Reuters: Zelensky visits liberated Kherson.
President Volodymyr Zelensky is visiting the city of Kherson, according to a Reuters witness. Kherson was liberated by Ukrainian troops on Nov. 11. |
Russian mobilised troops have lost half their number killed under constant Ukrainian bombardment near Svatove in under a month. They are drinking out of puddles and are being fed only every two or three days, but fear being shot by their own side if they try to surrender.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
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Having never been involved in military procurement, I don't know how you overcome the problem that after the initial orders - unlike supermarket-biscuits - you cannot rely on any new orders for perhaps years, which gives big problems about ordering parts with long lead-times, keeping skills up-to-date and having expensive factory space taken up by assembly-lines for non-moving product. |
Puting your point across to the Lt Colonel. :)
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Supposedly all identified and included in the contract as part of the CADMID cycle (Concept, Assessment, Design, Manufacrure, In-Service, Disposal).
e.g. The product can be designed so that it open-source and modular so that software & hardware can be easily replaced and up graded during its life, so you don’t have to produce and stockpile spares at the start fo4 fear of not being able to source them. Supposedly one o& the design points for the NGAD.. Not much you can do about the production line - look at those for the F-22 and C-17. When they’re gone - they’re gone. Disposal remains a pipe dream in many cases - which is why SSN/SSBN hulks are tied up alongside decades later - and ships full of asbestos are sold to scrappers in Asia to export the problem… |
Antonivskyi bridge from above, that's going to take a heck of a time to repair, it might be better starting again.
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Is there a rough inventory of the vast ammunition store in Transnistria that the Russians were hoping to link up to and access?
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11330594)
General Staff: Russia amasses troops near Melitopol in Zaporizhzhia Oblast.
Russian forces are bringing more troops and building fortifications around Melitopol in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, the General Staff reported on Nov. 13. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11330657)
Puting your point across to the Lt Colonel. :)
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...DSidK0qJcsAAAA How long before fragging become de rigueur |
If true, the Southern/Left bank of the Dnipro has become "Grey Zone." It is land held by neither side as AFU & RFAF patrols skirmish with one another.
The other implication, if true, is the 49th Combined Arms Army really did lose tens of thousands in the withdrawal. Again, if true, then the Russians strategic position in the south of Ukraine has become untenable. There is too much land and not enough Russian troops or logistics to hold it. You need some minimum density of infantry forces to hold ground and Russia has fallen below whatever that magic number is in southern Ukraine. If Ukrainian SF can occupy Russian abandoned towns on the Left/Southern bank of the Dnipro….. “Unconfirmed news from #Olehsky,Kherson . UA forces seem to have liberated the town. 🇷🇺 forces withdrew after relentless artillery & HIMARS strikes all night & morning. 🇺🇦 SOF entered the city this morning.” |
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🇷🇺 forces on the Kilburn spit have retreated to a newly created defensive line in the bottleneck of the peninsula half way between Herois'ke & Rybal'che. The defensive line stretches all the way across (4 km) and consists of trenches and vehicle reventments.
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ORAC, Has it been confirmed that the Ukraine forces are on the peninsula? Or anywere on the east bank of the river?
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Who in their right mind OK's piling up rockets like this?
And to make it worse it seems to be SOP in Russian military as there's been footage of piled up (read: thrown randomly in the woods) tank ammo, arty ammo, MANPADS, ATGMs etc etc. throughout temporarily occupied Ukraine. Ukraine may have an ex comedian as a president but the Russian army is the comedy. |
Originally Posted by rixt
(Post 11330878)
ORAC, Has it been confirmed that the Ukraine forces are on the peninsula? Or anywere on the east bank of the river?
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11330887)
Who in their right mind OK's piling up rockets like this?
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Interesting "tank's eye view" of various tank obstacles. Not sure where this is
Humorous comment that goes with this: Putin: Make dragon teeth, two meters high! Shoigu: 1,75 m will be ok. We will take care of rest of money. Engineer: We could make them 1,5 m. No one will notice. Rest be my bonus Lieutenant: Comrades, make them 1m. Then we can buy vodka. Privates: Less tooth, more vodka!
Originally Posted by rattman
No and it would be stupid to assume the UA military would confirm it
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Referenc3 the reported attack on the Kilburn spit…
IF the attack on the west side of the river is true (as i think it is) then ukr has a bridge head, they will expand it, and there is nothing russia can do about it right now. and here is why. 1 with the area they attacked they have 3 routs of supply via sea and they can come from the west to east via air (mi-8s ). they are using light fighters and so dont need the huge supply chain that armored formations do. 2. The enemy (MOSTLY) in front of them is the 22nd corps. its a joke. its a support army corps without combat troops. artillery, rockets, MPs, and engineers... what do you think ukr paratroopers are going to do to them??…. and they are FAST. a bunch of SF using trucks and ATVs directing arty and drones can sweep areas in front of them well prior to the follow on infantry has to engage them. |
Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11330897)
No and it would be stupid to assume the UA military would confirm it
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I am still trying to figure this one out, for one it is international waters not Russian and two it also kills any trade they may be getting unless of course they are worried about a ship going boom as it passes under the bridge.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11330965)
I am still trying to figure this one out, for one it is international waters not Russian and two it also kills any trade they may be getting unless of course they are worried about a ship going boom as it passes under the bridge.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1591386262333947904 |
Originally Posted by fdr
(Post 11330979)
No! oh, the humanity. For pitys sake, the raccoon didn't ask to be absconded and press ganged into being a BTG commander! After the RuZZian troops have won the heart and mind of the racoon, there will need to be a rape kit administered to this poor unfortunate creature.
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Way things are going with casualties and promotions the raccoon will make general and commander of the eastern front within a couple of weeks - and fall out a window before Xmas…
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Pundits given up on winning militarily and now fantasising about recruiting kids as partisans to act as saboteurs behind Ukrainian lines as they advance..
Love the bit at the end - the Ukrainians are better off because they have toilet bowls and we don’t…. |
1/ Interesting things appear to be happening currently on the Kinburn Peninsula (often erroneously called the Kinburn Spit), south-west of Kherson. Although exactly what is still uncertain, it's worth taking a look at why Kinburn matters.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...546297345.html |
Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 11330713)
Is there a rough inventory of the vast ammunition store in Transnistria that the Russians were hoping to link up to and access?
(It sounded like old ammo aplenty for outdated equipment.) I recall at the beginning of this conflict reading about a US\NATO financed program to depose of Ukraine's stockpile of Soviet era munitions. Cannot find the exact source now ( try searching for ukraine and ammunition! lol) - but the following article gives an overview https://theworld.org/stories/2015-01...landmines-dust A small quote from there "The new government in Kyiv was now in charge of more than 80 highly volatile depots that held 7 million small arms and light weapons, and as much as 2 million tons of conventional munitions, even though NATO warned that they were designed to hold far less than that." Here is another link that mentions that in one single incident a few years ago (likely sabotage) 70,000 tonnes of ammunition were destroyed. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-expl.../28777991.html So not only did the west ( well UK and US) guarantee Ukraine's borders in the Budapest memorandum, we also were actively involved in paying Ukraine to destroy ex soviet munitions that they now do not have enough of. |
This UNGA (UN General Assembly) vote will haunt Russia financially for decades. Large sums, which can be retrieved for reparations, are already frozen on Western bank accounts, around 300 billion USD. That vote gives legal basis in those countries (all of them voted yes) to impound it.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11330588)
Having never been involved in military procurement, I don't know how you overcome the problem that after the initial orders - unlike supermarket-biscuits - you cannot rely on any new orders for perhaps years, which gives big problems about ordering parts with long lead-times, keeping skills up-to-date and having expensive factory space taken up by assembly-lines for non-moving product.
Excellent question. From an MoD perspective, welcome to Materiel and Financial Provisioning Policy (not procurement)! Managing this within MoD is solely a function of Service HQs. If only they knew it. If procurers are having to do it, it’s often far too late. It’s not specifically addressed in CADMID for individual requirements. It’s a core function within MoD, without which CADMID planning is doomed to failure. Last time I saw it implemented properly was 1988, by the RN. (Easily dated, as the section responsible was disbanded in April 1988 following the Hallifax Savings, and has never been replaced. The RAF’s equivalent was already gone). I recall one particular event in 1990, when AMSO (RAF) refused to renew maintenance contracts for the upkeep of the RN’s Environmental Test Chambers. They were urgently needed for Merlin (especially), Sea King, Lynx and SHAR radar testing. (And shared with the RAF on Tornado, EFA, etc). One company, Thorn-EMI Varian, wrote to an AVM asking which car park at their Hayes factory he would like them dumped in, because there was no longer a means of paying for storage, never mind upkeep. The plinths of the ones held at Ferranti, South Gyle, in a hangar-sized building, soon rotted and they leaked like a sieve. Just as we were transitioning to war… |
Hope he lives in a bungalow.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11331131)
This UNGA (UN General Assembly) vote will haunt Russia financially for decades. Large sums, which can be retrieved for reparations, are already frozen on Western bank accounts, around 300 billion USD. That vote gives legal basis in those countries (all of them voted yes) to impound it.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....479da3470d.png Better than nothing... But a fair bit of LMF The resolution is short on substantive interventions. It's nice it reaffirms the demand by the UN for Russia to go home from all Ukraine's internationally recognised lands... And if they don't nothing will be done by the UN in spite of the disregard of the Article 27(3) rule that denies Russia a vote and therefore Russia has no Veto in the UNSC... A point disregarded for convenience by ... Those fine people who diligently and tirelessly work to preserve the polish on the seats I. The UNGA, and stuff all else. That's OP1, OP2 -3 officially raise a bit of eyebrow against Russia, Vlad will quake at that. OP 4 adds a register of damages for future weasling over... OP5 is the, we are so tired, we need a nap. Vlad gets away with his brutality because the UN breaches their own rule 27(3 and allow him to do so. Frankly, only the Scandinavian girls seem to have the backbone to actually abide with the UN Charter, my govt doesn't they could care less. |
The best summary I've seen of air war so far in Ukraine.
Smart young bloke, concludes with interesting prognosis about the platform options for stepping up Ukraine combat air power in the short and then longer terms. I'd be interested to hear what those here think. |
reports that UA has either captured or russia has abandoned Oleshky and Nova Kakhovka. Both are on the east side of the dnipro river
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11331131)
This UNGA (UN General Assembly) vote will haunt Russia financially for decades. Large sums, which can be retrieved for reparations, are already frozen on Western bank accounts, around 300 billion USD. That vote gives legal basis in those countries (all of them voted yes) to impound it.
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