Ministers Media Release;Aviation Security Identification Card
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Why can't they post the damn things???
I have a phone message telling me to go to Qantas at Mascot - but first ring this number.... After spitting blood because I have to spend half a day and God knows what on petrol and parking, I did ring - and got played lift music for 30 mins before I gave up. So I ring CASA and try to see what the score is - same treatment. I wish these jokers would just get real!!
CASA, needless to say, you've lost even more friends on this. Not that that bothers you apparently!
Does this crap qualify as what Mr Truss seems to call exceptional circimstances? Not really, its completely normal for CASA! They are the experts at making rules no-one can comply with and then threatening the full force of the law if you do not comply - and that is the way GA gets treated here. C'mon Mr Truss, sort these p----s out, once and for all.
I have a phone message telling me to go to Qantas at Mascot - but first ring this number.... After spitting blood because I have to spend half a day and God knows what on petrol and parking, I did ring - and got played lift music for 30 mins before I gave up. So I ring CASA and try to see what the score is - same treatment. I wish these jokers would just get real!!
CASA, needless to say, you've lost even more friends on this. Not that that bothers you apparently!
Does this crap qualify as what Mr Truss seems to call exceptional circimstances? Not really, its completely normal for CASA! They are the experts at making rules no-one can comply with and then threatening the full force of the law if you do not comply - and that is the way GA gets treated here. C'mon Mr Truss, sort these p----s out, once and for all.
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Stallie – ask your boss if they object to you using your employment issued ASIC, they paid for it; the other question is, are we allowed to have two? Bet the bureaucrats did not think of that.
My employer has no problems with me using mine for my private activities with their name on it; then again we did not look at any possible FBT implications.
My employer has no problems with me using mine for my private activities with their name on it; then again we did not look at any possible FBT implications.
Hey TB
How's things? Still gliding?
Boss has no trouble with me using the ASIC for pvt flying - the issue is more if I am actually allowed to. Will some security guard give me a hard time as I have an ASIC having just emerged from a C172 with the Mrs and an esky?
CS
How's things? Still gliding?
Boss has no trouble with me using the ASIC for pvt flying - the issue is more if I am actually allowed to. Will some security guard give me a hard time as I have an ASIC having just emerged from a C172 with the Mrs and an esky?
CS
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I re-read the forms and everything I could find, and it is still not clear to me whether it's permissible to use your company-issued ASIC on private matters, or to even have two. Does anyone know? Compressor Stall, if you can get it in writing from CASA or DOTARS that you can have two, then I suggest you get two, just to avoid security guards having a go at you for using it for 'non-company business' and inconveniencing you.
A completely separate question
On the CASA application form, it's stated that if you hold an AVID, you can get an ASIC at a reduced fee.
Does it work the other way round (i.e. if you hold a current ASIC, can you get an AVID at a reduced fee), even though no reference is made to that situation on the application form?
I'm just thinking that if they have a similar fiasco come 2007/8, at least holding an AVID would enable one to fly between non-security-controlled aerodromes if the authorities fail to get well-organised (or shall I say, 'sufficiently organised') by then and ASIC processing turn into another chaos.
Does anyone know?
A completely separate question
On the CASA application form, it's stated that if you hold an AVID, you can get an ASIC at a reduced fee.
Does it work the other way round (i.e. if you hold a current ASIC, can you get an AVID at a reduced fee), even though no reference is made to that situation on the application form?
I'm just thinking that if they have a similar fiasco come 2007/8, at least holding an AVID would enable one to fly between non-security-controlled aerodromes if the authorities fail to get well-organised (or shall I say, 'sufficiently organised') by then and ASIC processing turn into another chaos.
Does anyone know?
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Originally Posted by Icefire
Have now been told and gathered from various forums that the validity date ties in with your police clearence date. I have never seen this stated any where during the whole sorry process
...the expiry must not be later than 2 years after the day on which the relevant background checks of the holder were completed.
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ASIC lost in transit
Called CASA on Friday to find out where mine is. Application sent in December, money taken from me two weeks later. They told me it was either in Perth or Darwin and I need to go to see QANTAS to pick it up. Thats all fine except im in Kununurra, 3280km from perth and 900km from Darwhine. Is anyone else in this same position? When I do find it, QANTAS are supposed to then send it back to CASA in Canberra who will then post it to me in KNX. These people are supposed to be regulating our industry people!
Grandpa Aerotart
Mine arrived!!!!
At the alternative BN address I gave them...that of a mate...he signed for it and it awaits me...not sure when it lapses...prolly January/Feb or march 2008 but I din't ask.
It arrived on time so that's good...I take back some of my frustrated rhetoric...I still think they are a complete WOFTAM however.
At the alternative BN address I gave them...that of a mate...he signed for it and it awaits me...not sure when it lapses...prolly January/Feb or march 2008 but I din't ask.
It arrived on time so that's good...I take back some of my frustrated rhetoric...I still think they are a complete WOFTAM however.
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Just got my ASIC - submitted application Feb 28 and got card Mar 30. I am amazed it actually happened so quickly. Still a waste of $145 and everybodies time but hey it arrived.
Applied for AVID May 05 - received Aug 05
Applied for ASIC late DEC 05 (Advised received by CASA 3rd Jan)
Mid March 06 receive email that no certified photos with ASIC application and thus must submit photos for further proccessing.
Mar 30 Receive ASIC by registered post (presumably using photo supplied for AVID) valid to FEB 08
Can't really complain as AVID free and ASIC was only $95 but obviously some confusion - what determines expiry date?
Applied for ASIC late DEC 05 (Advised received by CASA 3rd Jan)
Mid March 06 receive email that no certified photos with ASIC application and thus must submit photos for further proccessing.
Mar 30 Receive ASIC by registered post (presumably using photo supplied for AVID) valid to FEB 08
Can't really complain as AVID free and ASIC was only $95 but obviously some confusion - what determines expiry date?
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Just picked up my ASIC from Perth airport - yes it was after midnight but the Chubb security folks were waiting for the Cairns flight and were very pleasant and helpful. Got chatting about the general difficulties involved in this whole process and was told that one pilot turned up to collect his card from them and found to his horror that it had the wrong photograph on it - and he needed it for work. Wonder how he got on at work the next day.
My card expires in August 07 - so I've been ripped off too. Slice: as I've posted previously, the expiry date is determined by the date of the background check - supposedly 2 years validity from the date of the last check. In my case they've based it on the date of the issue of my AVID. And they debited my credit card in early January so they've had my money for nearly 3 months before I got the card. Sigh... At least it has my photograph on it - not pretty but it's me
My card expires in August 07 - so I've been ripped off too. Slice: as I've posted previously, the expiry date is determined by the date of the background check - supposedly 2 years validity from the date of the last check. In my case they've based it on the date of the issue of my AVID. And they debited my credit card in early January so they've had my money for nearly 3 months before I got the card. Sigh... At least it has my photograph on it - not pretty but it's me
Grandpa Aerotart
Wrong photo prolly won't be an issue...mate in PNG had one done up with a close up photo of female genetalia and it went un-noticed for YEARS by those not in on the joke
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ASIC Check @CASA
If you need the link to the status check it is:
http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/status.htm
The link in the latest news item on the CASA website is broken. The older item has this link in it.
Hope that helps anyone who needs it.
http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/status.htm
The link in the latest news item on the CASA website is broken. The older item has this link in it.
Hope that helps anyone who needs it.
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Hello Stallie
This may be of help to you.
I previously had an ASIC which was issued to my under my old employer. It had the company name on it as well as mine.
I left this employer in early 2005 and thay asked for the card back, which I duly did.
I started with new employer in Aug 05 at same airport, walked into the issuing office and thay gave me a new card, based on my previous one after I paid the $50 fee.
This is I believe the fee for re-issuing a lost card. The new card has no employer name on it, and I understand NO new cards do.
I asked about this and was told (so take it with a grain of salt), that the card is MINE and not the companies, I can use the card at any time and anywhere it is approved (ie AUS). I have also been told that the new passes are not locality specific and can be used anywhere.
I have just put in paperwork for a renewal of this ASIC (due in June), the company filled in thier bit and have paid for it.
As I understand it, they can ask for it back if I leave thier employ, leaving me without a card untill I pay the $50 for a re-issue of a lost card.
I am not sure if this good or bad but it certinaly is a strange way of doing buisness.
As for your circumstances, I don't think you have a problem. The rules will apply for all cards the same, reguardless of whether there is a company name on them or not, and or if the card is location specific. The new cards have neither.
The application process is the same regardless of the class of airport you are using.
Richo
This may be of help to you.
I previously had an ASIC which was issued to my under my old employer. It had the company name on it as well as mine.
I left this employer in early 2005 and thay asked for the card back, which I duly did.
I started with new employer in Aug 05 at same airport, walked into the issuing office and thay gave me a new card, based on my previous one after I paid the $50 fee.
This is I believe the fee for re-issuing a lost card. The new card has no employer name on it, and I understand NO new cards do.
I asked about this and was told (so take it with a grain of salt), that the card is MINE and not the companies, I can use the card at any time and anywhere it is approved (ie AUS). I have also been told that the new passes are not locality specific and can be used anywhere.
I have just put in paperwork for a renewal of this ASIC (due in June), the company filled in thier bit and have paid for it.
As I understand it, they can ask for it back if I leave thier employ, leaving me without a card untill I pay the $50 for a re-issue of a lost card.
I am not sure if this good or bad but it certinaly is a strange way of doing buisness.
As for your circumstances, I don't think you have a problem. The rules will apply for all cards the same, reguardless of whether there is a company name on them or not, and or if the card is location specific. The new cards have neither.
The application process is the same regardless of the class of airport you are using.
Richo
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Originally Posted by kookabat
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Picking it up from Qantas in Mascot was painless!!!
Go in, photo ID, 'here you are'.
Pity it's only valid to MAY 07, eh!!
Picking it up from Qantas in Mascot was painless!!!
Go in, photo ID, 'here you are'.
Pity it's only valid to MAY 07, eh!!
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Well, not having received a phone call from CASA, I took a punt and went to the Perth Domestic Terminal to see if my ASIC was there..... no good 
So I go back to the office and called the CLARC - its after 5 over east so I'll give them credit for that - but after waiting 20 minutes on hold I was hoping for some answers.... no good
Left name & number do you reckon they'll get back to me?
Who knows?
Since my application for an ASIC & SPL went was sent in last November - I have had to keep training dual. I am about to start navs with no sign of my ASIC and apparently no SPL until the ASIC is "cleared".
I take people's viewpoints on whose mess this is but its been stuffed up at so many points down the line its not funny
Anderson
Truss DOTARS CASA CLARC
So I go back to the office and called the CLARC - its after 5 over east so I'll give them credit for that - but after waiting 20 minutes on hold I was hoping for some answers.... no good
Left name & number do you reckon they'll get back to me?
Who knows?
Since my application for an ASIC & SPL went was sent in last November - I have had to keep training dual. I am about to start navs with no sign of my ASIC and apparently no SPL until the ASIC is "cleared".
I take people's viewpoints on whose mess this is but its been stuffed up at so many points down the line its not funny
Anderson
Truss DOTARS CASA CLARC
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Originally Posted by Ando1Bar
May 07 - we have a new winner!
Yep mine as well is May 07.
However a work colleage's ASIC expires in APR 07!!! He's only got 1year left the poor bugger.