.Rudd in oct and hopefully he will sort them out!!!
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So despite being good company boys external captains are sought to circumvent the certified agreement, looks like the time in the sun is over. 
I reckon CX by the proverbial country mile...
I reckon CX by the proverbial country mile...
Crusty Demon
I know of one. He only went there because his magic age came up and he had to retire. If you aren’t a C & T and offered an extension on “B” scale, retirement age at CX is 55.
I know of one. He only went there because his magic age came up and he had to retire. If you aren’t a C & T and offered an extension on “B” scale, retirement age at CX is 55.
"3.2.8 on the JQ eba says "pilots can fly 1000hrs a year...It is at the end of the agreement under shedule 1"
http://www.afap.org.au/files/02PQL1O...ent%202005.pdf
Which page ?
http://www.afap.org.au/files/02PQL1O...ent%202005.pdf
Which page ?
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Q4y2007, you must still be in GA! You are a pilot whom thinks that money equals success...let me tell you now that the negative is you will only arrive at your expensive problems/mistakes in style!
SWH , Kavorka is just pissed off with Q4y2007's very somewhat debatable comments...I don't blame him/her for getting wound-up.
These JQ people whom you think they are wrong for what-20k a year??? 14 days off a month and doing max hours IS piss easy with a financial reward...how you compare a 74 f/o to an A320 f/o who are on a totally different scale!
You may not be happy wherever you go because of MONEY. Ask a NJS B717 driver forced to take a 10% pay cut (vs J*)how they feel about management! Somehow you will blame J* for that too.
I think you need to understand that no more than 4 people have left in the last 2 months=BIG DEAL!! (try mainline and/or VB)
Your perception on money will change when the company you end-up working for treat you like crap...(try mainline, JQ and/or VB)
We all want more and yet deserve more...18 months time we may see a change..
Now, where's that herbal tea(highly recommend SLEEPYTIME for those on earlies)
SWH , Kavorka is just pissed off with Q4y2007's very somewhat debatable comments...I don't blame him/her for getting wound-up.
These JQ people whom you think they are wrong for what-20k a year??? 14 days off a month and doing max hours IS piss easy with a financial reward...how you compare a 74 f/o to an A320 f/o who are on a totally different scale!
You may not be happy wherever you go because of MONEY. Ask a NJS B717 driver forced to take a 10% pay cut (vs J*)how they feel about management! Somehow you will blame J* for that too.
I think you need to understand that no more than 4 people have left in the last 2 months=BIG DEAL!! (try mainline and/or VB)
Your perception on money will change when the company you end-up working for treat you like crap...(try mainline, JQ and/or VB)
We all want more and yet deserve more...18 months time we may see a change..
Now, where's that herbal tea(highly recommend SLEEPYTIME for those on earlies)
aulglarse,
I agree with your sentiments, money does not buy happiness, nor does doing more sectors a day, nor does doing more hours a day.
I don't see JQ treating their people any better than VB (tech or cabin crew), and I think the honeymoon will end as you predict in about 18 months when commands dry up, and Tiger forces the rostering to get even tighter to save a dollar. The AFAP have already made representation to the JPC on the request of its members because of arduous rostering practices at JQ, and the real concerns of not being able to drive home safely as they claim to be fatigued.
I also think the tide will start turning in a few months when Tiger enter the field offering more cash than VB and JQ.
In any case, more pilots from VB, JQ, QF are moving to overseas carries as they realise the short sighted attitudes like we have seen displayed in this thread has put a ceiling on what they can earn in Australia, people are not worried about what they are going to feed the family with next week, just what is going to feed them when the get to retirement, that is, if they ever make retirement.
I agree with your sentiments, money does not buy happiness, nor does doing more sectors a day, nor does doing more hours a day.
I don't see JQ treating their people any better than VB (tech or cabin crew), and I think the honeymoon will end as you predict in about 18 months when commands dry up, and Tiger forces the rostering to get even tighter to save a dollar. The AFAP have already made representation to the JPC on the request of its members because of arduous rostering practices at JQ, and the real concerns of not being able to drive home safely as they claim to be fatigued.
I also think the tide will start turning in a few months when Tiger enter the field offering more cash than VB and JQ.
In any case, more pilots from VB, JQ, QF are moving to overseas carries as they realise the short sighted attitudes like we have seen displayed in this thread has put a ceiling on what they can earn in Australia, people are not worried about what they are going to feed the family with next week, just what is going to feed them when the get to retirement, that is, if they ever make retirement.
