jojo636

My son went through RAAF direct entry a few years ago and learned much from PPRuNe, and much from listening to people already in the military.

Lesson 1: In the military you're in an adult world and expected to act like one. If you can't take advice, you can always look back upon your (short) time in the military and realise the few months you spent there weren't entirely wasted. During training you often only get told things once - if you haven't been listening, you get scrubbed. Around 50% of people who started on Flight Screening, then BFTS, then 2FTS, didn't make it.

Lesson 2: I work in a different professional area but, people who cannot write usually do not get employed or, if they do, don't last long.

Going on my son's experience, it is worth the effort, but be prepared to learn from all.

regards
Layman

I spent 13 years in the RAAF including 5 years instructing at 2FTS on the Macchi and PC9. My information may be old but hopefully, still relevant. As others have said, you will definately need to address your spelling and sentence construction when you are writing an essay otherwise you will draw unwarranted attention to yourself. Having said that, just about all the military (and civil) pilots I have ever met have been terrible at English and grammar so it's not that important, but you are trying to create the impression to a selection board that you have your act together. At the end of the day, they try and teach you how to write at Officer Training School and through other various avenues but if you have the raw skills, you will find it a lot easier.
At a selection board, they are trying to get a feel for how you will cope with the demands of flying training. It would help to be very familiar with the types of aircraft that are flown, where they are based, what squadrons operate them, a general understanding of the role of each aircraft and how they operate together and with other air forces. Having a knowledge of basic aircraft flight principles would be helpful. Try and find out what the role of a junior officer in the military is. When I went through it was just to drink heaps of piss and be a fool. When caught, you just had to say "guilty as charged sir" . Things have changed somewhat however and an officer is expected to not only perform his primary duty but also any number of secondary duties, some of which may be quite a task. In your annual Officer Evaluation Report, your performance in these secondary duties is reviewed. They are also trying to find out how motivated you are. The course is long and difficult and in 5 years instruction, I rarely met a student who didn't lose motivation at some stage. Motivation is essential. You can have the best aptitude score but if they don't think you are motivated to see it through, you won't get selected.
The flying training system is a lot better than what it used to be. The days of the abusive, angry instructor are long past. If you put in the effort, the system will do its best to pass you. To pass does require steady progression and you definately do have to have an ability to take criticism in a mature fashion and to go away and learn from the debrief. If you make it on to the course, you will generally have the raw ability - it's what you do with it that counts. I had a student once with low ability but the tenacity of ten men. He recently finished an F/A 18 exchange with the US Navy. Layman is correct when he says you are operating in an adult world. Integrity is paramount. If you can't be trusted in small things, how can you be trusted with that Hercules for a week overseas?
When it comes to dealing with psychologists and writing essays, be yourself. These people can spot bull**** a mile away.
Anyway, I hope to have helped. Best of luck with it all.

Joe,
As an Ex GD RAAF, I'd like to offer you some advice to help your quest.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Go and read your first post, would you invest the time to help you, after reading that?

You may not realise it, however you have stumbled into the best source of information that you could possibly have. So be very humble, go back edit you first post, do it properly and admit you were wrong to Like this do That.

Who knows someone reading this forum might be on your board or instructing you down the track......

Then and only then you will get the help that you ask for and perhaps more than you could imagine. ;)


Over to you.

wrong attitude buddie .... :(

take notice of the posts above or you are going to "blow it"

JOJO
As a longtime Oz tri service flying instructor my advice to you is don't waste your time - you might have the aptitude but you don't have the attitude.
GAGS
E86

Welcome to the viper's pit young lad.

This place is a good source of info. Some of it is ill advised and under informed though. Regardless, the trick is sort out the wheat from the chaff. Something you will get used to should you get beyond the next step.

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I just want to say sorry guys.

I know it seems i have the wrong attitude, but if i did, i wouldnt be on this forum seeking help. I know my written communication is poor, so next time i will go over what i write thoroughly. English was most worst subject at school.

I do appeiciate all the help given to me, but please dont think i have the wrong attitude. At the moment all i think about is being in the airforce as a pliot.

For the past monthes i've been on the defense jobs website's and other websites doing research on the profession i wish to persue. I came across this forum and realised i can recieve advice from people in this industry or from people in the same postion as me.

Once again i do apologise. I seek help and i'll i want to do is learn, that is why im on this forum. I've learnt a very big lesson in just a few posts!

Showing improvement already JOJO.
GAGS
E86
Edited
In attitude not English!

Hey

Firstly I have passed through all the process in the recruiting stage, to where I am waiting for an offer to join. I’m expecting this to happen within the next month. So I haven’t been in the services but I have had very recent access to the recruiting process.

Most of this is pretty general but enough that you should get an idea. A lot of this stuff is written in the other thread anyway.

To answer your questions directly. Yes you will have to do a written essay, you get about 10 minutes. It isn’t an outrageous guess as to what the topic is about. Your medical you have no control over so don’t worry about it. Your psych testing you have no control over so don’t worry about it.

For the defence interview you should prepare by knowing what is going on with the ADF at the moment. Example, what aircraft, where they fly from, are any deployed overseas, any current events etc. If you are as keen as what you say you are, you should know all this stuff anyway. I didn’t actually get asked any of these sort of questions, but I know some people that have.

Tamworth, I’m not sure what you are doing to prepare for the flying side of things, however certainly get some hours. Also one or two hours of aerobatics probably won’t hurt but you don’t need to be getting all Redbull air-race. I had 5hours on C152 and 2hours in a Pitts and felt that it was enough.

Here is the point that the guys above were trying to make. At this stage you will undergo a lot of constructive criticism about how you flew. If you don’t take kindly to that criticism (e.g. improve your grammar/English as above) and don’t take this criticism on board you might as well not waste your time because they will can you. The instructors are reasonably short but are very fair. You don’t get a lot of positive feedback. If they don’t criticise something you have probably done it reasonably well. Try to think of and ask pertinent questions to help yourself improve. Remember you only get one chance from here.

For the Selection Board (at Tamworth after the flying) you will definitely want to prepare. Not just in your RAAF knowledge, but also what you know and think about yourself. There is a days worth of group activities, and then the board proper. For the board they are going to put you under pressure to see how you react to it. I just treated the board as a debate. They will try and point out a perceived weakness; you need to try to counter that somehow. Once again though, everyone had a different board, as the board members adjust to the situation/your answers. The guy who got the kickass for the board, walked out thinking he had failed.

Like the guys above have written - attitude is important. When I went to flight screening (which is the first stage where I felt that I was directly competing against people) I believed that I wanted to get into the RAAF more than any of the other 8 people on the program. Note that I didn’t think that I was better than everyone else - I had the least flying hours of all the people there for example. I just thought that I wanted it more and was determined to show that. Our bunch on FSP was a cool bunch of people who wanted to help each other more than compete, so try to get that attitude happening if you can, as you can all practise and share information together.

Also I would say that you don’t sound super confident in what you are doing and why you are doing it. If you found the aptitude testing and the break stressful I would be worried. It isn’t necessarily easy but what is there to worry about? You can’t affect it while you are sitting waiting in the room. Better to put in 100% first time around, and then be done with it. Leave nothing to chance by preparing better than the other blokes.

Oh yeah and you can always use MS Word to check your posts before you submit them. Spell Check is your friend.

p.s. this turned out way longer than I thought it would!

jojo,

If you are chasing some relevent flying experience, Aerotec in Toowoomba specialises somewhat in preparing people for Tamworth. They have a CT4-E which is good fun to fly, and similar to the aircraft you will use (although aeros with the air-conditioning on is rather civilised).

Oh I dunno, that blonde dude in the corner office wasn't very short! :O :O

Yes, however ...

"Aye heave aye spiel checquer own may computer."

Chuck that into Word and it won't complain a bit. Eyes open, brain on.

Congrats to you, flighthappens, perhaps I'll see you around at Tamworth some day.

Persevere!
 

JoJo636 - I was a "blunt", ie non-aircrew, for 30-odd years in the RAAF, then discovered the [un]civil industrial world, and in all that time I've come to realise that being able to accept criticism, good or bad, and being able to determine future action accordingly is one of the strongest suits you'll need in the hand of cards that fate will deal you.
You appear to have made a good start, and as the other respondents have done, I wish you well in your chosen career, in which, unfortunately, you will need a good grasp of "English as she is spoke" to make the impression that will elevate you above the [allied] others.
Nunc est bibendum!
OB

JoJo,

As a recent flying instructor at BFTS , and having sat on a few pilot selection boards I offer the following advice;

Understand the career you are looking at undertaking. You will probably be involved in military operations. How do you feel about this ? You may drop bombs in anger, deliver special forces behind enemy lines etc.

Know the RAAF structure, its aircraft, squadrons and bases. Know the names of the RAAF Commanders.

Know the role of a pilot in the RAAF. (More paperwork (blunt stuff) than flying these days)). What "secondary duties" or other roles does a pilot have in the squadron?

What do you want to fly? Why? What if that doesn't happen? What if you fail pilots course?

Study current affairs and know changes occuring in defence. (alot happening at the moment!!)

But most importantly, be HONEST. INTEGRITY is essential and a requirement. If you don't know, say "I don't know".

Flight Screening in Tamworth;

Work hard and give 100%. A keen, eager attitude shines.
Listen to directives and perform tasks as requested. Pilot candidates must be adaptable to the RAAF way of flying.
Show leadership yet humility.
Enjoy! PM John Howard is paying.

Hope this helps. Good luck !

Having sat on a board or two and having given Bloggs a bit of lip from the back seat occasionally, I can totally agree with Hugh (Above).

Flight Screening Tamworth
 

Hey does anyone know if the ADF Pilot Selection Agency has commenced any 2 week courses for 2006.

I have noticed that on the website they have not as yet updated the flight screening wall chart?

RAAF Pilot Application -
 

For jojo636...., Enjoy.... For all other readers - Health Warning read at your own peril.....
The item below may not be of much importance to you at this time..., felt that you could benefit from the information, if only to be aware of what is happening with the RAAF's current support issues and its resource/logistics planning visions for the future. Its a bit dry to say the least, but gives you a 'feel' for what is in the pipeline from the logistics and resource perspective. Always good to read up on the latest 'happenings' and be aware of where the defence money is being spent when attending interviews etc....! By the way...., this was released on the wires today 21 Feb 06.
It has been reported that THE Defence Department will upgrade its troubled human resources systems to run the latest version of PeopleSoft software in a project expected to cost more than $100 million.
The controversial upgrade of PMKeyS (personnel management key solution) has been approved by Cabinet.
Oracle has indicated it will continue supporting the PeopleSoft platform for five years, but Defence is understood to have chosen to upgrade rather than replace its existing systems.
The PMKeyS upgrade is one of three core defence projects worth a reported $335 million over the next several years, covering its human resources, accounting and supply chain platforms.
Defence technology contractors had been concerned that any delays in deciding the future of the PMKeyS systems could have delayed plans for full integration of the three systems.
Defence had already announced it would proceed with a Mincom upgrade of its standard defence supply system and would upgrade its Roman financial software through SAP.
The integration of the three core platforms is expected to create what Defence chief information officer Air Vice-Marshall John Monaghan is calling a virtual enterprise resource planning system.
Plans for the upgrade may be pushed back following the change of minister resulting from Rob Hills retirement announcement.
The final draft of a project to upgrade the SAP-based Romans financial management systems is awaiting approval from newly appointed Defence Minister Brendan Nelson.
Despite continuing problems with PMKeyS, the Defence Department said there would be "no complication" with the upgrade.
The original PMKeyS project ran two years late and almost $40 million over budget, and has been the subject of damning Australian National Audit Office reports.
It was also found to have incurred indirect costs of more than $90 million.
The National Audit Office found the system had struggled to account for more than $700 million worth of personnel leave. "Defence is upgrading the PeopleSoft product currently in use to version 8.9," a department spokesman said. "Oracle advises that it will be able to support the product past the end of the decade."
The spokesman said there were "no delay implications" for the departments plans to integrate its human resources, supply chain and accounting systems.
The redevelopment of the systems, to create a virtual enterprise resource planning system, is seen as the most immediate challenge facing Air Vice-Marshall Monaghan in pulling Defences foundering systems together. :ok:

Hi again Joe,

I had the same problem when I joined, in that you can't be good at everything and for me that meant that English was by far my worst subject at school. But I wanted to be a pilot so I had to pass that test so here's what I did.

I thought, what are they going to ask me to do?

Write an essay, probably by giving me a topic and a limited period of time.

Now what's the subject going to be?

I picked three potential topics:
Defence of Northern Aust
Characteristics of a good leader
Why did I want to be a pilot

I then took my time and wrote out, with help, how I would answer those questions. I then practiced and practiced until I could do it perfectly.

Then I did the test, and low and behold I got characteristics of a good leader and I aced it!

It was the best of all my assessment scores, I always have a smile on my face when I think, if only they knew…. Mind you they found out later when I had to do the bloody writing skills cse :ugh:

Hope this helps and if this is what you want to do, then it will require all of your commitment.

P.s I would like to say that I did this a while ago (1987) so please don't think that you will be asked to write about one of these topics specifically.

TOO OLD 2 BE RAAF PILOT
 

Just had Pschology and Defence Interview today for ADF Pilot. I'm 33 and they keep telling me I've got next to no chance of being picked up by RAAF (My first preference) because of my age.

I say never tell me the odds!!

They do however recommend me for SSO Army Pilot.

Does anyone know if there is still any glimmer of hope for me to be picked up by RAAF on flight screening despite my age (some what discrimination). I realise I may not be suitable for FJs but would be more than happy to fly multi-engine props.

Should I continue to stick with my first pref. of RAAF or forget it completely?

:confused:

Go for it, I reckon, otherwise you'll never know.
If you stick to your guns, it shows determination, as long as you're not negative about the other options.
If I had to interview someone who was saying 'Well, I'm going to do my damndest to be a RAAF pilot, but if for some reason that can't happen, I'd still really like to fly military aircraft, so give me a shot', I'd think, fair enough and good luck.
Of course there may well be reasons why they can't, or don't want to take various people in different circumstances, but if you're up front, positive and motivated, I don't think you can go wrong.
Both services have their own cultures, to coin a buzzword, but in the end you're flying good machines (mostly) and getting good training.

Give it a go. At 33 years old you are likely to more more stable, and less worried about pimples, cars and girls. A bit of maturity (I'm assuming here) never hurts.

How many hours have you got already?

"Somewhat discrimination"
 

DTN08,

You would appear to have discriminated against yourself, by not applying up to 15 years ago. Perhaps there were good reasons for that but you will have to give a convincing explanation at any interview. Having said that, ask any RAAF QFI what is the most important quality he looks for in a student and you will get the answer "Motivation!" If you can show you possess that, you will have a fighting chance.

Good luck,

Neppie :cool:

Thanks for your responses guys..Yep will keep aiming for the top!!

Chronic.....Have about 70 hours single engine under belt. Last year I did about 6 rides in a CT4E and that rocked!!

Neptunus...Yeah I actually applied twice straight out of school, then twice whilst undertaking science degree but scores no good.

Then pursued a career in Police Service.

Thought I try again at 29 years but at that stage age restrictions applied and application rejected.

Tried again last year, and got recommended for flight screening but didnt get the call up.

Had to resit tests again and here I am today......

DTN,

From experience, some of the decisions/ recommendations coming out of the new-look rercruiting system, ie mostly civilian are laughable, particularly with regard to what they recommend people go and do. I would push ahead with the RAAF option if that's what you want- Does it say in black and white that 33 is to old???? if not, they're doing what recruiters do best, ie trying to fill slots in other areas.
There's always the navy.......:hmm:

Good luck, pm me if you need any help

Oldpinger

I know a guy who just got called up at 30 years of age.

Starting on next IOT course.

I think you need to get a waiver if you are aged over 27?

RAAF Pilot Questions
 

Hello
I am applying to be a pilot in the ADF with a preference for the RAAF. At the moment I have completed the inital testing and interviews and my file is being sent to the pilot selection agency, I am hopeful I will gain a spot at Flight screening this year.

I was informed that my test scores are competitive and was wondering if there are any ADF pilots here that could answer a few question in regards to the final stages of the application and life as a RAAF officer and Pilot.

Specifically, I have done 8 hrs in a C152 and would like to know the areas I should concentrate on before flight screening in order to give myself the best chance. Would it be beneficial to get some time in a tail dragger or do some Aerobatic's to get a feel for being inverted?

Also, apart from flying what are the other duties of an officer in the RAAF?

Many thanks:)
Andrew

Hi mate,
There are plenty of posts here on Pprune about this exact sort of thing. I recommend you try to find them using the Search feature.

If you have no luck, or it doesn't answer your questions, feel free to repost and we will do our best to answer your questions ourselves.

Cheers

Thanks, but I tried a search before I posted under RAAF and ADF and found nothing of use.

Cheers

IIRC there was a thread all about this, that was started in 2002 and always seemed to be re-surfacing every so often. The thread was started by Hornetboy. Ive tried searching for said thread to post here but i cant find it, perhaps some of the older threads got ditched when the forums were re-vamped.

If u ask nicely, one of the mods may be able to check the archives, if such things exist here, for the thread. I think it might have had a title like "RAAF aptitude testing" Fairly sure it was started by Hornetboy and full of great feedback from guys who had BTDTBTT.

J89
I didn't do flight screening when I went through the selection process, so I can't comment specifically on what they are looking for. If I had the cash, I'd probably go for an aerobatics flight - just for fun, even if it doesn't prove to be of any use. Don't spend all of your hard earned cash on civilian hours though - they are of very limited benefit. I've got good friends who had thousands of GA hours before joining the RAAF, and have gone onto fly hornets, and also guys with next to no airborne experience who also now fly fighters. In general, GA hours may help with the initial training at BFTS, but as you move through the more advanced training on the PC9, it will be of no benefit. I've never heard anyone say a bad thing about glider time though - you can't help but 'attitude fly' in a glider.
What are the other duties of a junior pilot in the RAAF - well, if the bograts in my flight are any example, you spend your time playing uckers, talking about the attrocities committed on the weekend, and generally being a universal sh*tfight. Ahhhh those were the days!!!!!
There are many jobs which you will be involved in as a junior dude in a flying squadron. Social Club Officer, Navigation Officer (ensures we have up to date maps, navigation loads for the mission planning system, charts, etc), Times Officer (collates all flying hours and cross checks with the aircraft maintenance releases etc)...........the list goes on.
All in all, it is definitely the best job in the world. No matter how much Microsoft Outlook attempts to wreck your day, you can still strap a jet on and forget about everything apart from flying. It's always sunny above the clouds, and you will work with some of the finest human beings God has ever produced.

[quote=luvmuhud]...It's always sunny above the clouds, and you will work with some of the finest human beings God has ever produced.[/quote]

Put a smile on my face you did hudlover ;)

G’day Andrew,

I’m sure there are plenty of great tips for Flight Screening but I subscribe to the KISS school of thought. Sure do a few aeros trips just to get used to the sensations, which leads to my first tip, relax and listen. Concentrate on what you’re being told, ask questions, understand what’s expected of you. Communication is King and don’t be afraid to ask a dumb question (You’ll get away with one every now and then). The other one is Honesty. If you cock up, fess up. If you didn’t like the way something played out, recognise it (as best you can), understand where improvements can be made and verbalise all these thoughts. What the company wants to see is someone who is self-critiquing and in a way independent on the path to self-improvement.

As far as the Secondary Duties side of the house goes, Look-At-My-Gorgeous-Hud covered a bunch of good ones. In my experience there are lots of opportunity to contribute to the rewriting of dated or incorrect procedures, tactics, instructions etc. The adults at the SQN are usually flat-out sorting out stuff that you don’t want to know about. So they really appreciate guys doing the leg work, taking the initiative and making things better for everyone. Apart from helping everybody else out, doing the right thing usually gets you reported well annual appraisals, which in turn help with postings, win win.

As far as this goes:

Quote:

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Originally Posted by luvmuhud

…., and you will work with some of the finest human beings God has ever produced.

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I really do genuinely agree, but you do on rare occasion get the opposite. It is a very real possibility as a Captain or Junior Officer for that matter that you will get involved in disciplinary matters. I won’t expand on the indiscretions I’ve come across in an open forum, as I don’t want it to be misconstrued as rife, it’s not. But you will be expected by the Execs to recognise and appropriately respond to departures from the rules, norms etc. Don’t ever walk away from a problem or it’ll become someone else’s and may come back to bight you too. I’ve had to tidy up someone else’s mess and it’s given me grey hairs. :*

I expect at your stage you’re rightly focussed on a fast jet career, but if you have any multi crew subsonic questions feel free to PM me. Otherwise LOVE-MY-GOTTA-GET-MY-HANDS-ON-MY-HUD is your man. :E

It’s an awesome time to be joining the RAAF, lots going on now with deployments etc and the future is very bright.

Enjoy!

Speech of the day :)

'AUSTRALIANS AT WAR' Address, Australia House, London by the PM.

http://www.pm.gov.au/news/speeches/speech565.html

Given prior to opening the Australian War Memorial London.

http://www.awmlondon.gov.au/flash.html

Hey Joker,

I was in TW for a couple of years and spent time assessing the Flight Screening candidates.
The basic purpose of the Flight Screening process is assess your potential ability to fly (IAW military protocol and processes) and to assess your potential as an officer. The flying on the CT4 and CAP10 is looking to see that you can follow instruction, learn from mistakes and develop capability over a number of sorties. The hot tip here is to listen to the QFI and accurately apply what you are asked to do, study hard at night to ensure you know all relevant attitudes, powers, techniques and generally show confidence yet humility.
The board interview will assess your leadership potential and motivation. Know the RAAF leaders, the SQNs, a/c types etc. What a/c do you want to fly and why. Read the paper and know current affairs relating to the RAAF (C17, Iraq deployment, etc). Have a think about why you want to join, how will you feel if sent on operations, time away from home on often tough conditions, your apporoach to command etc. The board assessment again is looking for guys/girls that have potential, intelligence, a motivated attitude, an understanding of your chosen career and generally will fit in. The common yardstick asked by the board is " Can I sit next to this person for 10 hours, and trust his/her abilities in war".
To answer your specific questions, I would suggest that an aerobatic flight may be of some slight advantage, at least to give you a feel for the environment. However, if money is tight, dont worry about it. The cousre is aimed at people with minimal to no experience.
As for secondary duties, there are numerous as mentioned. To add to the list, also include Crew Resource Management facilitator, Aviation Risk Management facilitator (the RAAF had recently become very AVRM aware), Information Systems co-ordinator (you look after the sqns database etc), publications officer, programmer (programs the sim and flying), Public relations contact etc. The list goes on forever. Be aware that flying is only a part of your role. You play a part in running the squadron.

Bottom line - show humility, motivation, a willingness to learn from staff and from mistakes, a hard working attitude, be prepared. Most importantly, be yourself. We look very closely for honesty and integrity.

Hope this helps and good luck.

Thanks
 

Thanks luvmuhud, PLE and Hugh. You have been very helpful.

I think I will approach Flight screening and OSB the same as the other areas of the process, give it my best shot, make sure I put everything into it and trust if I am good enough I will get through but if not at least I gave it all I had.

As I understand the chances of making it to Fast Jets are about 10% for Pilots graduating from 2FTS I have set my sights on Multi fixed wing aircraft such as P3's or perhaps some of the new aircraft like the Wedgetail AEWAC's or C-17's. However if I am lucky enough to be offered FJ's then I would jump at the chance. I love flying and would be happy to be flying anything for the RAAF.

One more thing. As I am 26 if it doesn't happen for me this year will my chances be very slim once I am 27. I have heard of the Army and Navy accepting people over 30 but I don't know about the RAAF?

Cheers

Also, if you don't get your first choice (RAAF), the training you get in the other services is nothing to be scoffed at either - different emphasis for the roles, of course, but back in the days when helicopters were run by the RAAF they were a well sought-after posting out of 2FTS, so don't discount those options.
A decent number of individuals (you know who you are!!) have done the two or even three service shuffle for one reason or another - can keep life interesting to do so, as well.

Joker89,
I'd like to reinforce the 'humble confidence' that Hugh Gorgen mentioned. I know as an instructor, I go the extra mile every time for students who have this incredibly valuable combination of personality traits.
Also, if you have any desire to fly fast jets (JSF, Hornet, F-111), don't think about anything else for the next 5 years. Live eat and breathe it, and picture yourself in the seat. If you aren't focusing on/aiming for fast jets, it's very unlikely that you'll get the opportunity to go there. Every flying job in the military is fantastic, and you will experience things you would never have dreamed of before, but don't kid yourself that you will get a shot at fast jets without aiming for it. Remember, it's either you or the next guy - so it may as well be you!!!

Joker

Here's the thread started by Hornetboy back in January 2002 called "RAAF Aptitude Test Results".
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39266
Lots of great advice for anyone aspiring to join the OZ military as a pilot, not just the RAAF.

Bzulu

Joker,

If you have any questions please feel free to PM me. More than happy to help.

The Army have employed pilots up to the age of 40. The RAAF and RAN also will employ candiates beyond 27 although they will look at what you have done during your years since High School. (dont mention your time selling hemp products in Byron Bay).

INVITATION FOR FLIGHT SCREENING
 

Hey guys,

Just wanted to share my excitement. Just got the call from PSA Tamworth inviting me to attend flight screening in May 2006.

Wow, there is hope for the older (wiser) generation!!!:)

Congratulations, mate, and good luck.