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Old 19th March 2024 | 08:53
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Russia the great free democracy, well except the people dare not say anything..

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Old 19th March 2024 | 10:04
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Apart from the biddy who was frothing at the mouth for war, most people in that video have no desire for the war.
They have no real understanding why its happening and they know they can't stop it because they have no democracy.
Those people are scared and have to bury their heads and look the other way, incase they are press ganged into the SMO.
The interviews look like they are taking place in Moscow or St Petersburg, the war hasn't directly affected them - YET.
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Old 19th March 2024 | 13:01
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🇩🇪 MoD Pistorius has just announced a new ~€500 million military aid package for #Ukraine. The package includes 10,000 155mm shells from Bundeswehr stocks, 180,000 155mm shells via the Czech initiative and 100,000 155mm shells newly ordered in Germany.

https://deaidua.org/news/2024/03/19/...e-for-ukraine/
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Putin's minions develop his idea of creating "sanitary zones." According to them, these should be zones adjacent to the Ukrainian territories already annexed by Russia - controlled, "safe" zones large enough that Western long-range weapons cannot reach Russia/annexed territories and where there are no Ukrainian military.

What follows from this is that Russia will annex these "sanitary zones", and then, to "make Russia safe", Putin will "need" to conquer more new territories. Where will he stop?

Should Putin be able to conquer the south of Ukraine, he will look at Moldova. Then Romania, and on and on and on. Where will Putin stop with these "sanitary zones"? In Lisbon?
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Old 19th March 2024 | 14:24
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"Ukrainian FPV drones disrupt the attempt of two Russian BREMs to capture the damaged Swedish Stridsvagn 122 tank on the Kreminny route"

The Russians tried to recover a knocked-out Ukrainian Leopard 2A5 (Swedish variant Stridsvagn-122), from the battlefield in the Kreminnaya region, but instead lost their two recovery tanks.


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Putin's minions develop his idea of creating "sanitary zones." According to them, these should be zones adjacent to the Ukrainian territories already annexed by Russia - controlled, "safe" zones large enough that Western long-range weapons cannot reach Russia/annexed territories and where there are no Ukrainian military.

What follows from this is that Russia will annex these "sanitary zones", and then, to "make Russia safe", Putin will "need" to conquer more new territories. Where will he stop?

Should Putin be able to conquer the south of Ukraine, he will look at Moldova. Then Romania, and on and on and on. Where will Putin stop with these "sanitary zones"? In Lisbon?
Alaska - the long way round.
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​​​​​​​🇷🇺Russian Su-24M, who tried to launch missiles towards Odesa, locationally was lost around 12:00 a.m (local time)., near Zmiiny Island.

It is difficult to hide from the radar over the sea therefore, it is very likely that this was his last flight.
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Chaos and death in the Russian city of Belgorod as Russian S-300 missiles that they intended to hit Ukraine land in their own city.
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Old 19th March 2024 | 17:49
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Now that is one scary looking mot... mobik. And there I was, being told that the bio weapon laboratories were in Ukraine, not in Russia


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​​​​​​​There is a discussion on French television about where exactly [ in Ukraine ] French troops can be stationed.

They want to prevent a crossing of the Dnieper and protect the border from Belarus.
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Old 19th March 2024 | 18:18
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Another refinery was hit last night near Moscow, the Kremlin is suppressing information but damage is visible on satellite photos.

The whole place is on fire.

Question for the experts: Any idea what did this?

"The whole place is on fire".
Even Ruzzian propaganda isn't as deluded and insanely over-stated as that!
Theres some white vapour - which in my experience does not denote a petrochemical fire at all, and in any case even if it did is emanating fron maybe 2% of the area - not the 'whole place'.
I know we're all rooting fpr UKR but that sort of blinkered extremist fantasy is not helpful.
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Old 19th March 2024 | 21:50
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Wokkafans, an update to your excellent post showing the drones attacking the tank recovery,


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More ingenuity from Ukraine, war drives invention. I could see this being a viable alternative for the likes of mountain rescue bringing people to safety.

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I side with PP and meleagertoo on viewing the refinery image - that is not a petroleum fire, but more likely the result of someone hitting the ESD button on arrival of incoming.

I also note the lines of LPG spheres next to the tank farm bottom right, and that the shadows of the white plumes suggest very low wind conditions ... and wonder if, for whatever reasons, the wrong targets had been hit.

Such conditions prevailed when the Nypro installations near Flixborough, UK were wiped out following an escape of an estimated 60 tonnes of cyclohexane, which produced a fuel-air explosive detonation rivalling that of a tactical nuke.

Although LPG per se might not be consided of primary importance, folks might like to explore the meanings of the acronym BLEVE .... not that I should be giving anyone ideas about force mutiplication effects, now should I?

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The EU’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, has said he will propose the EU use 90% of revenue from Russian assets frozen in Europe to buy arms for Ukraine via the European Peace Facility fund.

Borrell said he would propose the remaining 10% be transferred to the EU budget, to be used to boost the capacity of the Ukrainian defence industry.

The proposals will be submitted to EU member states on Wednesday, ahead of a summit of EU leaders on Thursday and Friday.
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That's the only way I can see them doing it, using the generated revenue.... It is ok saying we are going to use the £300 billion, but that will not be cash, a large portion will be invested in companies in the West, so in effect it is not a transferrable asset as such, but the revenue and profits are, as long as they do not destabilise the companies.
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Old 20th March 2024 | 12:23
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Looks like another attack last night on Engles.

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The power of drones in destroying troop attacks.

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A downed drone, one of the type attacking the refineries.

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This one sounds promising...
Originally Posted by ORAC
The EU’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, has said he will propose the EU use 90% of revenue from Russian assets frozen in Europe to buy arms for Ukraine via the European Peace Facility fund.
...as it's already provoked a response
Borrell's assets proposal is banditism and theft, says Russian foreign ministry spokesperson
Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said on Wednesday that EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell’s proposals to use revenues from frozen Russian assets to fund Ukraine amount to banditism and theft, reports Reuters.
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