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Old 16th Jul 2023, 18:15
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Crikey!
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Crikey!
Lots of bling come free with a packet of cereal at CAS level. I believe he gets more when he retires.
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Lots of bling come free with a packet of cereal at CAS level. I believe he gets more when he retires.
Hasn't he already retired from the RAF?

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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
Hasn't he already retired from the RAF?
MRAF used to be the gizzit, IIRC. Or a Peerage? Lord Wigston of Woke-on-Sea?
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The exchange of feel good fripperies are the lubricant for nation to nation engagement at the senior levels. Everyone knows they are a polite but meaningless way to demonstrate support to the institution.
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I expect Sir Mike has not actually left the RAF yet and is still on terminal leave.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha...oyal_Air_Force

Marshal of the Royal Air Force (MRAF) is the highest rank in the Royal Air Force (RAF).[1] In peacetime it was granted to RAF officers in the appointment of Chief of the Defence Staff (CDS), and to retired Chiefs of the Air Staff (CAS), who were promoted to it on their last day of service. While surviving Marshals of the RAF retain the rank for life,[2] the highest rank to which officers on active service are promoted is now air chief marshal. Although general promotions to Marshal of the Royal Air Force have been discontinued since the British defence cuts of the 1990s, further promotions to the rank may still be made in wartime, for members of the Royal Family and certain very senior RAF air officers in peacetime at the discretion of the monarch; all such promotions in peacetime are only honorary, however.
​​​​​​​The option still exists, it would seem.
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Legion of Merit from USAF, I am amazed that he has the temerity to think he deserves anything from our allies. Emasculated transport fleet, Illegal discrimination policies, failed pilot training programme, continued run down of size of the RAF throughout his term of office, loss of confidence in the leadership of the RAF by the service itself at record levels (AFCAS). Smallest combat fleet in the history of the Air Force. Merit! What am I missing here?
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Aaah! now three props surrounded by a light blue circle I believe, as some of the more venerable ppruners will recall, it was an inverted chevron once!

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back in the day…….

it was recognised that there were two ways to skin a cat - ground based promotion wise. 1. Command 2. Technician

neither route had (generally) access to the higher echelons - Pilots only.

I did the ‘command’ route whilst continuing to exercise my technical skills. But I always felt that it was a big mistake to do it the other way round. At one unit I served (High on a hill) scheduled maintenance teams of 4 technicians were allocated to a single airframe. Quite often there were 3 Chf Techs and one JT. The 3 Chiefs would argue amongst themselves as to whose turn it was to order the JT about…..

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Unlike my contemporaries in ATC, I staggered up the ladder without being either an Instructor at the School or the Examining Board. Out of Branch employment or Staff jobs seemed to suffice! I was once told that getting away from ‘incestuous reporting’ was beneficial at promotion boards.
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Originally Posted by MPN11
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The option still exists, it would seem.
It certainly appears to have applied to the promotion of Lord Stirrup in the sense of the last sentence of the reference,.
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is wiggly responsible for this too? Surely making the RAF a bit of a laughing stock? P.S. this (person?) might do a perfectly good job btw
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is wiggly responsible for this too? Surely making the RAF a bit of a laughing stock? P.S. this (person?) might do a perfectly good job btw
The Met Police are the same, it's not that this is the norm,but a number of serving male personnel have their hair in a fashion which staggers belief that its allowed. I saw an Inspector once with a shoulder lengh perm in a pony tail and a Sergent with long hair wearing a head band, all in uniform btw, not under cover.

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"number of serving male personnel have their hair in a fashion which staggers belief that its allowed."

they're paid to do a job - not look good or to fit into some 1950's idea of same.
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Useful handhold for some of the people the police have to deal with, even more so these days. In my time forbidden for this reason.
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"number of serving male personnel have their hair in a fashion which staggers belief that its allowed."

they're paid to do a job - not look good or to fit into some 1950's idea of same.
Or even a 1990s or noughties idea of just looking realistic, the old they're paid to do a job, bare functionary, attitude has been around since before the 1950s and has been used to excuse the constant erosion of everything. Tell me does the Sergeant with the corn rows, or whatever, take part in ceremonial parades like Remembrance Sunday like that. What an awful presentation. Bare function alone isn't enough, never has been.

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Old 18th Jul 2023, 09:44
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All part of ASTRA and Wiggo's Diversity policies. 'However, whatever style is chosen, it must still allow Service issue headdress to be worn correctly'. I am suprised the cultural appropriation police haven't clamped down on this one unless he can prove Lacedaemonian origins.

We dinosaurs may be subconciously jealous, I remember paying for what I thought was a ridiculously short haircut the day before joining, the BRNC authorities disagreed and I was sent straight to the barber.
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
Or even a 1990s or noughties idea of just looking realistic, the old they're paid to do a job, bare functionary, attitude has been around since before the 1950s and has been used to excuse the constant erosion of everything. Tell me does the Sergeant with the corn rows, or whatever, take part in ceremonial parades like Remembrance Sunday like that. What an awful presentation. Bare function alone isn't enough, never has been.

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That's another thing, that Sergeant could do with skipping a few meals, his shirt looks like an over full bin bag. But would he be a first choise as a poster boy image for the the modern RAF?

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