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Old 11th Jan 2010, 07:07
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Was having a beer with a mate the other night, who also worked in PNG, discussing RL, his very lucky escape in view of the location, hoping for his rapid recovery, and generally descending into a torpid stupor.

After quite a few, and beginning to suffer from memory loss (senior moments) we wondered if anybody had put together list of blokes who had flown in PNG, say from the 60's through to the 90's, and where they were now, still flying etc.

???
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 06:52
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I helped to put a list together of all Talair pilots (that anyone could remember) for the last Talair reunion at Caloundra, but I don't feel it would be appropriate to post anywhere... privacy etc.
Then again, there maybe a Talair reunion website somewhere which contains all the names... including ground staff.
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 23:13
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Twin Otter

Have Airlines PNG broken another otter??? Has anyone heard???
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 23:25
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Heard they got one from the Solomons that had bits missing, and others with bits broken.
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 02:02
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Peter Spencer

He's now 61, but in his younger days worked in the hotel and tourism industry in Papua New Guinea.
God ... I didn't realise it was that Peter Spencer on the TV News! I haven't seen him since the 80s or early 90s and didn't recognise him!!

Apparently he was successful there, and ended up owning some hotels.
Not quite correct, but I guess close enough. He "leased" Karawari Lodge in the late 1970s until the rent became due.... Last I saw him would have been the '80s at "The Sticks and Stones" at Kagamuga, Mt Hagen, until that motel burnt down.

"Peter Spencer is a complicated and volatile character."
That would be a fair but "conservative" assessment. He was certainly very "different"!

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Old 19th Jan 2010, 02:52
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The same Peter Spencer that "stormed" into my office in Cairns and blamed Air Niugini for all the social messes in PNG... and he was going to report me to the PM (Pius Wingti) for not upgrading him. I ask you, why bother with him!!
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 04:05
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Twin Otter

No this otter has a broken nose.
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 06:13
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APNG Otter incidents ?

I heard that they bent two otters,one at Gobie and one somewhere else. This was over a month ago,the info come from an APNG engineer.
Given the nature of some of airstrips they operate into,I'm not suprised they don't have anymore serious incidents. I seem to recall that they were having problems a few years ago with nose gear bulkheads getting damaged,due to operating into very rough airstrips. They had two aircraft damaged at Gulgubip within 12 months of each other at on stage.
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 06:26
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Twin Otter

Thanks W.W. this one I heard happened yesterday!!!!
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 06:30
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Two boobs,
In that case I don't know,any idea where and was there any injuries ?
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 07:28
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Twin Otter

W.W I know about the Gulgubip incidents: the first one engineers missed a crack in the nose-wheel assembly, which failed one side of the split rim, nose leg dug in and retracted. The second I wont comment on. The crash yesterday I believe is pilot error. No casualties.
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 19:41
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P2-EMO from the pics I saw it will not be flying out (well not for a while anyway) not sure if it was landing or taking-off at KIK
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 20:58
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Which leads to a question:

Is there a problem with the APNG C & T structure?
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 01:31
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Foung this in todays National.

Plane crashes into Kikori garden

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FIVE people had a lucky escape when a Twin Otter plane crashed into a garden while taking off from an airstrip in Kikori, Gulf province around 3pm on Monday.
On board the plane were two pilots and three passengers, bound for Kerema, when the plane skidded off the airstrip.
No one was injured, but the aircraft suffered some damage to its nose cone.
Senior officials at the Civil Aviation Safety Authority said the plane was a commercial flight for Airlines PNG.
A full investigation into the crash will begin today, and will be conducted by both CASA and Airlines PNG.
No further details on the accident were available yesterday.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 02:29
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By the look of that photo "but the aircraft suffered some damage to its nose cone." is certainly an understatement, wonder how much more has to taken off to be "considerable damage to its nose cone".
 
Old 20th Jan 2010, 19:36
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The photo does not show the L/H wing damage and the bent L/H prop tips the nose gear would have gone too.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 19:59
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The main reasons people have crashed Twin Otters at high speed on the ground in the past, have been because they tried to steer them with the tiller too long on take-off, or didn't have the nosewheel centred before putting it on the ground on landing. A 'captain' I knew once, even tried a couple of times to get airbourne with the park brake on.. Didn't lose it, even though the surface was moist, but he did wear a couple of flat spots on the mains when he finally aborted halfway along.. Co-pilot hadn't noticed it still on either..
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 21:29
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It wasn't an APNG flight at all, but the AC was hired from them.
It was apparently due to a sudden strong wind change.
According to one senior politician, we should expect that sort of thing to happen far more regularly, as the reason why all aircraft in PNG crash is because of climate change and global warming. we should all expect to see many more of the same sorts of accidents, and except it as one of the risks of flying in PNG.
CAA doesn't investigate crashes. that's the ATSB's job.
Seems that the Pollies are about as well informed as the press.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 21:44
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Make the co-pilots hold the ailerons into wind while taxiing, and in the early stages of the take-off even if it is not their sector. The captain has one hand on the tiller and the other on the power levers, and the co-pilot is often sitting there with mind in neutral, while a crosswind buffets the ailerons on the roll, and lifts a wing. Two crew operations must be done properly on the ground as well as in the air.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 22:28
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Don't recall any dramas with Twotters before the inclusion of a "co-pilot"
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