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Remove before flight tags
Apologies if I'm showing my ignorance here, but on last night's episode of Top Gun, in the first couple of minutes, there was footage of a Typhoon taxiing with what looked like Remove Before Flight tags still in place. Is this normal when taxiing?
I agree that my ring would be fluttering if I got a threat warning in a possibly hostile environment. I would probably be wishing that I had not rolled up my sleeves and left my flying gloves at home.
Seriously though, flying in a fast-jet bang-seat with bare arms and hands, is foolish in the extreme and should be left to some of our less well-informed foreign cousins, who seem to think that it is a sign of virility. GRRR!
Mog
Seriously though, flying in a fast-jet bang-seat with bare arms and hands, is foolish in the extreme and should be left to some of our less well-informed foreign cousins, who seem to think that it is a sign of virility. GRRR!
Mog
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" Is this normal when taxiing?" No, but operational circumstances can permit it to facilitate the ac taxying to a designated arming area. Is/was called Combat Arming. Not used at home bases etc where this is usually done as Final Arming for pilot acceptance/walkround. Some nations (eg USAF) always do this because they've the resources available: armourers, transport, accommodation etc for the purpose - we don't! have such luxuries.
I was surprised when the young technician was filmed ringing his wife from an operational environment and telling her about the problem aircraft and that they were swopping it out for another. Need to know not needed now?
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These fly on the wall documentaries are good for the service in theory. It could be a nice insight for the public to show what we do.
But I'm finding this series too fake and it comes across as very scripted. People don't naturally talk like that.
In some scenes it appears the film crew got the Sqn yes man. Every time he talks, I find him nauseating.
But I'm finding this series too fake and it comes across as very scripted. People don't naturally talk like that.
In some scenes it appears the film crew got the Sqn yes man. Every time he talks, I find him nauseating.
I thought the same thing. I know that Typhoon is supposed to be pretty reliable, that jet excepted. But when you have just over 100 Typhoon, I guess you can not afford to send more than a couple. Another Lossimouth squadron were on another detachment.
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I remember an aircraft crash near me where one of the two AH's failed just after take off in cloud and the two crew sadly followed the toppling AH to the crash site believing the servicable one was at fault..
It is not a Squadron detachment, it is one element of a NATO air policing mission. Nor were there only two Typhoons - the deployment has always been at least four aircraft since the mission began. Who do you think was providing QRA whilst the other two were in a formation having their picture taken? People are reading way too much into what they see and hear in this TV programme.
Beags,shades of the VC-10/Tristar Loadie,and the` Remove before Flight` pins.....
Standards.
The man charged with overall service discipline on station, on finding two airmen walking along, hands in pockets, asked them to comply, and even said please.
What has this woke, polite, touchy feely service achieved, that is better than what came before?
What has this woke, polite, touchy feely service achieved, that is better than what came before?
The people shown are part of modern society, and that irresistibly changes constantly. If politeness achieves the same as yelling I see no problem with politeness. You might as well bemoan the passing of puttees, bedpacks, collar studs and hairy mary's. Good riddance to all I say.
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Where is the harm in asking nicely first time?
I'm pretty sure that The Gentleman in question has more than enough in his arsenal should they require a second visit.
Sometimes you don't need to be an ars€h0le
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It is not a Squadron detachment, it is one element of a NATO air policing mission. Nor were there only two Typhoons - the deployment has always been at least four aircraft since the mission began. Who do you think was providing QRA whilst the other two were in a formation having their picture taken? People are reading way too much into what they see and hear in this TV programme.
If there were 4 Typhoon jets there then the RAF guys on base were not aware of that.
Really.....Well I watched the programme last night. And it was pretty clear to me and most likely most of those who watched that we were told that there Only were 2 Typhoon jets there. One was declared unserviceable and could not be rectified there so they needed to call for a replacement jet from Lossimouth.
If there were 4 Typhoon jets there then the RAF guys on base were not aware of that.
If there were 4 Typhoon jets there then the RAF guys on base were not aware of that.
This U/S jet took them down to 5 servicable aircraft.
We would like 6 servicable for all of the logical reasons the armchair experts have listed above (well done, you military strategists).
This jet could not be fixed in theatre, however it was still flyable, albeit with limited manoeuvrability, so the decision was made to swap it for a more serviceable aircraft from Lossie.
As mentioned, TV producers like to 'sex up' what is, for most of us in the military, normal jogging. Believe me, QRA itself is basically a crap version of Gogglebox. ie Loads of boys and girls sitting watching TV and chatting rubbish. Channel 4 viewers would probably switch off 2 minutes into this, so don't be too unsurprised to hear the truth being embellished slightly by the narrator.
I hope this allays everyones' fears regarding the defence of NATO's Eastern Flank.
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But he didn't, he found two Aviators, get with the times T-Rex. But seriously, so what? He's still in charge of discipline, they did as they were asked, without walking off mumbling about what a tw@ he is.Caricature GD SWOs, with comedy Windsor Davies and National Service acts, belong in the past where they were effective. As Dalton says "be nice, until it's time to not be nice"
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Don't you yell at me Mr Warwick!
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