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Various reports on the hits from one to three.
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Alleged film of the burning in the docks.
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I too believe that Russia will collapse both economically and militarily, was happens within Russia belongs to them, either way Russians are looking at 3 decades of serious "Hardship"
In the meantime, I see no reason why NATO countries cannot provide Ukraine with Air Superiority over its territory with immediate effect.
In the meantime, I see no reason why NATO countries cannot provide Ukraine with Air Superiority over its territory with immediate effect.
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The Minsk that was hit in the dry dock along with the Submarine has had its superstructure removed, the hull patched up and has been re floated and removed from Sevastopol dry dock to allow another vessel to use it. Though that depends on the dock machinery etc, pretty fast work to get it out though.
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For me that Time article has to be one of the most damaging pages of written words since Neville Chamberlain waved his peace in our time letter in the air.
Within a few scant pages Ukraine has all but destroyed the belief at home and abroad that they can win, a belief that was driving Western aid and funding.
I can understand Countries having doubts about pouring billions into the Country when the Country itself is doubting they can win.
I would hate to think what it does for moral of the troops, go fight, defend our Country with your lives, but we won’t win though..
Ukraine has done everything the West has asked, then, perhaps it is time the West returns that favour in Kind.
The thoughts of a Ukrainian reserve officer. Tatarigami_UA
Within a few scant pages Ukraine has all but destroyed the belief at home and abroad that they can win, a belief that was driving Western aid and funding.
I can understand Countries having doubts about pouring billions into the Country when the Country itself is doubting they can win.
I would hate to think what it does for moral of the troops, go fight, defend our Country with your lives, but we won’t win though..
Ukraine has done everything the West has asked, then, perhaps it is time the West returns that favour in Kind.
The thoughts of a Ukrainian reserve officer. Tatarigami_UA
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I wouldn’t bother to discuss it, if not recent article from Time Magazine, where Zelensky was painted by some advisers as “delusional” for willing to fight the war.
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I wouldn’t bother to discuss it, if not recent article from Time Magazine, where Zelensky was painted by some advisers as “delusional” for willing to fight the war.
NBC recently published an article titled:
"U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say." Once again, we find ourselves discussing weak politicians who are looking for a solution by appeasing the aggressor.
If the U.S. and Europe were to pressure Ukraine into making territorial concessions (which could be highly unpopular within Ukraine, placing immense political pressure on the President), it might only strengthen Putin's belief in the West's weakness.
In 2014, the annexation of Crimea and the occupation of Donbas was met with a weak response, further encouraging Putin to the events in 2022. Unfortunately, there seem to be no diplomatic solutions that can lead to a positive outcome. It's difficult to envision a scenario where peace can be achieved in Europe if Putin's demands are met.
Even if Russia or Putin were to provide security guarantees, their past actions, such as violating the Budapest Memorandum and "security guarantees" to Prigozhin, make these assurances meaningless. It's uncertain how any "agreement" could ensure Ukraine's safety.
Russia will spend the coming years strengthening its military, while Western support for Ukraine, already dwindling during wartime, could be even scarcer during peacetime.
This can only encourage the known pattern:
- Invade a country.
- Use the threat of nuclear escalation to pressure the West
. - Wear down the West until they concede.
- Repeat.
To prevent long-term instability in Europe, sporadic conflicts and even another large-scale war between Ukraine and Russia, the focus should start shifting from pressuring Ukraine to concede territories into providing enough support to Ukraine in order to win.
This support could enable Ukraine to inflict sufficient damage on Russia, compelling them to withdraw, as seen in cases like Kherson and Kharkiv. Anything else is a search for easy but wrong decisions, political cuckoldism and decadence.
"U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say." Once again, we find ourselves discussing weak politicians who are looking for a solution by appeasing the aggressor.
If the U.S. and Europe were to pressure Ukraine into making territorial concessions (which could be highly unpopular within Ukraine, placing immense political pressure on the President), it might only strengthen Putin's belief in the West's weakness.
In 2014, the annexation of Crimea and the occupation of Donbas was met with a weak response, further encouraging Putin to the events in 2022. Unfortunately, there seem to be no diplomatic solutions that can lead to a positive outcome. It's difficult to envision a scenario where peace can be achieved in Europe if Putin's demands are met.
Even if Russia or Putin were to provide security guarantees, their past actions, such as violating the Budapest Memorandum and "security guarantees" to Prigozhin, make these assurances meaningless. It's uncertain how any "agreement" could ensure Ukraine's safety.
Russia will spend the coming years strengthening its military, while Western support for Ukraine, already dwindling during wartime, could be even scarcer during peacetime.
This can only encourage the known pattern:
- Invade a country.
- Use the threat of nuclear escalation to pressure the West
. - Wear down the West until they concede.
- Repeat.
To prevent long-term instability in Europe, sporadic conflicts and even another large-scale war between Ukraine and Russia, the focus should start shifting from pressuring Ukraine to concede territories into providing enough support to Ukraine in order to win.
This support could enable Ukraine to inflict sufficient damage on Russia, compelling them to withdraw, as seen in cases like Kherson and Kharkiv. Anything else is a search for easy but wrong decisions, political cuckoldism and decadence.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Russia has conducted unsuccessful tests of Yars and Bulava missiles (nuclear weapons carriers) - Defence Intelligence of Ukraine informs.
◾️ On November 1, 2023, Russia conducted unsuccessful tests of the RS-24 Yars intercontinental ballistic missile, which is the main component of the ground-based strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation.
◾️ The Yars missile was launched from the Plesetsk cosmodrome at a target at the Kura test site by a combat crew of the 33rd Missile Army of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Armed Forces.
◾️ According to Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, the Yars missile went off course, as it did during the previous command and staff exercises of the strategic nuclear forces of the aggressor state of Russia on October 25, 2023.
◾️ Similarly, a test launch of the RSM-56 Bulava ballistic missile from the Borey submarine missile cruiser failed on October 25, 2023, which once again proved its unreliability.
◾️ Moscow also has serious problems with the ICBM RS-28 Sarmat silo-based missile, which is one of the key projects in the process of modernization of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation announced by the aggressor. In reality, the Sarmat is an unfinished, imperfect missile.
◾️ All of the above problems of the Russian strategic nuclear forces are probably the result of:
1. The sanctions policy of the civilized world
2. Corruption in Russia and the Russian army
3. Sabotage
◾️ On November 1, 2023, Russia conducted unsuccessful tests of the RS-24 Yars intercontinental ballistic missile, which is the main component of the ground-based strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation.
◾️ The Yars missile was launched from the Plesetsk cosmodrome at a target at the Kura test site by a combat crew of the 33rd Missile Army of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Armed Forces.
◾️ According to Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, the Yars missile went off course, as it did during the previous command and staff exercises of the strategic nuclear forces of the aggressor state of Russia on October 25, 2023.
◾️ Similarly, a test launch of the RSM-56 Bulava ballistic missile from the Borey submarine missile cruiser failed on October 25, 2023, which once again proved its unreliability.
◾️ Moscow also has serious problems with the ICBM RS-28 Sarmat silo-based missile, which is one of the key projects in the process of modernization of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation announced by the aggressor. In reality, the Sarmat is an unfinished, imperfect missile.
◾️ All of the above problems of the Russian strategic nuclear forces are probably the result of:
1. The sanctions policy of the civilized world
2. Corruption in Russia and the Russian army
3. Sabotage
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Were there not also reports of trained strategic missile troops being used as infantry in Ukraine?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
President @ZelenskyyUa commented on rumors that the EU and the US are allegedly putting pressure on Ukraine to negotiate with Russia.
"I don't know where this comes from and who writes it. Everyone knows my attitude, the opinion of Ukrainian society on this. We have repeatedly heard that at Ramstein we are allegedly being persuaded towards something, but this is not the case and will not happen," the President of Ukraine said.
"I don't know where this comes from and who writes it. Everyone knows my attitude, the opinion of Ukrainian society on this. We have repeatedly heard that at Ramstein we are allegedly being persuaded towards something, but this is not the case and will not happen," the President of Ukraine said.
President @ZelenskyyUa commented on rumors that the EU and the US are allegedly putting pressure on Ukraine to negotiate with Russia.
"I don't know where this comes from and who writes it. Everyone knows my attitude, the opinion of Ukrainian society on this. We have repeatedly heard that at Ramstein we are allegedly being persuaded towards something, but this is not the case and will not happen," the President of Ukraine said.
"I don't know where this comes from and who writes it. Everyone knows my attitude, the opinion of Ukrainian society on this. We have repeatedly heard that at Ramstein we are allegedly being persuaded towards something, but this is not the case and will not happen," the President of Ukraine said.
A proper leader - wish there were more like him.
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We should also remember that this was a mere 20 years after the end of The Great War
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off topic I know, but I still think that we were in no position to fight Germany in September 1938. I think Chamberlain knew it and was prepared to sacrifice his political career and his legacy to buy us (just enough) time to get ready for the eventual fight. If that's so, we should be glad that he did
That was still the case in the autumn of 1939, when France had a much stronger force and with BEF could have attacked across the border and post war, the surviving German high command admitted had they done that, they would likely not have been able to repel such a force.
But France (and UK) preferred to sit back and do nothing in the hope that nothing would happen, which did really make our joint declaration of war on Germany seem a rather strange thing to do. French High Command believed it wouldn't be strong enough to attack Germany until 1942, and just hoped that Germany wouldn't strike first. In fact they were stronger than Germany, and Germany did strike first 9 months later when they were ready.
Hindsight and all that...........
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First satellite images of the Ship in the Kerch yards.
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I do hope their figures are incorrect, though I should imagine barrel wear is a major problem for Russia. Lots of ammo is only useful if you have the barrels to fire them out off.
My goodness, what museum should we raid next? I've a few miles up in the Ferret, RR B60 engine and five-speed hydrobox if I remember right, great fun but nobody was shooting at me. Will protect against smallarms fire only and more worrying has no overhead armour as drones weren't invented 60 yrs ago. No cargo space either, but it's maybe better than the roadgoing 4x4s the brave Ukrainians use for transport in forward areas.
Xeptu
In the meantime, I see no reason why NATO countries cannot provide Ukraine with Air Superiority over its territory with immediate effect.
air to air combat between NATO and Russia - bombing of Russian and NATO airbases and radar sites !
escalation risking WW3.
good idea I think not!
In the meantime, I see no reason why NATO countries cannot provide Ukraine with Air Superiority over its territory with immediate effect.
air to air combat between NATO and Russia - bombing of Russian and NATO airbases and radar sites !
escalation risking WW3.
good idea I think not!
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Ferret in Ukraine. https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/...76624417128648