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Silly Old Git
Good photty for a caption is that one.
"I say Ponsonby-Smythe the bally old girl is all yours, try not to cock it up theres a good chap."
They did talk like that in Kiwi a long time ago when there were Venom gods in the skies
"I say Ponsonby-Smythe the bally old girl is all yours, try not to cock it up theres a good chap."
They did talk like that in Kiwi a long time ago when there were Venom gods in the skies


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I actually thought of that TSB Bank[1] ad... with the flight instructor standing on the wing
"Use the stick to control roll and pitch and the Rudder pedals to control yaw. Flaps at 10 degrees for take-off and set your comms to one one eight decimal one". While the bewildered student says "Where are the comms?", the instructor shoves the throttle in and says "Off you go!" and jumps off...
Tried to find a video of it but no-one seems to have uploaded it
[1] Why is it the Taranaki Savings Bank.... errr Bank?
"Use the stick to control roll and pitch and the Rudder pedals to control yaw. Flaps at 10 degrees for take-off and set your comms to one one eight decimal one". While the bewildered student says "Where are the comms?", the instructor shoves the throttle in and says "Off you go!" and jumps off...
Tried to find a video of it but no-one seems to have uploaded it

[1] Why is it the Taranaki Savings Bank.... errr Bank?


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That bloody transition layer.
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I once had a V tail Bonanza (TYA) up to FL 180. Sure it took a long time to get there but i had a long leg to fly way out back. (yes of course I had oxygen). That aeroplane was probably a bit lighter than yours,and it was new. I almost lived in it for a couple of years.
Many years later I was involved in flying food from Alice Springs to Balgo, in WA in C 206's and we often went high coming home to get tailwainds, and to get out of thermal turbulence and over developing Cumulus, which often developed into CB's. That No-go zone, called the transition layer was a nuisance, denying us valuable cruising levels in cooler, smoother air.
Later I got to operate turbocharged aeroplanes in central Australia for about 8,000 hours, and cursed the transition layer, and the 10,000ft oxygen requirement which made it mandatory for me to bounce around in the turbulance in aeroplanes that just begged to go higher. The transition layer should be at about 18000 ft, and the oxygen level should be at 12000ft, the same as the rest of the world. (do we have substandard lungs? Is that why the All Blacks keep beating us?)
If we fix these two things we might see photos of aircraft cruising at 11000 and 12000 feet, where they should be. Turbo charged aircraft are now effectively limited to 8500 feet. Stupid.
The people who make the rules live on the coast, and don't seem to know about the thermal turrbulance in central Australia. Wish I could send them a photo of it.
Bet I get a lecture on Oxygen use now.
I once had a V tail Bonanza (TYA) up to FL 180. Sure it took a long time to get there but i had a long leg to fly way out back. (yes of course I had oxygen). That aeroplane was probably a bit lighter than yours,and it was new. I almost lived in it for a couple of years.
Many years later I was involved in flying food from Alice Springs to Balgo, in WA in C 206's and we often went high coming home to get tailwainds, and to get out of thermal turbulence and over developing Cumulus, which often developed into CB's. That No-go zone, called the transition layer was a nuisance, denying us valuable cruising levels in cooler, smoother air.
Later I got to operate turbocharged aeroplanes in central Australia for about 8,000 hours, and cursed the transition layer, and the 10,000ft oxygen requirement which made it mandatory for me to bounce around in the turbulance in aeroplanes that just begged to go higher. The transition layer should be at about 18000 ft, and the oxygen level should be at 12000ft, the same as the rest of the world. (do we have substandard lungs? Is that why the All Blacks keep beating us?)
If we fix these two things we might see photos of aircraft cruising at 11000 and 12000 feet, where they should be. Turbo charged aircraft are now effectively limited to 8500 feet. Stupid.
The people who make the rules live on the coast, and don't seem to know about the thermal turrbulance in central Australia. Wish I could send them a photo of it.
Bet I get a lecture on Oxygen use now.
Last edited by bushy; 19th Nov 2008 at 08:37. Reason: To avoid offending the spelling police.

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Bushy, your lament re altitude limits reminds me of the fact that back in PNG we regularly operated well above 10,000' in C206s and BN2s without supplementary oxygen.
Any enquiries from anyone unfamiliar with PNG ops as to whether either of the abovementioned A/C were equipped with oxygen would often be replied to by laughter.
I once spent just over two and a half hours in a 'A' model C402 at what I considered a ridiculous altitude without supplementary oxygen and had my reservations confirmed by suffering an altitude headache upon landing at Mt Hagen.
I discovered a good cure for it, but that's another story!

Any enquiries from anyone unfamiliar with PNG ops as to whether either of the abovementioned A/C were equipped with oxygen would often be replied to by laughter.
I once spent just over two and a half hours in a 'A' model C402 at what I considered a ridiculous altitude without supplementary oxygen and had my reservations confirmed by suffering an altitude headache upon landing at Mt Hagen.

I discovered a good cure for it, but that's another story!


I used to get headaches just thinking about flying a certain C402A.
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Slightly off the thread but the best record I can remember is VH-AWR, a C206 piloted by one George Smee, operating at FL260 doing some sort of survey work somewhere around the early 1980's.

Dear old (J)AWS! Only aeroplane that used to "sing" to me in the mornings - the HF aerials resonated in the wind.

Yep, and the hobbs meter used to keep ticking over when everything was turned off.
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Oxygen
On early cloud seeding operations in a Cessna 310 we used to have a suitable oxygen bottle in the cabin and sucked (sometimes bit) the open tube end for our supply at levels up to F200 or so.
Not sosphisticated but it worked.!
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Not sosphisticated but it worked.!
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