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Fate of RAF Scampton

Old 30th Mar 2023, 13:05
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Originally Posted by The Oberon
I am aware that the runway was refurbished a few years ago but only to allow the Red's hawks to operate, nothing heavier. Standing by to be corrected.
Nothing in the AIP (MIL) about Scampton's facilities (perhaps somebody has a copy of the ERS to hand with the entry still there) such as PCN/LCG, lighting or aids still available but I would think the runway surface would be capable of accepting aircraft like B767 or A330 types at least; I think it was a 767 they were going to use for the aborted Rwanda trip from Boscombe so they would probably aim for something similar if they wanted to use Scampton and in any case, when they re-built the runway for V bombers back in the '50s, the surface would need hefty reinforcement because there would be no telling how long it was meant to last.

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Old 30th Mar 2023, 14:15
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I'm pretty sure Scampton runway will handle a PA-28.
judging by HO succes rate to date, it is all they will need.

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Old 30th Mar 2023, 14:22
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Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY
I'm pretty sure Scampton runway will hancle PA-28.
judging by HO succes rate to date, it is all they will need.
The Shadow fleet bolt holed there a few years back when Waddington was getting resurfaced.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 02:00
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It’s not really the weight of the aircraft but it’s footprint.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 02:07
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I have been thinking is there other possible sites available and an urban exploration site brought up some.

Here are some

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/thread...rch-23.135047/


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Old 31st Mar 2023, 06:56
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Why is a r/w needed?
short bus trip to Waddo ,round the new bypass ,would do!
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Originally Posted by mahogany bob
Why is a r/w needed?
short bus trip to Waddo ,round the new bypass ,would do!
Scampton Holdings wanted to keep the airfield open. They wanted R313 to stay and anticipated the reds continuing to use it. They wanted to build a viewing area as part of the heritage site. Outside of the reds practice times the airfield would have been available for GA and the aspiration was that going forward it would be used as part of the new R&D enterprise park.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Itís not really the weight of the aircraft but itís footprint.
Actually, you're both sort of right, it's the weight of the aircraft and the surface area that weight is distributed over; when calculating the ACN, the main elements are number of wheels (undercarridge layout), size and pressure of tyre (how much surface area of the tyre is in contact with the ground), and flexability of the pavement you're going to be trampling over. Obviously, as the weight of the aircraft goes up so does the ACN.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 07:44
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Talk of ACNs and parking area etc reminds us that Manston is the obvious option.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 11:32
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I have been thinking is there other possible sites available and an urban exploration site brought up some.

Here are some

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/thread...rch-23.135047/
Catterick is in the sights now too.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 11:45
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Reading Jail is still up for grabs I believe.

Some one should write a ballad
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 13:28
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Originally Posted by skua
Talk of ACNs and parking area etc reminds us that Manston is the obvious option.
I did say this earlier but as usual, you lot ignored me
Manston has a lot going for it but I'm not sure how much 'gear' Mrs Gloag sold off when she closed the airfield; certainly she got rid of the radar and ILS; she would certainly have 'asset stripped' the place as much as possible. Maybe Riveroak and the CAA can be prevailed on to allow a few flights out during daylight (no lighting) and in VMC before they instal new systems which is not scheduled to happen before about 2026; course they could always decide the MOD could approve flights under the same conditions with the approval of Riveroak.
Equally Scampton could be used for daylight/VMC operations or maybe Peel Airports would allow use of Finningley; I don't think they've 'asset stripped' there yet but it might happen soon.
I should add that neither Manston nor Finningley are MOD owned hence there might be some sort of opposition to using them.

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A prediction;

Within 6 months of the first immigrant arrival, there will be a 'disturbance' because it's not up to standard and the Scampton accommodation will be burnt down!
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 16:30
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Originally Posted by Sky Sports
A prediction;

Within 6 months of the first immigrant arrival, there will be a 'disturbance' because it's not up to standard and the Scampton accommodation will be burnt down!
As was pointed out here recently, they don't come for hotels or other temporary / ad hoc accommodation - they come for houses.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 16:42
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Unless the locals get organised, Scampton is screwed.

OK, whilst we are on with predictions.

From the PM " [Rishi Sunak] is showing leadership on this issue by bringing forward proposals to provide accommodation at Catterick Garrison barracks in his constituency."
Prediction1: Within a matter of weeks it will be announced that unfortunately Catterick is not-suitable for asylum seeker accommodation [insert reason here] but our PM at least show leadership in offering it in HIS own constituency.

Prediction 2: Within months of announcing AS accommodation at the heart of military and ex-military towns and villages there will be a more sinister outcome than just a "disturbance". It is feared by Counter Terrorism that some of those entering the UK are being bank-rolled and are here for nefarious reasons. This is the Vipers Nest scenario mentioned earlier.

Prediction 3: Notwithstanding 2 above... Within a year LoO will be back on the agenda as a site.


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Old 31st Mar 2023, 17:30
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With respect to Satco's prediction 2, I think it's in very poor taste to locate unscreened asylum seekers anywhere near the location of service families where a partner is on operations.
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Old 31st Mar 2023, 17:34
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And the good Russians

Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY
Unless the locals get organised, Scampton is screwed.

OK, whilst we are on with predictions.

From the PM " [Rishi Sunak] is showing leadership on this issue by bringing forward proposals to provide accommodation at Catterick Garrison barracks in his constituency."
Prediction1: Within a matter of weeks it will be announced that unfortunately Catterick is not-suitable for asylum seeker accommodation [insert reason here] but our PM at least show leadership in offering it in HIS own constituency.

Prediction 2: Within months of announcing AS accommodation at the heart of military and ex-military towns and villages there will be a more sinister outcome than just a "disturbance". It is feared by Counter Terrorism that some of those entering the UK are being bank-rolled and are here for nefarious reasons. This is the Vipers Nest scenario mentioned earlier.

Prediction 3: Notwithstanding 2 above... Within a year LoO will be back on the agenda as a site.
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Scampton will cost a bouncing bomb
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Old 2nd Apr 2023, 23:37
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Looks like Gary Lineker was right, UK gov is introducing concentration camps in the UK can't believe it
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Old 2nd Apr 2023, 23:54
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No, he was not right (if that is what he said - I have paid zero notice to the hype surrounding GL and the BBC) ,
There is a big difference between concentration camps and what these proposed sites will be.
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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 07:45
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I have been thinking is there other possible sites available and an urban exploration site brought up some.

Here are some

https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/thread...rch-23.135047/
Aldergrove. Iíll just leave that thereÖ.
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