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Ukraine War Thread Part 2

Old 22nd Jun 2023, 10:57
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Hmmm ... Putin setting up a false flag terrorist attack? The NPP really should be under International control by now.
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 11:28
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Originally Posted by Beamr
The Swiss are at it again in the name of neutrality. And what a neutrality. Every country looking to buy weapons should remember the Swiss are neutral.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...96107246231567
That's already happening.

"The official, secretary general of the ASD Swiss defense industry federation Matthias Zoller, told Breaking Defense that in a recent meeting with Swiss economics minister Guy Parmelin, a dozen CEOs of defense companies had given recent examples of situations in which they had expected to have been asked for requests for proposals from abroad and didn’t get them. Some even got letters asking if their company could guarantee that they could share and deliver weapons in case NATO allies had to invoke Article 5 of its founding treaty "

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/03/...aine-conflict/
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 12:29
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Bridge thread. Crimean peninsula - Kherson region bridges.

This morning, the first strikes were made on the road bridges connecting Crimea with Kherson region. For convenience reasons, all news and available information on these bridges will be added to this thread.…


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Wreckage has been retrieved. Has MDBA france on it, guessing SCALP

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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 12:35
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That's already happening.
Very good! Thanks for the link!
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Overnight, Russians tried to hit the Kryvyi Rih Karachun Dam with Kh-47 missiles but they failed to reach their target, RBC reports with a reference to sources.

​​​​​​​On the 14th of September last year, Russians also launched an attack on the dam, damaging it.
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Wreckage has been retrieved. Has MDBA france on it, guessing SCALP
Storm Shadow has major components manufactured by MBDA in France delivered to Stevenage for assembly, and vice versa.

So the markings on parts aren’t a signifier of whether it was Storm Shadow or SCALP.

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Re. Swiss regulations, there's a huge land-war going on. It's force majeure. I don't understand why the involved parties in each case simply deliver the weapons and tell the Swiss to ***** themselves. What penalties can the Swiss enforce ? Refuse to deliver further weapons ? No buyers anyways.
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Sentinel-2 data processed by Ukrainian Hydrometeorological Institute

(light blue - water remaining on June 20, purple - Dnipro river bed).



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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Gargleblaster
Re. Swiss regulations, there's a huge land-war going on. It's force majeure. I don't understand why the involved parties in each case simply deliver the weapons and tell the Swiss to ***** themselves. What penalties can the Swiss enforce ? Refuse to deliver further weapons ? No buyers anyways.
Either that or put a ban on Swiss purchases by NATO countries of any new equipment. Hit them where it hurts... Their pockets.
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 14:20
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Originally Posted by Gargleblaster
Re. Swiss regulations, there's a huge land-war going on. It's force majeure. I don't understand why the involved parties in each case simply deliver the weapons and tell the Swiss to ***** themselves. What penalties can the Swiss enforce ? Refuse to deliver further weapons ? No buyers anyways.
Because other countries want to retain the ability to limit the distribution of their weapons : the USA has no interest in someone selling their best night-vision equipment to the Chinese , which would become more likely if the blanket acceptance of the validity of export approval were undermined.
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we are drifiting from the thread..

Meantime scratch one Russian Mi-24 in Belarus.


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we are drifiting from the thread..

Meantime scratch one Russian Mi-24 in Belarus.



https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...543108/photo/1
Back to the war?

Any sabotage/ false flag/ accident at the Nuclear Power Plant is NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR ORCS right now:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/0...=31.034,48.359

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Either that or put a ban on Swiss purchases by NATO countries of any new equipment. Hit them where it hurts... Their pockets.
It will amount to the same thing if companies make ability to re-export a condition of purchase ( or even being included in invitations to bid ) as previously mentioned.
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The bridge getting clobbered


And this would loosen the bowels. On the second car, the blast unbolted all four wheels and removed them, then neatly placed an exhaust system underneath it.


However, the Russians must think everyone is gullible... Ohh look, no exhaust, no engine and ermmm, no propshaft, now that IS a surgical strike.

https://twitter.com/azmax6346/status/1671804217156042752


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This brings home a weeks strikes and why. Basically the highway to hell.


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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 14:46
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I take a deep dive into small drone munitions via a remarkable but one-side David v Goliath battle - Barkas' Last Stand...

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/06/...like-no-other/

Drone Vs. Tank’: New Ukraine Footage Shows A ‘Battle’ Like No Other
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Old 22nd Jun 2023, 14:56
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
However, the Russians must think everyone is gullible... Ohh look, no exhaust, no engine and ermmm, no propshaft, now that IS a surgical strike.
Bizarre, isn't it. At least the railings weren't damaged when the cars hit them.
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Bizarre, isn't it. At least the railings weren't damaged when the cars hit them.
Are they trying to make it look like the strike did more damage than it actually did? Or perhaps that the bridge is used by private cars rather than the military?
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Are they trying to make it look like the strike did more damage than it actually did? Or perhaps that the bridge is used by private cars rather than the military?
The only explanation I can come up with is that they want to show their domestic audience just how many innocent civilians were brutally killed while driving their defenceless children to school (in cars with no wheels)
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