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Old 10th Aug 2023, 04:45
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I wonder which Putin they are praying too.

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More discarded cigarettes, either that or an inventory audit being prepared for.

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If I lived in Moscow, to be honest, I do not think I would be too worried about the drone attacks, the Kabab I picked up to eat on the way home might be a different matter though.
It's either Pixar filming Ratatouille II or the money allocated for pest control has been misappropriated........I think I know which.
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👍👍👍😎😎

These Ukrainians at @Wooden_Army are making really nice wooden models of HIMARS systems that can launch missiles, models consist of 580 parts. Their Kickstarter campaign ends in 10 days and they will be donating to a charity….

I think their story is that the idea for these models came from full size decoys that were already being made

Check them out, their Kickstarter page has TONS of info. Go ahead and claim yours!



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Not anymore it isn't, it has now been dispersed

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BREAKING:

Poland announces it will increase the number of troops stationed by the Belarusian border up to 10 000.

4000 of them will help the border guard stop illegal migrants sent by Lukashenko from entering, while 6000 will serve as a deterrent for the Wagner Group.

"Within two years, we will have the strongest land army in Europe. It is better to spend on the Polish Army than on foreign troops,"

Minister of Defense Mariusz Blaszczak
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Hey, Russia has nukes… and is prepared to use them.. use them..use them.. use them.. yawn.. use them……
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Take with a large pinch of salt, but various rumours emerging that ex-Abu Dhabi M2000-9 are already in Ukraine.

Ignoring their AD fit, they can carry SCALP/Storm Shadow without modification.

First rumoured back in March.​​​​​​​

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Even if not delivered it may be an indication delivery is imminent, especially now the USA has formally approved the training of pilots on the F16 and delivery of the aircraft.
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It would appear Ukraine may be ramping up the drone wars. Good, give them back one hundred fold what they have had to endure for months. It looks like a Moscow Airport was hit
Will the non-Russian carriers operating routes to Moscow still think it a safe destination for their aircraft if this continues?
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Is there any news of the UK Challenger tanks? It must be a challenge to support only 17 units with different ammunition and spares needs to other equipment. Their donation appears to have opened the floodgates for other countries to supply ... eventually.
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Is there any news of the UK Challenger tanks? It must be a challenge to support only 17 units with different ammunition and spares needs to other equipment. Their donation appears to have opened the floodgates for other countries to supply ... eventually.
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/...pand_article=1


The plan stems from the risk of the tank’s Chobham armor falling into Russian hands, allowing its military scientists to develop a counter, The Sun revealed, citing sources.

According to the British outlet, the composite armor, made of ceramics, steel, and shock-absorbing compounds, has never been breached by enemy fire.

“In the history of Challenger 2s only one has been destroyed in the battle and that was by friendly fire in Iraq,” the outlet quoted a source as saying.

“The Russians will be desperate to try and kill and capture a Challenger 2, partly for their propaganda but also to get their hands on its secrets.”
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How difficult is it to manufacture Challenger decoys ................ similar has been done before many times. Which of a squadron of tanks are the real ones? By the time the enemy finds out, his own turret could be in orbit.

As an historical footnote, the "when do we use our state of the art weapon and risk countermeasures" conundrum was a centrepiece of the Window debate in WW II.

As the enemy is almost certain to be only a short time behind with the same new science, my stance would be to use it as soon as circumstances are favourable.
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Decoys

How difficult is it to manufacture Challenger decoys

Manufacturing visual decoys is relatively easy, less so for a wider frequency spectrum.

There was a large RAE department based at Cardington for research and development of all things inflatable - boats, trains & planes.
Visit circa 1977, showed that almost any shape / size could be made from inflated balloon fabric, easy to repair and reposition when deflated.

Thoughts, silver paint as per WWII for radar / laser reflection. Paint spec tuned to local threat frequencies, plus surface glint.

Three sided radar reflector, luneburg lens, …

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Follow up to this report……

Ukraine War Thread Part 2

​​​​​​​🔥 "A fire broke out at the Mozyr Oil Refinery", - the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Belarus

P.S. A week after the warning of the SBU…



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Vranyo is the Rusian word for a particular kind of lying. Perun covers this in this video-

It can be summed up as "I am lying to you and you know it but we both accept it as it makes life easier for all of us."

Peerun has some of the best coverage of the war more at a strategic rather than a tactical level.
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