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Can Wigston survive the onslaught?

Old 1st Jun 2023, 22:54
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Says it all really. Wokeston, you have simply been the worst CAS ever. You should have done the decent thing and resigned last summer. Look below what YOU have done to the RAF from the AFCAS 2023 results.

Thank God we have Sir Rich coming. I have so much hope that he will reverse and re-boot some of the awful things that you and your naked 3-star did. At least Sir Rich is starting at rock bottom; it can’t get any worse from this point onwards!







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Old 1st Jun 2023, 23:59
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For those who haven't found it, here is a link to the Front Page Summary of 2023 AFCAS Report.

AFCAS Front Page (publishing.service.gov.uk)

Having left the Service 13.5 years ago, I was absolutely staggered at how bad some of the stats are - certainly not how I would have rated my own situation at the time I left.

For instance:

Satisfaction with Service Life in General: only 52% for Officers

Satisfaction with their job in general: 56%

RAF personnel satisfied with the standard of major equipment: 34%

RAF personnel satisfied with the availability of major equipment: 35%

RAF personnel that agree change is managed well: 17% - not really surprised at this one having gone through several reviews / drawdowns / re-orgs in 20+ years in posts above unit level when the last major change wasn't even fully implemented before the next started.

Attitudes towards RAF senior leaders:
- Keen to listen to subordinates' feedback: 26%
- Communicate decisions: 25%
- Understand the impact of change on personnel: 15%

Confidence in the leadership of the RAF has halved in the last 2 years: 36% > 18% now - lowest since the question was first asked 8 years ago

Satisfaction with pay has returned to the lowest level ever: Officers 42% / ORs 29% / Overall 31%

Satisfaction with allowances down 19% in 2 years to from 57% to 39%


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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 06:39
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Originally Posted by Chugalug2
If this scandal started and stopped with ACM Wigston it would be of some comfort. Sadly it didn't. It is what happens to any military after prolonged periods of peace, by which I mean without major or World Wars. Instead of leaders being brought to the high command out of necessity, career seekers bring themselves, often with some agenda or other but always with a single minded determination to make it at the cost of everyone else. Shortcuts, bullying, and downright lies achieve what the lack of leadership cannot. The cost is invariably paid by subordinates, usually at one star or below. Hence these unfortunate male candidates who never made it to IOC, but even more tragically those who died in avoidable air accidents because the mandated airworthiness regulations were subverted and suborned on the orders of other VSOs from the Star Chamber.

The cost in blood and treasure is scandal enough, but it pales in the future cost of trying (and failing?) to gain Air Superiority from a rival hostile air power with a lack of airworthiness riddling our Air Fleets. Someone suggested a future engineer CAS, which would be a great start. Whatever race, creed, or sexual classification of future air crew, it will be of secondary importance to the lack of airworthiness suffered by our aircraft.

The leadership of the Royal Air Force has utterly failed the Service and the Nation. Reform is urgent. It should start with the removal of Air Regulation and Accident Investigation from the maw of the MOD/RAF (and each other). Only then can the long journey to reform commence.
the single biggest blocker to aviation innovation (akin to the rapid activity the Ukrainians are going through) are “airworthiness regulations”.

I imagine most of our combat fatalities will come from poorly prepared pilots unable to think and aviate outside a “safe” environment.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 08:32
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Originally Posted by alfred_the_great
the single biggest blocker to aviation innovation (akin to the rapid activity the Ukrainians are going through) are “airworthiness regulations”.

I imagine most of our combat fatalities will come from poorly prepared pilots unable to think and aviate outside a “safe” environment.
You have expressed these sentiments before, atg, so I suspect we shall simply go on navigating around the same old buoy to little or no effect. Let's just agree that to win wars you have to train hard in peace. There is no training value to your aircraft spontaneously exploding following AAR. There is no training value in not being warned of your SSR failing, leaving you exposed to a blue on blue strike. There is no training value in two identical aircraft colliding in poor vis having extinguished illegally fitted strobes that would otherwise blind them. There is no training value in not fitting Explosion Suppressant Foam into a tactical transport leaving it open to being felled by a single round. There is no training value in rendering an ejection seat certain to fail by ordering an illegal in situ uncoupling and recoupling of its drogue shackle. There is no training value in granting a knowingly grossly unairworthy aircraft an RTS, leading to an inevitable predictable tragic outcome.

What 'innovations' did these deliberately VSO directed actions achieve? If you mean that in war rules and regulations may be secondary to military necessity, then we are in violent agreement! If intervening in a fire fight by clinging to the outside of an attack helicopter to enable wounded to be withdrawn, so be it. Such is war. Ukraine is at war. That is why they 'innovate' as you put it. We are at peace and need to preserve our precious aircrew and aircraft as much as possible for going to war. We also need to ensure that the list of airworthiness related fatal air accidents listed above are avoided by ensuring that our aircraft are airworthy. An unairworthy air force going to war will not fare well at all. All that has to go hand in hand with realistic peace time training. Not an easy mix, but throwing the baby out with the bathwater is not the answer. What is needed is leadership, the elephant in the room conspicuous by its absence today.

This is not thread drift, this is the same issue as highlighted by this thread, the scandal of poor and incompetent leadership in the RAF's High Command.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 08:33
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Wigston was assisted in his endeavours by his dentist, whose part-time job is "Head of Personnel": joking of course.
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This is the RAF I joined.....


Until something as appealing is restored for today's youngsters, I can't see applicants falling over themselves to join, particularly given the woeful state of pilot training.

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Originally Posted by alfred_the_great
the single biggest blocker to aviation innovation (akin to the rapid activity the Ukrainians are going through) are “airworthiness regulations”..
After all these years, still no clue.
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"It is what happens to any military after prolonged periods of peace, by which I mean without major or World Wars. Instead of leaders being brought to the high command out of necessity, career seekers bring themselves, often with some agenda or other but always with a single minded determination to make it at the cost of everyone else. "

Which is why when most big wars occur most of the So's are fired within 6-12 months in any armed service, anywhere. And they're replaced by people at least one, sometimes two generations, younger

The skills needed to fight a war are different from those need to "administer" - determination, willingness to accept risks, ability to concentrate on one aim........... none of those get you anywhere in peacetime
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 13:42
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"It is what happens to any military after prolonged periods of peace, by which I mean without major or World Wars. Instead of leaders being brought to the high command out of necessity, career seekers bring themselves, often with some agenda or other but always with a single minded determination to make it at the cost of everyone else. "

Which is why when most big wars occur most of the So's are fired within 6-12 months in any armed service, anywhere. And they're replaced by people at least one, sometimes two generations, younger

The skills needed to fight a war are different from those need to "administer" - determination, willingness to accept risks, ability to concentrate on one aim........... none of those get you anywhere in peacetime
An interesting quotation - it would be very useful to know how your comments relate to your own service?

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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 14:40
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Another day - another Sky News headline rubbing it in!

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So when he is gone does this mean the other bunch off lemmings will still be there, or can his replacement help them over the cliff?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 16:45
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"And it is goodbye from him" (Wigston) this morning. Many will be hoping that the bottom of the barrel has been reached and onwards and upwards, but is it too late?
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This is the RAF I joined......
Beags,
Thanks for the video - I joined the 'knife and fork course' at S Cerney in 1961 but I cannot identify any of the cadets - some of them must have gone to V Force or Transports, and they must have all been about my age !
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That was the short course...the full course included `the spoon`...
`Once heard at the dining table in an OM,,`Peas and beans are not Officers vegetables``
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That damning AFCAS survey is surely the collective verdict on Wigston and his three year term. So sad for those who have a care for the RAF.
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So when he is gone does this mean the other bunch off lemmings will still be there, or can his replacement help them over the cliff?
I sincerely hope that Rich Knighton is spending this weekend implementing a cleaning house plan - starting with the Dentist.
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An interesting quotation - it would be very useful to know how your comments relate to your own service?

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the quotation was from Chug - whose record on documenting and calling out deficiencies stands pretty solid I think.

The statement that there is a clear out in almost all armed services after the start of a major war is a historic fact
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Good riddance to an embarrassment of a CAS, hopefully we can now get back to concentrating on the important things rather than endless D&I targets.
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I served as a driver airframes for 19 years between 1955 and 1974 and I cannot remember the name of any of the CAS's during that time!
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And the inevitable ‘very sub-inflationary because we can’t strike but will cover everyone else who has been on strike’ pay rise will do absolutely nothing to reverse those figures.

Most of those issues are long term structural and have been around for years. The only way you’ll see a rapid improvement is by throwing money at pay and factors affecting the lived experience. Creating Thunderbird 2 might have to wait if you want to head off even greater discontent.

No doubt the ‘Independent’ PRB will recognise the issues but be over ruled by their political masters.
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