Red Arrows Replacement............
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Indeed, let’s see if they’re still going in the fall. It’s all getting very tiresome; there are COIs everywhere starting in the upper chamber, then there’s the China angle given KD on the Board of Advisors, Southwell is no angel with the SFO, complete hyperbole around the market they can win, and then there’s the duplicitous playoff between London and Paris.
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Aeralis
If you’re going to make such bold statements please, for the love of God, come up with some artwork that illustrates an aircraft designed for this century, not the middle of last century.
BV
BV
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I can't believe that anyone is still taking Aeralis seriously - even a basic knowledge of aerodynamics and fighter design tell you that thing won't work. But hey, it's got a Union Flag on the tail....that's gotta be worth buying.
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Aeralis Jet
The aeroplane is still the problem for me. Last year it went from a high wing design to a low wing design. At RIAT (where the images are from) they are showing a crayon drawing of a jet which could have been done by the YTS member of the team. Nobody can possibly believe that drawing represents the final draft of a 21st century training jet design.
They are basically still saying “you give us the cash and we’ll get serious about a design, until then just trust us that it’ll be a jet and we’ll paint ten of them red for you”.
Until I see a credible image of a jet that looks like it’ll rival the current market competitors (I know cockpit and avionics will be just as important but performance still matters) I just can’t get excited.
Allegedly they are 12 months from a flying prototype but they haven’t actually decided what it’ll look like. Unless that really is the final design, in which case I actually hope they don’t get any investment.
I will end with my usual caveat. I hope I’m wrong and I truly hope Aeralis develops and builds a market leading modern training jet that sells globally in huge numbers.
BV
They are basically still saying “you give us the cash and we’ll get serious about a design, until then just trust us that it’ll be a jet and we’ll paint ten of them red for you”.
Until I see a credible image of a jet that looks like it’ll rival the current market competitors (I know cockpit and avionics will be just as important but performance still matters) I just can’t get excited.
Allegedly they are 12 months from a flying prototype but they haven’t actually decided what it’ll look like. Unless that really is the final design, in which case I actually hope they don’t get any investment.
I will end with my usual caveat. I hope I’m wrong and I truly hope Aeralis develops and builds a market leading modern training jet that sells globally in huge numbers.
BV
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It's not just ugly, it's a Frankenstein level hodge podge of curves and lines.
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