Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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I agree that time has passed,and believe I am well aware that time and planet orientation / time differences can play apart.
Personally I am very interested in everyone’s posts and Nutty has done a Stirling job keeping updates and unbiased. Ukraine is not without faults re corruption and that needs to be resolved which appears to being addressed.
Nutty I look forward to further updates.
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Personally I am very interested in everyone’s posts and Nutty has done a Stirling job keeping updates and unbiased. Ukraine is not without faults re corruption and that needs to be resolved which appears to being addressed.
Nutty I look forward to further updates.
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Mr Mac
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Zelenskyy visits front lime… Video
For people to understand how significant a risk the President took here, this route into Avdiivka stands as the most dangerous entry point along the frontline at present. This area is well within the range of FPV drones, artillery, and mortars, as the Russians maintain fire superiority on the route into the city.
Again, this is an example of a leader; it's rare to witness the upper echelons of the government placing themselves in such situations. Normally, they make visits well behind the frontline.
Since this invasion began, Putin has not once visited the frontline. This fact tells me all I need to know about leaders…
For people to understand how significant a risk the President took here, this route into Avdiivka stands as the most dangerous entry point along the frontline at present. This area is well within the range of FPV drones, artillery, and mortars, as the Russians maintain fire superiority on the route into the city.
Again, this is an example of a leader; it's rare to witness the upper echelons of the government placing themselves in such situations. Normally, they make visits well behind the frontline.
Since this invasion began, Putin has not once visited the frontline. This fact tells me all I need to know about leaders…
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1740...HhlFHGKbTPQr_A
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NutLoose, stay with it please.
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Elenskyy visits front lime… Video
For people to understand how significant a risk the President took here, this route into Avdiivka stands as the most dangerous entry point along the frontline at present. This area is well within the range of FPV drones, artillery, and mortars, as the Russians maintain fire superiority on the route into the city.
Again, this is an example of a leader; it's rare to witness the upper echelons of the government placing themselves in such situations. Normally, they make visits well behind the frontline.
Since this invasion began, Putin has not once visited the frontline. This fact tells me all I need to know about leaders…
For people to understand how significant a risk the President took here, this route into Avdiivka stands as the most dangerous entry point along the frontline at present. This area is well within the range of FPV drones, artillery, and mortars, as the Russians maintain fire superiority on the route into the city.
Again, this is an example of a leader; it's rare to witness the upper echelons of the government placing themselves in such situations. Normally, they make visits well behind the frontline.
Since this invasion began, Putin has not once visited the frontline. This fact tells me all I need to know about leaders…
Nutty/ORAC-thank you for your efforts (and apologies to those names i’ve missed). Please do keep it up and don’t be put off by absolute bell schwackers like lonewolf (who I should hope is not allowed to turn a spanner. Nor be put in charge of an aircraft or crew).
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I have blocked him, so hopefully that’s the last I see of his verbiage.
i cannot fathom why if Ukraine has the drone capability they do not respond in like and hit the places shown in the link below, it would bring it home to the Russian Moscow populace.
i cannot fathom why if Ukraine has the drone capability they do not respond in like and hit the places shown in the link below, it would bring it home to the Russian Moscow populace.
Today's Russian missile attack on Ukraine was one of the most massive in 2023. On December 29, 2023, the Russians launched a massive attack using 120 missiles. On the same day in 2022, the Russians fired about 100 missiles at Ukraine from strategic aircraft and ships. As of now, 27 people have been killed and 156 wounded as a result of a massive Russian attack. Also, in Lviv, the death of Ukrainian basketball player, coach, international master of sports of Ukraine Viktor Kobzystyi has been reported. In Kyiv, 6 people were killed and 30 injured (8 of them were rescued from the rubble). In Lviv, at least 1 person was killed and 30 injured, including two children. In Odesa, 4 people were killed and 22 injured, including two children (6 and 8 years old) and a pregnant woman. A 26-year-old girl is also in a critical condition. In Kharkiv, 3 people were killed and 13 injured. In Zaporizhzhia, 7 people were killed and 18 injured. In Dnipro, 6 people were killed and 30 injured, including a 1.5-year-old child. In Konotop, Sumy region, 4 people were injured. In Smila, Cherkasy region, 9 people were injured. In addition to human casualties, 98 private houses, 39 cars, a hospital and a sanatorium, 9 apartment buildings, two administrative buildings, household facilities, a service station, a garage cooperative, a gas station, a warehouse, a school, a church, a shopping mall, and a maternity hospital were damaged. : Smila, Cherkasy region. Russian attack damaged 51 private households. 9 people injured.
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Meanwhile in Russia
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VERY GRAPHIC, LINK ONLY, THE REALITIES OF WAR.
A cat eats the remains of a Russian soldier.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED, I felt it should be mentioned as we all get blasé to seeing the images of war and sometimes we need a reality check as to what it actually means to those involved.
A cat eats the remains of a Russian soldier.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED, I felt it should be mentioned as we all get blasé to seeing the images of war and sometimes we need a reality check as to what it actually means to those involved.
Thanks for the warning. Appreciated.
(I tend not to click on these, though. Personal choice.)
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I don’t remember if we touched on this before, the Russian KH-101 cruise missile has a built in flare dispenser.
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OK Nutty, that's pretty dark humor, but I did giggle...
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LW's posts are usually well reasoned and well informed, and I enjoy reading them. Every now & again though, he can get really cranky. I don't know if it's when he's been at the turps, or what.
Glad to see you're back Nutty.
Glad to see you're back Nutty.
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Interesting Twitter post.
Todays attack of Russia on #Ukraine was the biggest military failure of Russia in a long time. The strategic balance has shifted after tonight, allow me to explain how Russia lost tonights "Billion Dollar Brawl" in a catastrophic manner.
This attack involved a very substantial amount of weapons, fired in a time and space coordinated fashion on select targets. The idea behind such an attack against air defense is to overwhelm the defending side with force, in a so called "saturation attack".
Any missle system only has a limited amount of ready to fire missles, before it needs to reload. The well known Patriot System has 4 Missles per Launcher Truck with PAC-2 Missles, and 16 with the smaller PAC-3 Missles. The IRIS-T System is similar, with 8 Ready to Fire Missles per Truck. See below picture, once they are fired, you need to take a truck, reload the launcher with new "boxes", that are both the storage and launch container.
So why did the strategic balance shift today? Russia has saved up cruise missles and other missle assets for quite some time, to plan and execute this attack on critical civillian infrastructures of Ukraine. They have used their intelligence assets to try to understand how the Air Defence of Ukraine is structured.
They have employed so called SEAD/DEAD Missions using Anti-Radiation Missles and Electronic Warfare, both aimed at rendering Air Defence ineffective and destroying it. This was not "nothing", this was likely the best gameplan they could execute, with the assets available.
Despite these efforts, they were only able to hit with less than 5% of the ordnance employed. Thats a failure of russian strategic aviation, and signals that Russia, despite gains on the ground, will no longer be able to massively attack ukrainian critial infrastructures. This would have been unthinkable a year ago, this is a huge triumph for #ukraine but also the countries supporting it.
This attack involved a very substantial amount of weapons, fired in a time and space coordinated fashion on select targets. The idea behind such an attack against air defense is to overwhelm the defending side with force, in a so called "saturation attack".
Any missle system only has a limited amount of ready to fire missles, before it needs to reload. The well known Patriot System has 4 Missles per Launcher Truck with PAC-2 Missles, and 16 with the smaller PAC-3 Missles. The IRIS-T System is similar, with 8 Ready to Fire Missles per Truck. See below picture, once they are fired, you need to take a truck, reload the launcher with new "boxes", that are both the storage and launch container.
So why did the strategic balance shift today? Russia has saved up cruise missles and other missle assets for quite some time, to plan and execute this attack on critical civillian infrastructures of Ukraine. They have used their intelligence assets to try to understand how the Air Defence of Ukraine is structured.
They have employed so called SEAD/DEAD Missions using Anti-Radiation Missles and Electronic Warfare, both aimed at rendering Air Defence ineffective and destroying it. This was not "nothing", this was likely the best gameplan they could execute, with the assets available.
Despite these efforts, they were only able to hit with less than 5% of the ordnance employed. Thats a failure of russian strategic aviation, and signals that Russia, despite gains on the ground, will no longer be able to massively attack ukrainian critial infrastructures. This would have been unthinkable a year ago, this is a huge triumph for #ukraine but also the countries supporting it.
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And because I am lazy, here is a good gpt explanation on aforementioned terms: Saturation Attack Explained Objective: The primary objective of a saturation attack is to flood the enemy's air defense systems with more targets than they can effectively track and engage, thereby reducing their overall effectiveness or neutralizing them altogether.
Methodology: This is achieved by simultaneously launching a large number of offensive assets. These can include a mix of manned aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), cruise missiles, and other precision-guided munitions. Overloading Defense Systems: The key is to overload the radar and sensor capabilities of the air defense network. Modern air defense systems are designed to track and engage multiple targets simultaneously, but they have limitations. By presenting more targets than the system can handle, some offensive weapons are likely to penetrate the defenses.
Electronic Warfare: A saturation attack is often complemented by electronic warfare measures. These include jamming enemy radar and communication systems to further degrade their ability to respond effectively.
SEAD/DEAD Operations SEAD and DEAD are specialized military operations aimed at neutralizing enemy air defense systems. Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD): This involves temporarily neutralizing enemy air defense capabilities to ensure the safety of friendly aircraft during a specific mission. It's not about destroying the systems but suppressing their operations.
Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses (DEAD): DEAD operations aim for the permanent destruction of enemy air defense assets. This involves targeting radars, anti-aircraft artillery, surface-to-air missile (SAM) sites, and command and control (C2) nodes. Tactics and Techniques: Both SEAD and DEAD operations use a combination of electronic warfare, decoys, and direct attacks on air defense assets. Stealth technology and advanced tactics are employed to evade or suppress enemy radar and SAM systems. Role of ARM (Anti-Radiation Missiles) ARM missiles are a critical component in SEAD/DEAD operations.
Function: These missiles are designed to home in on the electronic emissions from enemy radar systems. They are particularly effective against ground-based air defense radars.
Tactics: In a typical SEAD/DEAD operation, ARM missiles are among the first wave of weapons deployed. They target radar systems, aiming to blind the enemy’s air defense network and pave the way for subsequent strikes. Advantages: The use of ARMs reduces the risk to manned aircraft, as they can be launched from outside the effective range of most SAM systems. They also force enemy radar operators to choose between staying active (and thus vulnerable to ARMs) or shutting down their radars (and losing situational awareness). Integration with Other
Assets: ARMs are often used in conjunction with electronic warfare aircraft, UAVs, and cyber warfare techniques to maximize their effectiveness and ensure the overall success of SEAD/DEAD operations.
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And because I am lazy, here is a good gpt explanation on aforementioned terms: Saturation Attack Explained Objective: The primary objective of a saturation attack is to flood the enemy's air defense systems with more targets than they can effectively track and engage, thereby reducing their overall effectiveness or neutralizing them altogether.
Methodology: This is achieved by simultaneously launching a large number of offensive assets. These can include a mix of manned aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), cruise missiles, and other precision-guided munitions. Overloading Defense Systems: The key is to overload the radar and sensor capabilities of the air defense network. Modern air defense systems are designed to track and engage multiple targets simultaneously, but they have limitations. By presenting more targets than the system can handle, some offensive weapons are likely to penetrate the defenses.
Electronic Warfare: A saturation attack is often complemented by electronic warfare measures. These include jamming enemy radar and communication systems to further degrade their ability to respond effectively.
SEAD/DEAD Operations SEAD and DEAD are specialized military operations aimed at neutralizing enemy air defense systems. Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD): This involves temporarily neutralizing enemy air defense capabilities to ensure the safety of friendly aircraft during a specific mission. It's not about destroying the systems but suppressing their operations.
Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses (DEAD): DEAD operations aim for the permanent destruction of enemy air defense assets. This involves targeting radars, anti-aircraft artillery, surface-to-air missile (SAM) sites, and command and control (C2) nodes. Tactics and Techniques: Both SEAD and DEAD operations use a combination of electronic warfare, decoys, and direct attacks on air defense assets. Stealth technology and advanced tactics are employed to evade or suppress enemy radar and SAM systems. Role of ARM (Anti-Radiation Missiles) ARM missiles are a critical component in SEAD/DEAD operations.
Function: These missiles are designed to home in on the electronic emissions from enemy radar systems. They are particularly effective against ground-based air defense radars.
Tactics: In a typical SEAD/DEAD operation, ARM missiles are among the first wave of weapons deployed. They target radar systems, aiming to blind the enemy’s air defense network and pave the way for subsequent strikes. Advantages: The use of ARMs reduces the risk to manned aircraft, as they can be launched from outside the effective range of most SAM systems. They also force enemy radar operators to choose between staying active (and thus vulnerable to ARMs) or shutting down their radars (and losing situational awareness). Integration with Other
Assets: ARMs are often used in conjunction with electronic warfare aircraft, UAVs, and cyber warfare techniques to maximize their effectiveness and ensure the overall success of SEAD/DEAD operations.
I don’t remember if we touched on this before, the Russian KH-101 cruise missile has a built in flare dispenser.
https://twitter.com/chrisschmitz/sta...76466780262400
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More about the latest Russian missile to fall in Poland.
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Ukraine hits targets in Russia with UAV’s in response .
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Inflation is taking a bite out of the Russian food economy and people are starting to feel the effects.
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Egg Wars not over in russia Rosstat recorded a new jump in egg prices contrary to Putin's promises
At December 25, chicken eggs in the country rose in price by another 3.95%, Rosstat reported on Wednesday. Since the beginning of December, the increase in egg prices has reached 16.4%, and since the beginning of the year - 59%.
As a result, eggs continue to lead the top of the most expensive food products. Only tomatoes showed comparable growth of 52%. Bananas come third with 46.5%. Cabbage (by 29%), chicken meat (by 27.7%), apples (by 20.7%), lamb (by 17.6%), cucumbers (by 14.9%), carrots (by 13.3%), pork (by 12.9%), beets (by 12.5%) and sugar (by 11.5%) also rose at a double-digit rate.
As of December 25, Rosstat estimated the overall food inflation at 8.16%, and the increase in prices for vegetables and fruits at 28.19%.+
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Egg Wars not over in russia Rosstat recorded a new jump in egg prices contrary to Putin's promises
At December 25, chicken eggs in the country rose in price by another 3.95%, Rosstat reported on Wednesday. Since the beginning of December, the increase in egg prices has reached 16.4%, and since the beginning of the year - 59%.
As a result, eggs continue to lead the top of the most expensive food products. Only tomatoes showed comparable growth of 52%. Bananas come third with 46.5%. Cabbage (by 29%), chicken meat (by 27.7%), apples (by 20.7%), lamb (by 17.6%), cucumbers (by 14.9%), carrots (by 13.3%), pork (by 12.9%), beets (by 12.5%) and sugar (by 11.5%) also rose at a double-digit rate.
As of December 25, Rosstat estimated the overall food inflation at 8.16%, and the increase in prices for vegetables and fruits at 28.19%.+
Still recovering from shopping trip to Tesco this morning, and I have to say that UK food inflation/shrinkflation puts us not so far behind them 
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