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Old 18th Apr 2024, 08:48
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Johnson came to his senses?

"I think providing lethal aid to Ukraine right now is critically important. I think Vladimir Putin will continue march through Europe. I would rather send bullets to Ukraine, than American boys. This is not a game, not a joke!", - Mike Johnson


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Old 18th Apr 2024, 09:42
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Johnson came to his senses?

"I think providing lethal aid to Ukraine right now is critically important. I think Vladimir Putin will continue march through Europe. I would rather send bullets to Ukraine, than American boys. This is not a game, not a joke!", - Mike Johnson

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I smell a rat with Johnson.

I hope I'm wrong & the smell is just coming from my neighbour's cellar
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Old 18th Apr 2024, 09:49
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...half-of-russia

Germany arrests two for alleged plot to attack military bases on behalf of Russia

Two Russian nationals have been arrested in southern Germany suspected of plotting sabotage attacks on US military facilities, German prosecutors announced on Thursday.

The men, named as Dieter S and Alexander J, are suspected of operating as Russian spies on behalf of the Kremlin, according to German media sources.

Prosecutors said only that the men were accused of working for a foreign secret service.

The suspects were arrested on Tuesday and Thursday last week, the prosecutor’s office said in a statement, adding that their homes and workplaces were being searched.

According to the statement by prosecutors, the accused are under “strong suspicion” of “having worked for a foreign secret service in a particularly serious incident.

In addition, Dieter S, reportedly a 39-year-old dual Russian-German citizen, is charged with “conspiring to cause an explosive attack and arson, acting as an agent for sabotage purposes and security-endangering collection of intelligence on military installations”.

Dieter S had been in contact with a member of the Russian secret services and had been developing sabotage plans in Germany since October 2023.

According to prosecutors, he declared his readiness to carry out explosive and arson attacks on military infrastructure and industrial sites, with the explicit intention “to undermine the military support provided by Germany to Ukraine against the Russian war of aggression”.

He focused his attention on German and US military sites, according to the evidence gathered by investigators, which includes videos and photographs.

According to Der Spiegel, the US military site Grafenwöhr in Bavaria, southern Germany, was his main focal point. This is one of the main sites where the US military has been training Ukrainian troops.

The prosecutors said that based on “underlying facts”, there was also a strong suspicion that Dieter S had worked in eastern Ukraine between December 2014 and September 2016 as a fighter for an armed unit of the “Donetsk People’s Republic” and had acquired a firearm for this purpose.

The prosecutors described the unit as a pro-Russian association that, “from spring 2014, claimed control over the Ukrainian administrative district of Donetsk with the aim of secession from Ukraine and engaged in intensive clashes with the Ukrainian armed forces. The association repeatedly used violence against the civilian population.”

Alexander J, aged 37 and also a German-Russian citizen, is suspected of supporting Dieter S from March 2024 at the latest. He is also accused of espionage on behalf of a foreign service.

Dieter S was reportedly brought before judges at Germany’s federal court of justice in Karlsruhe on Wednesday and remanded in custody. Alexander J is due to be brought before judges today.

According to German practice, suspected criminals are identified using only the initial letter of their surnames.
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Old 18th Apr 2024, 09:56
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Vlad will keep marching west.

Only an adamantine spear to the heart will bleed him out as he pushes
on regardless against it.
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Old 18th Apr 2024, 10:02
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Originally Posted by KeyPilot
I smell a rat with Johnson.
I hope I'm wrong & the smell is just coming from my neighbour's cellar
I know what you mean. In general the more someone talks about doing something, the less intention they have to actually do it.
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I smell a rat with Johnson.

I hope I'm wrong & the smell is just coming from my neighbour's cellar
Of course you do,it reeks.

And Marjorie Taylor Greene has proposed the following, the woman in demented

Marjorie Taylor Greene wants to "amend" the aid bills for Ukraine and Israel. In case you are asking, no, this is not parody. I added the links. Here are the "proposals":


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On April 17, 2024, as a result of a successful operation by the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the military airfield in Dzhankoi in Crimea, the following russian targets were destroyed or critically damaged:
● 4x S-400 air defense missile launchers
● 3x radar detection systems
● Air defense command-and-control center
● "Fundament-M" airspace surveillance equipment

Great work done! Glory to Ukraine!
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Meanwhile in Russia.


In Russia, specifically in the Republic of Dagestan, a curious incident unfolded. Local traffic officers attempted to detain the driver of a GMC truck who purportedly disregarded a police officer's signal at a checkpoint and even attempted to run down another officer before being forcibly stopped, which was captured on video.

Additionally, the driver was found to be heavily intoxicated. The driver turned out to be Alikhan Tsakaev, the Minister of Emergency Situations of Chechnya and a Major General of the Internal Service, holding a high-ranking position.

Furthermore, the GMC truck was revealed to have been stolen from Canada. What ensued following the incident?

Despite the gravity of the offense, upon Tsakaev's detention, 11 vehicles from Chechnya, including three traffic police vehicles, arrived at the scene.

Amidst a confrontation, with threats of firearm usage, the group forcibly removed the detainee, evidently overstepping official authority and threatening police officers on duty with murder.
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Long range ATACMS for Ukraine in the bill!!!




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Ukraine has hit a Russian plant producing solid fuel for missiles.

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More attacks in Russia

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1780673166915829917

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Blimey, the Russians are pulling a lot of their military ships out of the Black Sea and sending them to the Caspian Sea for safety. That is seriously impressive for a Country without a Navy!

Can they still launch from there, or is it out of range?

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How are the doing that? Canals or taking them apart and rebuilding them?
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Old 18th Apr 2024, 12:57
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How are the doing that? Canals or taking them apart and rebuilding them?
There's a ship canal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga%E2%80%93Don_Canal
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Every day is a school day!
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How are the doing that? Canals or taking them apart and rebuilding them?
Probably Volga-Don Canal, and the lower stretches of the namesake rivers. Google the maximum draught/beam etc to determine which of their (surviving) fleet can navigate the waterway.
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. Berlin is in striking distance of a tactical nuke on a ballistic Iskander or Kinzhal fired from Kaliningrad. With little means to defend against. And nothing to retaliate. What would stop good ol' Vlad from nuking Berlin? The following sanctions? His humanity? His good manors? What else?
Little means? THAAD/Patriot TBMD. Germany was in on the few projects I was working on back in the 90's involving TBMD / NATO AACS and such. (And I am sure they were party to its successors).
Not sure what German posture is currently, so I am out of date.
While I can see you concerns as regards how the world looks from Schotz's point of view, Ballistic Missile Defense exists.
As to the hypersonic missiles, etc, yeah, that's a new threat class. Shoot the archer...
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Long range ATACMS for Ukraine in the bill!!!
Good news, and About Damned Time!
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Of course you do,it reeks.

And Marjorie Taylor Greene has proposed the following, the woman in demented




Thank you Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) for introducing this bill:
"Whereas... Greene has repeatedly attempted to block aid to Ukraine, empowering Vladimir Putin's unlawful violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity," the amendment reads. "Whereas... Greene has reposed information from the Strategic Culture Foundation, a Russian based disinformation and propaganda channel... It is the sense of Congress that Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA-14) should be appointed Vladimir Putin's Special Envoy to the United States Congress."
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How are the doing that? Canals or taking them apart and rebuilding them?

The picture of the route.

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Send them, send them all.

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