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Arthur's Scrap-Machines
I'm buying into this subject because, well let's face it, it is cathartic to have a whinge! - but also, I've got to look at these god-forsaken scrap heaps every other day, and I'll tell you, it's not easy on the eye!
I just cannot understand how a fare paying passenger would get on one of these dung pile machines. The engines probably are half reasonable, but the appearance is pure putrification - Do I make my point?
I have heard - and since this is a RUMOUR network - why not say it - that Arthur's poor pilot's receive $140.00 per day for their trouble. Makes packing at woolies look like a very attractive proposition! - particularly if you have to go and fork out 10 grand for a rating - followed by a few years spent getting a very brown tongue!
I haven't met the person and won't buy into the argument about what sort of a guy he is, but I do agree with a previous poster in saying that It gives general aviation in Queensland a bad name having these machines present to the public every day - they are quite shameful.
I just cannot understand how a fare paying passenger would get on one of these dung pile machines. The engines probably are half reasonable, but the appearance is pure putrification - Do I make my point?
I have heard - and since this is a RUMOUR network - why not say it - that Arthur's poor pilot's receive $140.00 per day for their trouble. Makes packing at woolies look like a very attractive proposition! - particularly if you have to go and fork out 10 grand for a rating - followed by a few years spent getting a very brown tongue!
I haven't met the person and won't buy into the argument about what sort of a guy he is, but I do agree with a previous poster in saying that It gives general aviation in Queensland a bad name having these machines present to the public every day - they are quite shameful.
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Hi everyone, I worked for the man for about 2 years. Some of the best experience I have ever had.
I think you will find that most peope who have worked their loved the experience and would not give it back for the world. With regard to the pay, the work is all casual so you get casual rates, but you do get a little more than 140 per day. Remember some days are very very long while others are very short, so i think the daily rate evens out over a year.
Most guys get in with about 1000 hours total time with maybe a little multi, then for the next couple of years you get about 60 hours / month twin engine all IFR, very valuable experience. Don't expet to get a look in unless you know someone who works there.
I think you guys were a little harsh on the aircraft, 4 navajos all up, 2 look like ****, and 2 look decent. The crap ones are used for the desert work. Maintenance is the best i have seen, all done by Rapair at AF. Broke down once in 2 years due to a starter motor problem.
Most of the comments have been negative because most people have not worked there. I guarantee anyone who has worked for Mr Morris will talk highly of the job. But he is still the rudest person I have ever met. Always good to his pilots though, pays when he should, super etc, and no matter how much he dislikes someone always gives them a great reference for future jobs. I think it is really pointless knocking on the door unless you know someone, sucks but thats the way it works.
I think you will find that most peope who have worked their loved the experience and would not give it back for the world. With regard to the pay, the work is all casual so you get casual rates, but you do get a little more than 140 per day. Remember some days are very very long while others are very short, so i think the daily rate evens out over a year.
Most guys get in with about 1000 hours total time with maybe a little multi, then for the next couple of years you get about 60 hours / month twin engine all IFR, very valuable experience. Don't expet to get a look in unless you know someone who works there.
I think you guys were a little harsh on the aircraft, 4 navajos all up, 2 look like ****, and 2 look decent. The crap ones are used for the desert work. Maintenance is the best i have seen, all done by Rapair at AF. Broke down once in 2 years due to a starter motor problem.
Most of the comments have been negative because most people have not worked there. I guarantee anyone who has worked for Mr Morris will talk highly of the job. But he is still the rudest person I have ever met. Always good to his pilots though, pays when he should, super etc, and no matter how much he dislikes someone always gives them a great reference for future jobs. I think it is really pointless knocking on the door unless you know someone, sucks but thats the way it works.
Are you a human
Lets not mix up the issues that have been brought up here. His machines may be crap, his pilots may gain valuable experience working for him (I know most end up pushing thrust levers forward somewhere sweet), and you get to live in Brissy for your troubles but why oh why does he need to treat an enthusiastic, willing to work very hard and capable young pilot like some sh@t he stepped in on the way to work. 
Not nescessary, I have spoken with stacks of young hopefuls and at the most inconvenient of times but I never ever carried on like this. Just a simple sorry we are not looking for drivers thanks leave the cv there & good bye will do
That's about as harsh as it needs to get even after years of it.
Not nescessary, I have spoken with stacks of young hopefuls and at the most inconvenient of times but I never ever carried on like this. Just a simple sorry we are not looking for drivers thanks leave the cv there & good bye will do
That's about as harsh as it needs to get even after years of it.
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I'm not in the market for a job, but I might take a CV with me next time I'm over that way and present it to him.
and when he does the rude bit I will let him know in no uncertain terms what he is and what his gear looks like.
theres no point in getting all arrogant with newbies... or anyone else for that matter. most won't stand up and have their say coz they're looking for a job and dont want to upset the applecart. Its because of these poor young (and some not so young) pilots that dont say anything after being treated badly, that people get away with doing rude stuff to the next guy.
get a back bone you fellus and tell the guy he's a rude prick and his gear looks like sh1t.............. after all, he's just told ya to p1ss off and isnt likely to be digging ya CV outa the round file to find ya phone number, is he?
and when he does the rude bit I will let him know in no uncertain terms what he is and what his gear looks like.
theres no point in getting all arrogant with newbies... or anyone else for that matter. most won't stand up and have their say coz they're looking for a job and dont want to upset the applecart. Its because of these poor young (and some not so young) pilots that dont say anything after being treated badly, that people get away with doing rude stuff to the next guy.
get a back bone you fellus and tell the guy he's a rude prick and his gear looks like sh1t.............. after all, he's just told ya to p1ss off and isnt likely to be digging ya CV outa the round file to find ya phone number, is he?
I did 2 years with the uncle.......hard........but the best 2 years of my GA flying. The machines are maintained to the highest standard. I understand things are tight at present. I hope they get better. You know the conditions up front and if you don't like them.....well......u leave. If you want good hours quickly you stay.
Cheers
Captain Stoobing.............soon we will be making another run.
Cheers
Captain Stoobing.............soon we will be making another run.
Wiz,
If there's no point being arrogant with anyone, why would you march into some busy persons office with CV, just so you could give him a piece of your mind?(Don't give away too much)
Would this not be arrogance personified?
Cheers
If there's no point being arrogant with anyone, why would you march into some busy persons office with CV, just so you could give him a piece of your mind?(Don't give away too much)
Would this not be arrogance personified?
Cheers
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Wiz, you can march in there and say what you like but i guarantee he dosn't give a cr@p. On the other point i reckon most pilots that end up working there have had their cv thrown in the bin some time or another. This is just the sort of weirdo he is. Dosn't mean he dosn't like you, could infact mean the opposite.
Guys I think you'll find Wiz was thinking more along the lines of "taking it to" people of that percieved calibre, rather than actually go looking for a job.
If he is that busy, then why doesn't he do like many CP's? Set aside one morning a week for interviews, word will soon get around and he'll be able to get on with his job in peace.
I've never had a CP be rude to my face when looking for a flying job (OK there was one rude/arrogant bastard, but I was working for him in Rose Bay for a while), but at 6'4" and of respectable build, I guess I don't get the lip others do.
I once stopped over on Hamilton Island one day a bit over 5 years ago (was in the middle of a sailing holiday around the Whitsunays with family), and sheepishly wandered into HIA without resume or anything. I walked out of that office about two hours later after I.C. making the time to see me and also making me feel very welcome/cup of coffee/talk about all sorts of things and about life in general. There wasn't a job for me straight away, but that wasn't the point.
There are people who will take the time, and others who think the world revolves around them. I guess it is just human nature. Some don't even know they are being rude, and admittedly, some are a bit too precious and need to harden-up a bit.
Yo Jez, your logbook will speak for itself 'ole mate, if he's rude and nasty, then the loss isn't yours.
Be Cool,
Ops.
If he is that busy, then why doesn't he do like many CP's? Set aside one morning a week for interviews, word will soon get around and he'll be able to get on with his job in peace.
I've never had a CP be rude to my face when looking for a flying job (OK there was one rude/arrogant bastard, but I was working for him in Rose Bay for a while), but at 6'4" and of respectable build, I guess I don't get the lip others do.
I once stopped over on Hamilton Island one day a bit over 5 years ago (was in the middle of a sailing holiday around the Whitsunays with family), and sheepishly wandered into HIA without resume or anything. I walked out of that office about two hours later after I.C. making the time to see me and also making me feel very welcome/cup of coffee/talk about all sorts of things and about life in general. There wasn't a job for me straight away, but that wasn't the point.
There are people who will take the time, and others who think the world revolves around them. I guess it is just human nature. Some don't even know they are being rude, and admittedly, some are a bit too precious and need to harden-up a bit.
Yo Jez, your logbook will speak for itself 'ole mate, if he's rude and nasty, then the loss isn't yours.
Be Cool,
Ops.
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exmexican, your right, it would be arrogance personofied..... sounds like thats what he needs though.
(your also right about not giving away too much of my mind........ wouldnt wanna end up an ATPL in the wild west now would I)
freeks, your also right mate....... I would also gaurantee he would remember me a while afterwards though, and if he was a little bit more civil to the next bloke that walked in the door, it will have been worth it........ it would be worth it just for personal satisfaction actually. and I might just add, DILIGAF.
I like being 6'1 and ugly, I dont get people being arrogant until after I've left.
(your also right about not giving away too much of my mind........ wouldnt wanna end up an ATPL in the wild west now would I)
freeks, your also right mate....... I would also gaurantee he would remember me a while afterwards though, and if he was a little bit more civil to the next bloke that walked in the door, it will have been worth it........ it would be worth it just for personal satisfaction actually. and I might just add, DILIGAF.
I like being 6'1 and ugly, I dont get people being arrogant until after I've left.
Wiz,
Were you born ugly, or did a long line of 6'2" blokes make you that way?
(Damn, wish I knew how to put those little face thingies in my messages!)
Is the beer still cold in Leonora?
Were you born ugly, or did a long line of 6'2" blokes make you that way?
(Damn, wish I knew how to put those little face thingies in my messages!)
Is the beer still cold in Leonora?
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Hey Ops Norm, was it the rum, the beer, the backpackers, or the weather at CSP that gave you the 'respectable build' - or has something changed since I saw you last.....? Cheers mate Morris does use the aircraft for general CHTR and they look like cr@p. It might be nice to get the hours but it would be embarassing to have to apologise for the aircraft to customers paying premium rates. Glad to hear they're well maintained, but I have always considered maintenance to be a holistic thing - the trims and the paint are also important factors in maintaining a corrosion free airframe.
Heya Jamair! Mate, a healthy thirst, a combination of the fantastic climate of the interior, a very healthy thirst, an 'honest' days work on a cattle station .... did I mention an extraordinarily healthy thirst? 
all conspired to produce a well-padded product of outback life.
Such a pity about such things as hangovers...
How's the Az? Did you end-up doing that run through here back when? Sorry if I missed you, have had a bit on of late, including preparations for a life-long bond...
A mutual aquaintence of yours and mine was going to say "g'day" when/if you flew in too....
Regards,
Ops.
.... did I mention an extraordinarily healthy thirst? all conspired to produce a well-padded product of outback life.Such a pity about such things as hangovers...
How's the Az? Did you end-up doing that run through here back when? Sorry if I missed you, have had a bit on of late, including preparations for a life-long bond...
A mutual aquaintence of yours and mine was going to say "g'day" when/if you flew in too....
Regards,
Ops.
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Exmex, Mate, I was born ugly. I was trained and paid to belt people, with the gentlemanly art of boxing...... and a few years of hanging around ringers, drillers, miners and other uncouth types has filled the knowlege gaps in the ungentlemanly arts............ and if they do manage to get the better of me,,,, I just go and have a few more rums, grow to ten feet tall, bullet proof and grow five rows of teeth.
Dunno about the beer. its awfull stuff, but the rum and bourbon are just fine.
all ya gotta do is click on em and viola 
( and an ATPL at that. sheesh)
Dunno about the beer. its awfull stuff, but the rum and bourbon are just fine.
all ya gotta do is click on em and viola
( and an ATPL at that. sheesh)
Hey wiz,
Those five rows of teeth minus one after daisy struck back with her tip tank eh!
Thanks for the hoon yesterday! Mum's still raving about it!
CS
Those five rows of teeth minus one after daisy struck back with her tip tank eh!
Thanks for the hoon yesterday! Mum's still raving about it!
CS
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Ops - marriage, a great institution......but you know what they say about institutions Seriously, goodonya. I'll drink to your health & happiness.
Nah, the pax got as far as BDV and changed plans - they do that. Mutual acquaintance???
Someone actually admits to knowing both u & me??? 
The Aztruck is good, gettin 2 x new noise makers next week....still figurin out how to pay for that but.....
I have also recruited two new flight crew, to support daddies little co-pilot. They are expected to arrive in about two weeks and will be designated as SOs. The leader of the opposition / minister for finances / head of the war department is looking forward to their arrival as it will significantly reduce her peronal burden. Their formal titles will depend on plumbing arrangements - watch this space.
Wiz - if you're 6'2" how did you get your mouth down to Daisies tip tank level....or is that getting too personal.....should this move to Jet Blast?
Seriously, goodonya. I'll drink to your health & happiness.Nah, the pax got as far as BDV and changed plans - they do that. Mutual acquaintance???
Someone actually admits to knowing both u & me??? The Aztruck is good, gettin 2 x new noise makers next week....still figurin out how to pay for that but.....
I have also recruited two new flight crew, to support daddies little co-pilot. They are expected to arrive in about two weeks and will be designated as SOs. The leader of the opposition / minister for finances / head of the war department is looking forward to their arrival as it will significantly reduce her peronal burden. Their formal titles will depend on plumbing arrangements - watch this space.
Wiz - if you're 6'2" how did you get your mouth down to Daisies tip tank level....or is that getting too personal.....should this move to Jet Blast?
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Pays what he should? ahaha. I know of 2 instances where he exploited the 400 hr types to cary the bags for him. Sat in his office a few times and I say he is an absolute subhuman. How dare he talk to people the way he does. If he was not in aviation with the glut of candidates, he would just have 2 pretty crap motorcycles in the garage of a flat in goodna.