Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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Russian Telegram sites are claiming that some F-16s have already been handed over and are operating from NATO airbases, in which case they claim the NATO airbases are legitimate targets for attack.
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Previously when the Netherlands had announced planned donations to Ukraine they tended to have already delivered some of them.
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One of Russia’s nuclear powered merchant ships is on fire, I do hope they can bring it under control before anything drastic happens.
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Putin’s top general in charge of Russia’s nuclear weapons has been arrested. Lieutenant General Oleg Frolov, 61, the deputy director of the Russian space agency Roscosmos, was arrested along with other alleged co-conspirators.
Frolov's arrest follows the death by "asphyxia"of Evgeny Postrigan, a space exec who worked on secret project for Kremlin.
Detained, in the same case was Yevgeny Fomichev, the director of research at Geophysics-Cosmos, a company that develops weapons guidance systems for missiles.
https://t.co/mzNyCBjJlu
Frolov's arrest follows the death by "asphyxia"of Evgeny Postrigan, a space exec who worked on secret project for Kremlin.
Detained, in the same case was Yevgeny Fomichev, the director of research at Geophysics-Cosmos, a company that develops weapons guidance systems for missiles.
https://t.co/mzNyCBjJlu

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Russian Black Sea Fleet Brigade Apparently Using Chemical Weapons (msn.com)A Russian Black Sea fleet marine brigade deployed in southern Ukraine is using chemical weapons dropped by drones against Ukrainian fighters, Moscow's military appears to have confirmed.
Russia's 810th Naval Infantry Brigade has used a "radical change" in tactics around the contested village of Krynky, on the east bank of the Dnieper River in the southern Kherson region, since mid-December, Moscow's military said.
Kyiv's forces have been whittling away at Russian defenses on the east bank of the Dnieper, establishing pockets of control with ground operations in villages such as Krynky since mid-October.
"The tactic of dropping K-51 grenades from drones onto enemy positions was successfully tested and applied in order to smoke them out from fortified positions," the brigade said in a post to Telegram on Friday.
The 810th also published footage appearing to show a K-51 bomb in use in Ukraine, the U.S.-based think tank, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), noted on Saturday.
If confirmed, this would be a violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention, a treaty that has been in place for more than a quarter of a century aimed at destroying chemical weapon stockpiles and chemical weapon production facilities, as well as banning their use. Russia is a party to the convention.
Newsweek has reached out to the Russian Defense Ministry for comment via email.
K-51 aerosol grenades contain CS-gas, a type of tear gas commonly used to control rioting crowds, the ISW said in its latest analysis. The think tank has previously claimed that Russia used K-51 grenades against Ukrainian forces in the eastern Donetsk region in November 2022.
Both Russia and Ukraine have accused one another of using chemical weapons throughout the 22-month-old war.
Kyiv's navy said in December 2022 that Russian soldiers had dropped K-51 bombs containing chloropicrin from drones in eastern Ukraine. Russian soldiers in southern Ukraine have been using a form of CS gas against Kyiv's troops, a Ukrainian official told CNN in a report published on Tuesday.
Chloropicrin vapors are irritating to the skin, eyes, and upper respiratory tract and have been used in chemical warfare in the past.
Ukraine's military also said back in May that Russia dropped chemical weapons from drones around the Donetsk town of Avdiivka, prior to some of the most bitter fighting of the war around the town from early October.
An adviser to the self-styled Donetsk People's Republic said earlier this year that Ukraine used chemical weapons around the ruined eastern village of Soledar and the destroyed city of Bakhmut, without providing evidence. Ukraine denied the claim.
"The enemy's accusations of the use of chemical weapons by units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are untrue," military officials told Reuters in February.
Nikolai Patrushev, the secretary of Russia's Security Council and a long-time ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said in early November that "the risk that nuclear, chemical and biological weapons will be used is increasing."
Ukraine made sweeping gains in Kherson in its first counteroffensive in late 2022, pushing Russian forces back to the east bank of the Dnieper River, which has roughly marked the front lines in the region throughout 2023.
Soldiers from the Russian 810th Naval Infantry Brigade arrived in Krynky in early October, and likely took over from Russia's 18th Combined Arms Army in the area, the ISW has previously said.
Russia's 810th Naval Infantry Brigade has used a "radical change" in tactics around the contested village of Krynky, on the east bank of the Dnieper River in the southern Kherson region, since mid-December, Moscow's military said.
Kyiv's forces have been whittling away at Russian defenses on the east bank of the Dnieper, establishing pockets of control with ground operations in villages such as Krynky since mid-October.
"The tactic of dropping K-51 grenades from drones onto enemy positions was successfully tested and applied in order to smoke them out from fortified positions," the brigade said in a post to Telegram on Friday.
The 810th also published footage appearing to show a K-51 bomb in use in Ukraine, the U.S.-based think tank, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), noted on Saturday.
If confirmed, this would be a violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention, a treaty that has been in place for more than a quarter of a century aimed at destroying chemical weapon stockpiles and chemical weapon production facilities, as well as banning their use. Russia is a party to the convention.
Newsweek has reached out to the Russian Defense Ministry for comment via email.
K-51 aerosol grenades contain CS-gas, a type of tear gas commonly used to control rioting crowds, the ISW said in its latest analysis. The think tank has previously claimed that Russia used K-51 grenades against Ukrainian forces in the eastern Donetsk region in November 2022.
Both Russia and Ukraine have accused one another of using chemical weapons throughout the 22-month-old war.
Kyiv's navy said in December 2022 that Russian soldiers had dropped K-51 bombs containing chloropicrin from drones in eastern Ukraine. Russian soldiers in southern Ukraine have been using a form of CS gas against Kyiv's troops, a Ukrainian official told CNN in a report published on Tuesday.
Chloropicrin vapors are irritating to the skin, eyes, and upper respiratory tract and have been used in chemical warfare in the past.
Ukraine's military also said back in May that Russia dropped chemical weapons from drones around the Donetsk town of Avdiivka, prior to some of the most bitter fighting of the war around the town from early October.
An adviser to the self-styled Donetsk People's Republic said earlier this year that Ukraine used chemical weapons around the ruined eastern village of Soledar and the destroyed city of Bakhmut, without providing evidence. Ukraine denied the claim.
"The enemy's accusations of the use of chemical weapons by units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are untrue," military officials told Reuters in February.
Nikolai Patrushev, the secretary of Russia's Security Council and a long-time ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said in early November that "the risk that nuclear, chemical and biological weapons will be used is increasing."
Ukraine made sweeping gains in Kherson in its first counteroffensive in late 2022, pushing Russian forces back to the east bank of the Dnieper River, which has roughly marked the front lines in the region throughout 2023.
Soldiers from the Russian 810th Naval Infantry Brigade arrived in Krynky in early October, and likely took over from Russia's 18th Combined Arms Army in the area, the ISW has previously said.


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Ukraine claiming another SU-30 and another SU-34 today, Dec 25th.
Merry Christmas…
…On the night of December 25, 2023, Russia attacked Ukraine with 31 Shahed kamikaze drones from the areas of Chauda and Balaklava (Crimea), as well as two aircraft missiles.
Ukrainian Air Force and defense forces destroyed 28 Shahed-136/131 attack UAVs in Odesa, Kherson, Mykolaiv, Donetsk, Kirovohrad, and Khmelnytskyi regions as a result of air combat.
During the air attack, Russia also used an X-59 guided missile in the Zaporizhzhia direction and an X-31P anti-aircraft missile from the Black Sea. Both were destroyed!
Air Force anti-aircraft missile units also destroyed two enemy aircraft: one Su-34 in Donetsk region (which was reported in the evening) and one Su-30SM over the Black Sea.
Glory to Ukrainian Defenders!
Source: General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces
Merry Christmas…
…On the night of December 25, 2023, Russia attacked Ukraine with 31 Shahed kamikaze drones from the areas of Chauda and Balaklava (Crimea), as well as two aircraft missiles.
Ukrainian Air Force and defense forces destroyed 28 Shahed-136/131 attack UAVs in Odesa, Kherson, Mykolaiv, Donetsk, Kirovohrad, and Khmelnytskyi regions as a result of air combat.
During the air attack, Russia also used an X-59 guided missile in the Zaporizhzhia direction and an X-31P anti-aircraft missile from the Black Sea. Both were destroyed!
Air Force anti-aircraft missile units also destroyed two enemy aircraft: one Su-34 in Donetsk region (which was reported in the evening) and one Su-30SM over the Black Sea.
Glory to Ukrainian Defenders!
Source: General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces
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Is that their monetary value ir political and military value?
APDR reports that Ukraine has made a request for the 45 NH-90 helicopters that the Australian government had previously decided to scrap.
DEF MIN Richard Marles now states that the helicopters will be disposed of in a manner that maximizes their value.
There is no indications that this means they will definitely go to Ukraine. All that can be ascertained here is that they are likely not going to end up like the F-111's.
https://t.co/PY3rECNmH7
APDR reports that Ukraine has made a request for the 45 NH-90 helicopters that the Australian government had previously decided to scrap.
DEF MIN Richard Marles now states that the helicopters will be disposed of in a manner that maximizes their value.
There is no indications that this means they will definitely go to Ukraine. All that can be ascertained here is that they are likely not going to end up like the F-111's.
https://t.co/PY3rECNmH7

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Here comes another one
with pictures
According to the Commander of the Air Force of Ukraine, Russian landing ship Novocherkassk was destroyed in Feodosia during tonight’s attack.
Novocherkassk:
Displacement 2,812 tons;
Length 112.5 m;
Width 15.01 m;
Capacity 500 tons of cargo;
Crew 87.
Novocherkassk:
Displacement 2,812 tons;
Length 112.5 m;
Width 15.01 m;
Capacity 500 tons of cargo;
Crew 87.

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APDR reports that Ukraine has made a request for the 45 NH-90 helicopters that the Australian government had previously decided to scrap.
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I must admit it does look impressive, another supply route closed off 

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Confirmation it has been sunk.
Ukraine suspects Russia was using this giant landing ship to transport Shahed attack drones, which remain effective by forcing Ukraine to use expensive air defense munitions, and some still manage to get past Ukraine's defenses and strike civilian targets, while only costing $20k
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Ohhh dear never mind, another lowlife that hopefully is terminal
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Noooooo it cannot be correct. It wouldn’t be RT porkies to deflect from their failings in Crimea and the ship and jet losses?
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So much for evacuating your troops. I almost felt sorry for them.
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