Ministers Media Release;Aviation Security Identification Card
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I too received the phone call today, "your ASIC is ready to be picked up from Chubb Security at the domestic terminal in Perth". When I explained that that was going to be impossible because I live in Karratha, she gave me the "dont shoot the messenger" line and call Chubb.
I call Chubb who tell me that the only way I could get someone to pick my card up, was to put in writing, on a CASA letter head
who I wanted to pick up my card.
Rang CASA, after finally getting through to them, I'm told that the letter head is not required and that CASA will retrieve my card and post it out to me.
When I asked about flying from tomorrow onwards without the card, I got a simply "well,you cant". Somehow I think I'll be flying tomorrow regardless.
Initially the cards were to be sent to all airports that QANTAS flew out of so that guys in rural areas could pick up their cards. Obviously this wasnt going to fit in with the deadline. So instead of getting the cards of us remote folk and posting them.. they wait until we all start calling them to say "Hey you
up again".
I rarely have something to say, but these last few months have really seen my patience stretched to the limit.. God help any rent a cop that has something to say about my ASIC.
Let the circus continue
I call Chubb who tell me that the only way I could get someone to pick my card up, was to put in writing, on a CASA letter head
who I wanted to pick up my card. Rang CASA, after finally getting through to them, I'm told that the letter head is not required and that CASA will retrieve my card and post it out to me.
When I asked about flying from tomorrow onwards without the card, I got a simply "well,you cant". Somehow I think I'll be flying tomorrow regardless.
Initially the cards were to be sent to all airports that QANTAS flew out of so that guys in rural areas could pick up their cards. Obviously this wasnt going to fit in with the deadline. So instead of getting the cards of us remote folk and posting them.. they wait until we all start calling them to say "Hey you
up again".I rarely have something to say, but these last few months have really seen my patience stretched to the limit.. God help any rent a cop that has something to say about my ASIC.
Let the circus continue
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Further to my post earlier today; Phoned Qantas and a very polite and helpful switchboard Girl put me through to the appropriate dept. Promptly heard a recorded menu which was so faint and of poor quality that I barely understood it! Made my selection as to which section I required and after 10 minutes (timed) on hold at STD rates I hung up.
Think I'll pay a personal visit when next in Adelaide.
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I am going to stick my neck out yet again.
CASA simply cannot and will not , even if they wanted to, tell you that you can fly without a card after the 31st.
Please read the Ministers Media Release again, this time for comprehension.
And please please, even if it hurts, be polite to the security guys if they want to talk to you, they are supposed to be up to speed and remember it is not their personal fault anymore than it is yours, if you have done the right thing.
CASA simply cannot and will not , even if they wanted to, tell you that you can fly without a card after the 31st.
Please read the Ministers Media Release again, this time for comprehension.
And please please, even if it hurts, be polite to the security guys if they want to talk to you, they are supposed to be up to speed and remember it is not their personal fault anymore than it is yours, if you have done the right thing.
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Can anyone beat Jul 07 as their expiry date? Are we entitled to any discount either this time or next time around? Surely I shouldn't have to pay for 24 months worth of ASIC when it is only valid for 16?
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to many of the plebs at CASA who have been working hard to get these out ASAP despite some very poor processes. They've put up with a lot of abuse from many people and they were still at it at 9pm last night, sending text messages to applicants to let them know their card was ready for collection.
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to many of the plebs at CASA who have been working hard to get these out ASAP despite some very poor processes. They've put up with a lot of abuse from many people and they were still at it at 9pm last night, sending text messages to applicants to let them know their card was ready for collection.
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Thanks gaunty.
You have certainly been more forthcoming with info than the Feds have.
For the record, no ASIC here yet either, although they assure me it exists but cannot tell me where.
You have certainly been more forthcoming with info than the Feds have.
For the record, no ASIC here yet either, although they assure me it exists but cannot tell me where.
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ASIC info
I got the phone call this AM telling me that the card was ready. Picked it up this afternoon.
There are a pile of boxes with ASICs at QF security in Sydney - looks like a few hundred or so.
Received this email from AOPA this afteroon:
Dear AOPA member
AOPA has been advised that some ASIC’s have been sitting with QANTAS admin for the past 2 weeks and to date, CASA have not notified these people that they are available for collection.
This is unsatisfactory – and, like you, AOPA has been far from pleased with the way in which CASA have managed this situation.
If you live close to one of the major airports that have QANTAS admin on site, please call the CASA CLARC office on 1300 737 032. They will know exactly where your ASIC is, and can advise if it is ready to be collected.
Regards
Andrew Kerans
Vice President AOPA
Also have a look at: http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/inquiry.htm
http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/questions.htm
I used the progress check and was told my application was completed on 17 January and sent for printing.
From my reading of the CASA website, the reply email from the progress check will suffice as proof that the ASIC is being processed.
There are a pile of boxes with ASICs at QF security in Sydney - looks like a few hundred or so.
Received this email from AOPA this afteroon:
Dear AOPA member
AOPA has been advised that some ASIC’s have been sitting with QANTAS admin for the past 2 weeks and to date, CASA have not notified these people that they are available for collection.
This is unsatisfactory – and, like you, AOPA has been far from pleased with the way in which CASA have managed this situation.
If you live close to one of the major airports that have QANTAS admin on site, please call the CASA CLARC office on 1300 737 032. They will know exactly where your ASIC is, and can advise if it is ready to be collected.
Regards
Andrew Kerans
Vice President AOPA
Also have a look at: http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/inquiry.htm
http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/questions.htm
I used the progress check and was told my application was completed on 17 January and sent for printing.
From my reading of the CASA website, the reply email from the progress check will suffice as proof that the ASIC is being processed.
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Finally received mine today in the mail (via registered post) after having applied for it in October and paying for it in November.
Don't quite know how they calculate the expiry date, but mine is due to expire in January 2008 - so will get my money's worth I suppose.
Obviously there is movement at the station....
Don't quite know how they calculate the expiry date, but mine is due to expire in January 2008 - so will get my money's worth I suppose.
Obviously there is movement at the station....
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No offence folks, but i think your anger is a bit off track.
CASA is not the reason for this BS, its because of the self perpetuating DOTARs monkeys, CASA had the ASIC thing dropped in their lap just about overnight.
Frankly i feel CASA have been given a crap deal in this one. They've done pretty well to try as quickly as possible get the ball rolling.
If you have anger to vent, vent it at Warren Truss, they are the ones that have put policy in place that allows our friends at DOTARS to make everyone at VRD have ASIC cards, talk about NFI.
Australia like usual is miles behind the rest of the world, did you know in the US you are now allowed to carry items previously forbidden onboard, i.e metal dinner cutlery, scissors etc etc.
With regard to the "cost recovery" we are all experiencing, why shouldn't users pay, but, if you work for a company that will not renew your medical or pay for your ASIC card ( it is required for you to work in their workplace ), more fool you, this cost will refect an extra 50 cent an hours in the charter rate.
CASA is not the reason for this BS, its because of the self perpetuating DOTARs monkeys, CASA had the ASIC thing dropped in their lap just about overnight.
Frankly i feel CASA have been given a crap deal in this one. They've done pretty well to try as quickly as possible get the ball rolling.
If you have anger to vent, vent it at Warren Truss, they are the ones that have put policy in place that allows our friends at DOTARS to make everyone at VRD have ASIC cards, talk about NFI.
Australia like usual is miles behind the rest of the world, did you know in the US you are now allowed to carry items previously forbidden onboard, i.e metal dinner cutlery, scissors etc etc.
With regard to the "cost recovery" we are all experiencing, why shouldn't users pay, but, if you work for a company that will not renew your medical or pay for your ASIC card ( it is required for you to work in their workplace ), more fool you, this cost will refect an extra 50 cent an hours in the charter rate.
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Got Mine 31/3/06!
Applied late December, 05. Got mine yeaterday (31/3) via registered post. Expiry is Jun 07. This corresponds with my AVID issue date (30 June 05). Add 2 years to my orignal seciurity check date (for AVID) and that gives you the June 07 expiry for my ASIC.
My AVID expires June 2010.
My AVID expires June 2010.
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Applied mid December and to date, no letter of confirmation, no receipt and more importantly - NO ASIC!!! I've been assured that it's at Qantas getting printed. 
I did get one thing though - a $95 debit on my credit card!
Can anyone confirm that people in the Melbourne area aren't having to drive out to Tulla to pick it up?
Soulman.
I did get one thing though - a $95 debit on my credit card!
Can anyone confirm that people in the Melbourne area aren't having to drive out to Tulla to pick it up?
Soulman.
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Mine is apparently with Chubb at Perth Airport, I discover this by email on the afternoon of 1 April. Not from CASA or anyone else, from someone who had been chasing these things up on behalf of a few of us at Jandakot. CASA have never sent me any knid of information about my ASIC application or wherabouts.
Won't have time to go and pick it up for a few weeks unless I cancel a day's work. Why couldn't they have posted it? Then I only would have needed to cancel half a day's work to collect the registered mail from the post office. Asked the lady at Chubb (How did they get involved in this, yet another layer of people for things to go wrong) if they could post it to me and she said no, they were under strict instructions only to give them to applicants in person. And that only the CASA issued ones had been posted. Well, guess what, mine was CASA issued. duh
So this mess is still not resolved and I DID NOT get my ASIC by 31 March. It was NOT "distributed" to me, as promised by Truss; it is stuck in a cardboard box at Perth airport for the forseeable future. Maybe Chubb can send it back to Qantas who can send it back to CASA who can then post it to me.
Won't have time to go and pick it up for a few weeks unless I cancel a day's work. Why couldn't they have posted it? Then I only would have needed to cancel half a day's work to collect the registered mail from the post office. Asked the lady at Chubb (How did they get involved in this, yet another layer of people for things to go wrong) if they could post it to me and she said no, they were under strict instructions only to give them to applicants in person. And that only the CASA issued ones had been posted. Well, guess what, mine was CASA issued. duh
So this mess is still not resolved and I DID NOT get my ASIC by 31 March. It was NOT "distributed" to me, as promised by Truss; it is stuck in a cardboard box at Perth airport for the forseeable future. Maybe Chubb can send it back to Qantas who can send it back to CASA who can then post it to me.
Grandpa Aerotart
Yup...mine has not arrived either.
I applied and payed cash on Dec 17th. It was at QF being printed some weeks ago. When I applied (At CASA BN Office, paid cash) I made sure that posting it to my work address overseas, C/- Blah blah Flight Ops Dept PO Box etc, was NOT an issue...no problems said the CASA lady in BN. If they now expect me to pick it up from Chubb, QF, TL refueler or whereever they can expect a less than gracious answer.
And apart from a reply to my second email enquiry to the CASA website...the first went unanswered but the second time I ticked the "I need it for work" box..I have yet to receive syllable ONE from the Cretins Against Sensible Aviation or Department Of Tradgically Average Reality Suspenders addressing, in any meaningfull way, any issues
Lucky I don't need it for work...my company issued one (foriegn country, zero security background check) is sufficient for me to pilot a widebody into any capital city in Oz...Grafton, Roma and Toowoomba etc in my Bonanza is where the real risk lays...or so I am led to believe
What other enterprise could charge top dollar for zero service?
It just beggars belief.
I applied and payed cash on Dec 17th. It was at QF being printed some weeks ago. When I applied (At CASA BN Office, paid cash) I made sure that posting it to my work address overseas, C/- Blah blah Flight Ops Dept PO Box etc, was NOT an issue...no problems said the CASA lady in BN. If they now expect me to pick it up from Chubb, QF, TL refueler or whereever they can expect a less than gracious answer.
And apart from a reply to my second email enquiry to the CASA website...the first went unanswered but the second time I ticked the "I need it for work" box..I have yet to receive syllable ONE from the Cretins Against Sensible Aviation or Department Of Tradgically Average Reality Suspenders addressing, in any meaningfull way, any issues
Lucky I don't need it for work...my company issued one (foriegn country, zero security background check) is sufficient for me to pilot a widebody into any capital city in Oz...Grafton, Roma and Toowoomba etc in my Bonanza is where the real risk lays...or so I am led to believe
What other enterprise could charge top dollar for zero service?
It just beggars belief.
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I've seen some good ones on here but this stuff takes the cake. FYI: Mine was at Brisvegas airport on Friday as promised. 5 minutes to pick it up and $5.00 for parking.
We're in the wrong business.
I've seen some good ones on here but this stuff takes the cake. FYI: Mine was at Brisvegas airport on Friday as promised. 5 minutes to pick it up and $5.00 for parking.
We're in the wrong business.
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Can beat Jun or Jul 07.
Got mine with a day to spare, HOWEVER it is only valid until JAN 07, thats right 8 months.
Just under $12 a month, aint bad is it. Everyone was expecting 2 years - what a rip off. Expect a new card or if not, a refund or a massive and I mean masive discount on the next one. (Won't hold my breath though).
Have now been told and gathered from various forums that the validity date ties in with your police clearence date. I have never seen this stated any where during the whole sorry process and I reckon the fee must be payable on a pro-rata basis. Are they taking money under false pretences?
Contacted CASA who require I write a letter of complaint (as if I needed prompting). They have an enquiries (read complaints) dept for this and I can imagine it is going to be very busy.
Got mine with a day to spare, HOWEVER it is only valid until JAN 07, thats right 8 months.
Just under $12 a month, aint bad is it. Everyone was expecting 2 years - what a rip off. Expect a new card or if not, a refund or a massive and I mean masive discount on the next one. (Won't hold my breath though).
Have now been told and gathered from various forums that the validity date ties in with your police clearence date. I have never seen this stated any where during the whole sorry process and I reckon the fee must be payable on a pro-rata basis. Are they taking money under false pretences?
Contacted CASA who require I write a letter of complaint (as if I needed prompting). They have an enquiries (read complaints) dept for this and I can imagine it is going to be very busy.
Grandpa Aerotart
I note on the CASA website a 1300 number for enquiries regrading HOW your ASIC is being forwarded...1300 number cannot be rung from overseas...anyone (Gaunty?) got a proper phone number I can ring from Asia?
I also note with some bemusement the list of places you can collect your ASIC....QF Cairns check in counter and the Jetstar check in counter in Launceston...what an amazing degredation of the value of the ASIC card in the last couple of years.
I also note with some bemusement the list of places you can collect your ASIC....QF Cairns check in counter and the Jetstar check in counter in Launceston...what an amazing degredation of the value of the ASIC card in the last couple of years.
Grandpa Aerotart
I also note that if you click on 'check the status of your application online' you get 'Safari cannot open this application'....so the stupid carnts have closed down that webpage
I think the little red globe at CASA marked 'FIP' has finally fused completely.
I think the little red globe at CASA marked 'FIP' has finally fused completely.