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Old 11th December 2023 | 05:05
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Old 11th December 2023 | 07:54
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Very impressive, but is it cost-effective?
Let's do the Maths. If this drone costs 10k€ and you want to kill 400k Troops this would cost 4bln$. I would consider that super cost- effective.
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Old 11th December 2023 | 09:15
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Britain to supply two more minehunters to Ukraine who are purchasing them, that will make four they will have, as they received two previously.

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/ukra...702261597.html
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More on the UK Norwegian collaboration to aid the Ukraine establish a new Navy. The Uk is also training Ukrainian Navy officers.

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Old 11th December 2023 | 12:35
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Pali, you might like this, I would love to here what was said.


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Old 11th December 2023 | 21:48
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The sound of modern warfare that will cause panic attacks in the next generation of PTSD sufferers….

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Old 11th December 2023 | 23:02
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Originally Posted by henra
Let's do the Maths. If this drone costs 10k€ and you want to kill 400k Troops this would cost 4bln$. I would consider that super cost- effective.
Further, during the Korean war it took approximately 50,000 rounds of small arms fire to kill one enemy. Drones might be more cost effective both from financial and troop perspectives. The accuracy of modern guided artillery is certainly a game changer. This war is certainly changing the way armies will fight in the future.
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Old 12th December 2023 | 00:20
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Russia is running the Nazi playbook.

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Old 12th December 2023 | 00:23
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Nutty, I'll suggest that you have that one in the wrong thread.

Back to aviation:
Bad weather is common in this month and the coming months. What's that going to do to
Air warfare, drones? I have read a few bits here and there on the coming winter campaign, but nothing that really moved the needle.
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Old 12th December 2023 | 01:36
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x n Y

100 years ago we had the trench war on the x plane, now we are doing the same from the y n z, drones are probably cheaper than bullets.
but **** i hate seeing sleeping humans pushed it the front blown away like meat sacks. by drone. then again there no difference between that and an old trench shell.
a allied hand handled it seconds before it blowing up the other sides guy on return to earth.#

on a lighter note, kinda
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General Breedlove, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR):

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Old 12th December 2023 | 06:18
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Identified battlefield losses 12th December. Not sure what happened, or where, but the Russians suffered a large defeat.

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Meanwhile in Russia, gritting is under way. You have to keep those supply line to Ukraine open.

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Sky News:

New Polish PM to demand 'full mobilisation' of West behind Ukraine

New Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has left Ukraine in no doubt as to his feelings on the war - saying he will "demand full mobilisation" of the West.

Relations between the two neighbours have appeared to sour slightly in recent months during a tense election campaign.

There was a ban on Ukrainian grain imports in September, in a bid by the Law and Justice party to get farmers on side. Now-defeated PM Mateusz Morawiecki then went further, announcing Poland would end the supply of arms to Ukraine and focus on domestic rearmaments. The remarks were later caveated but would have been viewed with concern in Kyiv amid talk of the potential for war fatigue in the West.

Now, Mr Tusk has moved to reaffirm his country's backing for the war effort, tweeting: "We will demand the full mobilisation of the West to help Ukraine.

"I can't listen any more to politicians who talk about being tired of the situation in #Ukraine... attack on Ukraine is an attack on us all."
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And he appears proud of such modern aids.... I just hope he does not see what Ukraine supply to their troops.

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Old 12th December 2023 | 17:06
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Somethings lighting up the night in Rostov Russia.

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Old 12th December 2023 | 17:15
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Rybar, those dumb Russians believe Ukraine and Moldova intend to take Transnistria as the U.K. has said now is the time. It would free up troops though

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Old 12th December 2023 | 23:15
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BREAKING: Finland has decided to double its heavy ammunition (artillery/shell) production capacity for Ukraine until the 2030s — an example of continuous support for Ukraine for allies to follow.

These are new investments, building new production lines to be completed by 2026-7. They will provide ammuniton to Ukraine until at least the 2030s.

Before this, Finland has already multiplied production numbers within their existing capacity.
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