UKMFTS Failing to Deliver...again
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https://warontherocks.com/2023/06/fl...ilot-training/
FLYING DESKS, NOT PLANES: THE BACKLOG IN BRITISH FAST JET PILOT TRAINING
FLYING DESKS, NOT PLANES: THE BACKLOG IN BRITISH FAST JET PILOT TRAINING
And we keep believing the Britain doesn't have corruption...........
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OPSEC permitting - as far as I understand UKMFTS doesn't include Phase 3 but it appears operational commitments are restricting airframe availability but that is perhaps moot if only 25% of the slots are being used. However, is the availability of F-35 & Typhoon/Hawk T2 for OCU/AFJT having a knock on effect on advanced QFI training? I assume with the relevant exercises occuring there is still an adequate QWI throughput. 
OPSEC permitting - as far as I understand UKMFTS doesn't include Phase 3 but it appears operational commitments are restricting airframe availability but that is perhaps moot if only 25% of the slots are being used. However, is the availability of F-35 & Typhoon/Hawk T2 for OCU/AFJT having a knock on effect on advanced QFI training? I assume with the relevant exercises occuring there is still an adequate QWI throughput.
Questions 84-86.....
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Thanks N_a_B, rather ironic the service that has traditionally struggled with (FJ) aircrew numbers was at the time providing all but 2 of the F-35 OCU QFIs. So, I was right to be concerned.
Q84 Sarah Atherton: Going back to the F-35, it is taking around 12 years for a QFI to qualify, and all but two in 207 Squadron are Navy not RAF—I will leave that one with you. Have you got enough instructors?
Air Chief Marshal Wigston: It is not just a Lightning challenge; across all our frontline forces it is a constant challenge to grow the instructors. You need people with the skills and experience. Whether that is weapons instructors, flying instructors, helicopter instructors, that is the critical cohort across all our forces, and particularly a force like Lightning, which is in growth. I would say the same for Poseidon and for Protector.
Q85 Sarah Atherton: Have you got American instructors?
Air Marshal Knighton: On squadron, we have three exchanges—an Australian, a US marine corps and a US air force. We have British pilots in their systems as well. We are not specifically using US air force pilots to instruct per se, but we find these exchanges very valuable, because we pick up insights from pilots who come from other countries. Likewise, our pilots are able to give them interesting insights, and then we bring them back into the force.
Air Chief Marshal Wigston: We have industry partners in the simulator—those of you who visited might have seen them—who are also instructing, which again speaks to the enterprise and the working relationship with industry, not only in delivering serviceable aeroplanes but in contributing to generating the trained aircrew.
Q86 Sarah Atherton: How much of a challenge is it when the carrier—singular—goes out and you take instructors from Marham?
Air Chief Marshal Wigston: It is a very good question. This is a critical phase in the growth of the Lightning force. We consciously took a pause in the growth of the force—of the trained pilots and engineers—to make sure that the carrier strike group deployment all the way to Japan in 2021 was a success. We recognised that the price we would pay for that—or one of the things that we would have to accept with that—is that the force growth would level off for that period. Over the past year, however, we have absolutely been able to ramp it up again. This year, two pilots are graduating around about now, and another seven will graduate between now and August. The force is on the way and we will be standing up the second frontline squadron this year.
Air Chief Marshal Wigston: It is not just a Lightning challenge; across all our frontline forces it is a constant challenge to grow the instructors. You need people with the skills and experience. Whether that is weapons instructors, flying instructors, helicopter instructors, that is the critical cohort across all our forces, and particularly a force like Lightning, which is in growth. I would say the same for Poseidon and for Protector.
Q85 Sarah Atherton: Have you got American instructors?
Air Marshal Knighton: On squadron, we have three exchanges—an Australian, a US marine corps and a US air force. We have British pilots in their systems as well. We are not specifically using US air force pilots to instruct per se, but we find these exchanges very valuable, because we pick up insights from pilots who come from other countries. Likewise, our pilots are able to give them interesting insights, and then we bring them back into the force.
Air Chief Marshal Wigston: We have industry partners in the simulator—those of you who visited might have seen them—who are also instructing, which again speaks to the enterprise and the working relationship with industry, not only in delivering serviceable aeroplanes but in contributing to generating the trained aircrew.
Q86 Sarah Atherton: How much of a challenge is it when the carrier—singular—goes out and you take instructors from Marham?
Air Chief Marshal Wigston: It is a very good question. This is a critical phase in the growth of the Lightning force. We consciously took a pause in the growth of the force—of the trained pilots and engineers—to make sure that the carrier strike group deployment all the way to Japan in 2021 was a success. We recognised that the price we would pay for that—or one of the things that we would have to accept with that—is that the force growth would level off for that period. Over the past year, however, we have absolutely been able to ramp it up again. This year, two pilots are graduating around about now, and another seven will graduate between now and August. The force is on the way and we will be standing up the second frontline squadron this year.
I'm not sure, 'we had to pause the growth of the force to do the thing it's supposed to do' is a great defence to be honest.
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"The Ministry of Defence has released a tender notice for the provision of pilot cadet training as part of the Air Cadet Pilot Scholarship Scheme (ACPS)."
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"The Ministry of Defence has released a tender notice for the provision of pilot cadet training as part of the Air Cadet Pilot Scholarship Scheme (ACPS)."
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/mini...adet-training/
"The Ministry of Defence has released a tender notice for the provision of pilot cadet training as part of the Air Cadet Pilot Scholarship Scheme (ACPS)."
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/mini...adet-training/
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So the two (useless white
) guys are shoehorned into an existing training contract with Qatar because MFTS just can't do the job properly.........at least they'll be top of the course
) guys are shoehorned into an existing training contract with Qatar because MFTS just can't do the job properly.........at least they'll be top of the course
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And we keep believing the Britain doesn't have corruption...........
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Training Pipeline Update?
Following the Sky News expose a couple of years ago, which revealed that it was taking the RAF 7.5 years to train FJ pilots, does anyone have a credible answer to the question...has it improved since then?
Heres a solution (pre April 1st)
- all RW contract out to Buckeburg or Dax would say Mother Rucker / Novosel
- all FJ - contract out to IFTS at Deci
all M/E - contract out to Lufthansa Flight Training
QED with considerable savings to the treasury and have half decent aircrew at the other end
lol
cheers
- all RW contract out to Buckeburg or Dax would say Mother Rucker / Novosel
- all FJ - contract out to IFTS at Deci
all M/E - contract out to Lufthansa Flight Training
QED with considerable savings to the treasury and have half decent aircrew at the other end
lol
cheers