ORAC, Some of that footage in the video shows a Turkish Anka UAV being shot down from 0:42.
Some other footage showing the Su-24 Fencer crews after ejecting and in their parachutes. Su-24 shoot down. Wreckage of Turkish Anka S UAVs shot down. |
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Syrian Su-24 shoot down.
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Personally I wouldn't be dancing and waving my gun next to the wreckage of a state-of-the-art Turkish drone which my forces had just shot down. Just asking for trouble.
Also, that parachute descent must have been pretty frightening, not knowing who was going to greet you. I assume Syrian and Russian CSAR assets are non-existent? I recall the Russians ballsed-up their last(?) CSAR attempt following the 2015 shootdown. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 10700757)
Personally I wouldn't be dancing and waving my gun next to the wreckage of a state-of-the-art Turkish drone which my forces had just shot down. Just asking for trouble.
Russia has now put Russian Military Police with SAA units, making it clear that fire on them then it is coming back at you quickly. Also SAF and RuAF have been very active today with a lot of ground lost being recovered. US Govt has as expected told Turkey to GFY in relation to any military support. Given Turkey attitude on Incilrik this hardly a surprise and Greece vetoed any Nato agreement. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 10700757)
Also, that parachute descent must have been pretty frightening, not knowing who was going to greet you. I assume Syrian and Russian CSAR assets are non-existent? I recall the Russians ballsed-up their last(?) CSAR attempt following the 2015 shootdown.
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Turkish drone background scarily well presented. Efficient and deadly, especially in coordinated swarm attacks.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...170724302.html |
Swarms of drones:
//twitter.com/redintelpanda/status/1234978836472721409?s=21 WWW |
WWW: FWIW: the US and the Chinese have been working on and developing practical drone swarm concepts for at least five years (and likely for a lot longer than that).
That the Turks are developing an organic drone capability and one of their sharp engineers/scientists researched drone swarms while studying in the US is, IMO, good for them, and rough on their various foes. (The link that jolihokistix provided is good stuff) |
Did someone say drone swarm?
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The Turkish military has killed 21 Syrian troops after two Turkish soldiers were killed in Idlib earlier, the state news agency reported on Friday, citing the Turkish defence ministry.
On Thursday, two soldiers were killed and three others were wounded after Syrian government forces opened fire in the north-western Syrian town of Idlib, the Turkish defence ministry said. The statement from the ministry early on Friday morning also said that it destroyed two artillery pieces and two missile launchers. It came hours after Turkey agreed a ceasefire in the area with Russia following weeks of deadly exchanges between the two countries’ military forces in the war-torn region. The ceasefire deal between agreed between the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, and his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, at the Kremlin on Thursday came into effect at midnight in Idlib....... |
Both snuck out whilst the world is otherwise distracted.....
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rk-opcw-report Syrian regime blamed for sarin gas attacks in landmark UN report https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...182024266.html UN: 'Highly probable' Syria gov't and allies attacked hospitals |
Who do you believe?
Not having a go at you Orac. The web of truth is twisted. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 10744212)
Both snuck out whilst the world is otherwise distracted.....
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rk-opcw-report Syrian regime blamed for sarin gas attacks in landmark UN report https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...182024266.html UN: 'Highly probable' Syria gov't and allies attacked hospitals |
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i...eppo-0dql96g8v
Israeli jets hit Iran‑linked research base in Aleppo Israel has stepped up its bombardment of military sites linked to Iran and Hezbollah in Syria, with a top-secret research base the latest target. Heavy raids near Aleppo and in the east of Syria on Monday night killed a number of fighters from militias linked to Iran, according to local reports. The target in Aleppo was said to be a building belonging to the Scientific Studies and Research Centre, one of the two main bases for Syria’s chemical and biological warfare programmes. The site is also thought to be a key research centre for Iran’s missile development programme, and a transit point for the supply of missiles to the Iran-backed Lebanese militia Hezbollah........ The target in eastern Syria, near Mayadeen, was less clear. However, it is on the main route used by Iranian-backed militias to cross from Iraq to Syria. Fourteen fighters, both Iraqi and Iranian, were said to have been killed in the strikes....... The raids were the fifth and sixth in the past two weeks by Israel inside Syria. Iran has made little response. |
Looks like the Russians are back in business, air strike in Syria.
Russian air strikes have hit Syria's last major rebel bastion for the first time since a March ceasefire came into force, a war monitor said on Wednesday. The Russian strikes on Tuesday evening and at dawn on Wednesday hit an area of the northwest where the boundaries of Hama, Idlib and Latakia provinces meet, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said. The Hayat Tahrir al-Sham alliance (HTS), led by Syria's former Al-Qaeda affiliate, and its hardline allies enjoy a significant presence in the area, the Britain-based monitoring group added. (I dropped in a quick map for context; attribution for original map is here). |
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Confusion over whether they were shot down or collided. I would have thought they’d have been procedurally separated in height operating in the same area.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...official-says/ Two US drones collide and crash over Idlib, Syria, defense official says |
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...last-in-syria/
Russian General Killed, Two Troops Injured in Roadside Blast in Syria A Russian major-general was killed and two troops were injured in Syria Tuesday after vehicles they were traveling in were hit by an improvised explosive device (IED), the Russian Ministry of Defence has announced. The blast was said to have taken place near the At-Taim oil field, about 15 km outside the city of Deir ez-Zor, with the Russian convoy said to have been hit while returning from a humanitarian action........ |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 10864754)
Confusion over whether they were shot down or collided.
I would have thought they’d have been procedurally separated in height operating in the same area. Two US drones collide and crash over Idlib, Syria, defense official says Procedural separation is no guarantee of collision avoidance. Friend of mine died in one such collision in 1991 off of the coast of San Diego. |
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