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wondering 28th April 2023 03:11


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11426733)
GAME CHANGER!!!!

if you don’t have a Russian passport and are in occupied Ukraine you will be jailed and or deported starting 1 july 2024, most will not qualify for citizenship.

From reports, deportations have started, but this makes it official.

That´s two options. Gulag or become a RuZZian citizen and get drafted.

[email protected] 28th April 2023 06:32

You need to match the fighter with the available and compatible weaponry to do the job, not just play top trumps with aircraft specs.

[email protected] 28th April 2023 06:34


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11426751)
"... over the Baltic Sea near Britain".

Hmmm.

Yes, did someone move the FIR boundary when we weren't looking?

NutLoose 28th April 2023 09:19

Massive air strikes last night.

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UWAS 28th April 2023 09:23

Is it me with a mistake (again!) ? Nutloose posted at #129 and 154 film of Dave. In the Youtube #129 his left eye as we view is apparently damaged. In the #154 post the patch is over the right eye as you view. Thoughts?

Ohrly 28th April 2023 09:27


Originally Posted by UWAS (Post 11426984)
Is it me with a mistake (again!) ? Nutloose posted at #129 and 154 film of Dave. In the Youtube #129 his left eye as we view is apparently damaged. In the #154 post the patch is over the right eye as you view. Thoughts?

One of them is mirrored. His hair is swept from good eye to bad eye in both.

ORAC 28th April 2023 09:38

Detailed electrified rail logistics lines and their traction stations in the Russian near and occupied territories (the latter AFU has prioritized as High Value Targets) are available here.

Includes
Traction Stations
Transmission Stations
Documented Events

https://t.co/OUKdZgEKkF

ORAC 28th April 2023 10:42

Slowly information is coming out about the Russian Navy ships operating around NordStream before the attacks. E.g.

The presence of SS-750 with a DSRV submersible is **highly suspicious**

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...251575298.html


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a1b35571c.jpeg

Sepp 28th April 2023 10:45


Originally Posted by UWAS (Post 11426984)
Is it me with a mistake (again!) ? Nutloose posted at #129 and 154 film of Dave. In the Youtube #129 his left eye as we view is apparently damaged. In the #154 post the patch is over the right eye as you view. Thoughts?

As Ohrly says, the pic in #154 is reversed. Clearly taken with the "selfie" camera on a smartphone, which will act as a mirror and hence reverse the image. Quite why the software can't at least offer to rectify that, is beyond me.

NutLoose 28th April 2023 11:32


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11426996)
Detailed electrified rail logistics lines and their traction stations in the Russian near and occupied territories (the latter AFU has prioritized as High Value Targets) are available here.

Includes
Traction Stations
Transmission Stations
Documented Events

https://t.co/OUKdZgEKkF

Trying to disrupt the resupply network for the forthcoming offensive?

NutLoose 28th April 2023 13:28

A fascinating look at Russia’s nuclear stockpile and that they are trying to hide the true state of play.

https://kyivindependent.com/russia-t...ear-stockpile/

As for the much vaunted Satan missiles the propagandists keep bleating on about.

From the article


​​​​​​​For instance, Russia's Strategic Nuclear Forces claim to operate 46 heavy missiles R-36M2 Voyevoda (commonly known in the West under the NATO name, SS-18 Satan), which entered service in the 1970s and 1980s.

These missiles make up the bulk of Russia’s nuclear power, with one missile designed to carry up to 10 warheads with a yield of up to 1 megaton (equivalent to 1 million tons of TNT). For comparison, the bomb that was used against Hiroshima in 1945 had a yield of 16 kilotons (16,000 tons of TNT).

But the R-36M2 Voyevoda missiles are considered to have long passed their operational life, especially given the fact that most missile types are designed to sustain between 10 and 15 years of service, with the possibility of extension following test launches and checkups.

Russia has been running a program to extend the use of R-36s since as far back as 2003.

The R-36 operation and production history is closely tied to Ukraine's Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, which terminated the missile's maintenance for Russia in 2015.

In 2018 and 2019, the Kremlin again announced its plans to extend the use of R-36M2 systems. But even since then, there have been little to no test launches, which suggests that the missiles are not being extended anymore, and that there’s no certainty regarding their operational status after so many years in service.

Inevitably, the old R-36s are being gradually retired, according to Pavel Luzin, a Russia defense policy expert with the U.S.-based Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy.

"This process began a long time ago, and it's a natural thing," the expert said.

“You can extend the use of R-36M2 on paper for as long as you want, but delivery vehicles, navigation components, propellent elements run out of their time. There is the reduction of not only missiles but, for instance, nuclear-armed submarines and even bombers. Not only R-36M2s, but also Topol and Topol-M missile systems are also being removed from service.”

fdr 28th April 2023 13:55


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11426733)
GAME CHANGER!!!!

if you don’t have a Russian passport and are in occupied Ukraine you will be jailed and or deported starting 1 july 2024, most will not qualify for citizenship.

From reports, deportations have started, but this makes it official.


That is a war crime. Has been for some time. Naughty Vlad.

pasta 28th April 2023 14:43


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11427099)
A fascinating look at Russia’s nuclear stockpile and that they are trying to hide the true state of play.

And that's not even considering the components that were sold to finance yachts, stored incorrectly, built on the cheap, or only ever existed on paper.

Of course, if they really are stupid enough to use a nuclear weapon (and my uneducated impression is that they're not) they only need one that works...

jolihokistix 28th April 2023 14:48


Originally Posted by fdr (Post 11427114)
That is a war crime. Has been for some time. Naughty Vlad.

In for a penny, in for a pound. Imagine the outcry if any tiny percentage of this was committed by a Western politician.

NutLoose 28th April 2023 14:49

Updated Google maps of Hostomel.

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NutLoose 28th April 2023 14:52

Total opposite to Putin.

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Video Mixdown 28th April 2023 15:15


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 11427141)
In for a penny, in for a pound. Imagine the outcry if any tiny percentage of this was committed by a Western politician.

That's the difference between being a state with an army rather than an army with a state, and we see the sort of corrupt and totalitarian societies that are associated with the latter. You can argue all you like that political squabbles hold our countries back and create division, but compared with the alternative I know which I prefer.

NutLoose 28th April 2023 15:29

Chances are it might work just after lift off… ;)

Ninthace 28th April 2023 16:02


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11427144)

Nonsense, Putin walks to work most days. You don't need trams in a bunker.

tdracer 28th April 2023 16:06


Originally Posted by fdr (Post 11427114)
That is a war crime. Has been for some time. Naughty Vlad.

He's well past caring about such things. This would actually be pretty low on his list of war crimes.
After all, you can only hang him once.


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