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DaveReidUK 19th May 2023 06:31


Originally Posted by Winemaker (Post 11436914)
Really, that looks faked to me.

I think the expression you're searching for is "artist's impression".

[email protected] 19th May 2023 09:06


Follow on to the Russian BMEWS scandal - now escalating and being linked to other programmes and up the chain of command…
Senior Officer corruption shock horror! - just a larger scale and more blatant version of the MoD revolving doorway to industry in the UK perhaps....

NutLoose 19th May 2023 09:26

This propagandist just does not get what an all out nuclear war would entail, talk about delusional.


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golfbananajam 19th May 2023 09:35


Originally Posted by Video Mixdown (Post 11436915)
If he spends a lot of time in a bunker like that no wonder he’s potty. Occasionally I had to work in the one at STC and found it a deeply (sic) unpleasant place to be.

Spent some time in there myself, and at Bentley Priory and Northwood, and I agree (though it was much easier to get lost at N'wood)

NutLoose 19th May 2023 10:01

Reports coming in that the US will allow countries to provide F-16’s

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NutLoose 19th May 2023 10:17

Lol, I wonder what it takes

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Wokkafans 19th May 2023 10:27

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NutLoose 19th May 2023 10:29

That’s a serious amount of vehicles.

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GeeRam 19th May 2023 10:30


Originally Posted by Video Mixdown (Post 11436915)
Occasionally I had to work in the one at STC and found it a deeply (sic) unpleasant place to be.

I can imagine, as I worked on site building the thing and that was bad enough.

NutLoose 19th May 2023 10:40

13 men 30 hours..

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NutLoose 19th May 2023 10:48

Scores on the doors Officer wise..


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jolihokistix 19th May 2023 10:51

I like the idea of sending a tank transporter or three round and round a ring road for a day or two, such as in Leicester, Manchester, Leeds Birmingham. Now, where are all these vehicles going, I wonder? Makes my head spin.

pasta 19th May 2023 10:52

Tallying up the Western hardware that Russia claims to have destroyed - their greatest success seems to have been taking out 250% of the HIMARS supplied to Ukraine:

NutLoose 19th May 2023 10:55

Remember the Ukrainian Stormer that got it by the lancer, well it got off lightly and I would imagine it will be repaired.

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Herod 19th May 2023 11:20


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11437018)
This propagandist just does not get what an all out nuclear war would entail, talk about delusional.




https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...Cxgdi54oYuAAAA

​​​​​​​"Nuclear strikes do not end a war" If memory serves, there have only been two, and they certainly ended a war

Old Bricks 19th May 2023 11:51

When we moved from the "old" bunker at HQSTC to the sparkly new one, it was actually quite a pleasant environment compared with WW2 conditions. As part of the move, we were briefed on the new bunker and how everything worked - or should work. One of the statements from the briefer was that the new bunker, whilst not proof against a direct hit from a nuclear weapon, would be OK in the case of a "near miss". He was unable to answer the inevitable question "How near?", but, as a comforting aside, pointed out that everything in the bunker was stressed to cope with "n"G, including the smart, stainless steel toilets, thus provoking the next question as to why said toilets were not fitted with 4-point safety belts in case the near-miss happened whilst a non-"n"G-resistant human was doing his/her biz. End of briefing.

ORAC 19th May 2023 12:02

Lots of amusing stories about the HQSTC bunker, such as all the types of plugs and the time and cost to be able to bring in a kettle - but none really relevant to this thread…

Flyhighfirst 19th May 2023 12:58


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 11437084)
"Nuclear strikes do not end a war" If memory serves, there have only been two, and they certainly ended a war

when you are the only one with them it is a quick way to end a war. If you are using them against someone who also has them it’s a quick way to end humanity.

That being said, my personal opinion is that should Russia use 2 or 3 tactical nukes the west wouldn’t respond.

Less Hair 19th May 2023 13:02

I'd say they would. And Russia anticipates the same.

Video Mixdown 19th May 2023 13:44


Originally Posted by Flyhighfirst (Post 11437129)
That being said, my personal opinion is that should Russia use 2 or 3 tactical nukes the west wouldn’t respond.

Any discussion along these lines is pure speculation, but for all the bluster and threats I don't think they'd dare do that. They lost control of the situation in Ukraine on day one and it's just gone from bad to worse for them ever since. Throwing nuclear weapons into the mix would bring a whole new level of pain for them. What international friends they still have would turn on them and I strongly suspect they have been told exactly what would happen to any of their forces located outside Russia's borders. In short, they would lose far more than they could gain - it would be an act of national suicide.
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