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UKMFTS Failing to Deliver...again

Old 19th Aug 2022, 12:37
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
But, as highlighted by many, the actual problem lies at the OCU stage, which IS all in house!
To me, the various posts here indicate that the different parts of delivering trained aircrew are stovepiped. Is there one person in charge of the whole, and does he/she/it have the authority to match responsibility? I wonder if the answer is it all only comes together at CAS's level, which would explain a lot.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
Iím afraid that, due to commercial sensitivities, I am not at liberty to say anything on here. Itís also worth pointing out that my days as the resident Hawk hero are numbered. As of 20 Sep Iíll be a civilian and no longer flying Hawks. 3011 hours on type (T1/T2/115/165/166) is enough for anyone!

BV
Thank you for your service, sir.

With whatís going on at the moment, you must be looking forward eagerly to the 20th. Good luck for the future.

I, for one have enjoyed your comment on here over the years. Please donít stop.





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Old 19th Aug 2022, 17:31
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Seconded, thank you very much.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 18:49
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Thanks gents.

Originally Posted by oldmansquipper
Thank you for your service, sir.

With whatís going on at the moment, you must be looking forward eagerly to the 20th. Good luck for the future.

I, for one have enjoyed your comment on here over the years. Please donít stop.
Thankyou very much for your kind comments. I still have a lot of love for the RAF and would not rule out rejoining in the future if circumstances suit me. Though I will admit to more concern than Iíve ever previously had about the direction the RAF is currently heading. As I sit on the periphery looking back over my shoulder it doesnít look pretty.

Iím sure Iíll still pop up from time to time but I will try my best to only comment on things I feel qualified to.

BV
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 20:35
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
Iím afraid that, due to commercial sensitivities, I am not at liberty to say anything on here. Itís also worth pointing out that my days as the resident Hawk hero are numbered. As of 20 Sep Iíll be a civilian and no longer flying Hawks. 3011 hours on type (T1/T2/115/165/166) is enough for anyone!

BV
What no 103/203, BV?

Or had they gone by the time you got to the land of the 166?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 20:57
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Well done Bob, great job. Had a ride in the back seat of a Hawk in the mid 90s with a well known and very Scottish QFI as part of a concocted exchange scheme with the airline run by Britain’s favourite bearded entrepreneur to our hopefully mutual benefit and certainly as much fun as it gets. I was the guinea pig for the exchange but I was completely in awe of the competence I witnessed. Not for the faint hearted; really only for the most driven and motivated, certainly nothing to do with the presently lunacy wrt diversity targets.
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 05:37
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
What no 103/203, BV?

Or had they gone by the time you got to the land of the 166?
When I started in country I was on a very specific contract to introduce the 166. The 103/203s were still going but I didnít get to fly them. They then went out of service during my time there. It would have been fun to fly a 203 though. Just like sitting in the back of a normal Hawk but with the front seat removed.

Olster.

That exchange was still going years later and I benefited from the return fixture when my wife and I got a free ride on a 747 to NY to purchase our wedding rings at a famous 5th Ave jewellers. We had some very nice seats as well, very near the front of the aircraft.

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Old 20th Aug 2022, 09:50
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And a radar!

I'd understood that most of the 103/203 fleet (2 103s and about four 203s) went VERY soon after the 166 came in, in late 2017 (contrary to the impression left by the 2022 IISS 'Military Balance', and the Flight Global 2022 Wolrd Air Forces) but that they kept a handful (1 Mk 103 and two or three 203s) as hacks and for senior officer currency until more recently - perhaps as late as 2020?

Like others, I unreservedly and enthusiastically wish you well with whatever you do next, but I have to confess that that's tinged with some sadness. It strikes me that you are EXACTLY the kind of officer that the RAF can ill afford to lose. Your input here has always shown you to be an intelligent, articulate, officer who is loyal but not unquestioning. I'm told by Valley mates that you're also a superb pilot, and a highly professional and coolly analytical instructor who is capable of delivering understandable, useful feedback and who is a great role model for his students.
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 16:00
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Good luck BV, I am sure that you will prosper away from the RAF. It took me 2 years to get an airline job but then I enjoyed 19 fun years in the big red and white (sometimes silver!) birds. Great for strimmers and cat food, not to mention lazy days on the beach in the Caribbean.

Now just turn a bi-plane upside down for fun - and try to avoid the Lifetime Allowance!

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Old 20th Aug 2022, 16:45
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Jacko and Mogwi

Thankyou both. And Jacko, Iím going to screengrab your post and save it. Itís as good as a valedictory letter! 🤣

Anyway, this thread isnít just about me so Iíll let the conversation continue.

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Old 20th Aug 2022, 17:44
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I echo the sentiments of the previous posters. As to valedictory letters your screen grab one may well be more accurate than the official one. I do not know who drafted mine but but it was very odd to say the least.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 15:35
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I didn’t get one. Not even a mention of my last SHAR trip, where I managed to struggle the jet back and land it with no pitch control! I also avoided the local school, church and old folks home.

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Old 21st Aug 2022, 16:18
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Mog..

DSC vs a sucky letter from the boss? Mmm, let me think You'll live mate!

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Old 21st Aug 2022, 16:35
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My Draft Valedictory was sent to my (French Ex Jaguar exchange) boss for completion. He handed it across to me to add whatever I liked to it.
So into the bin it went.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 17:01
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I left the CAF they way I joined it. My Commissioning Scroll arrived in a tube which was casually tossed to me by a Clerk as I walked by the unit Amin Office. My last official correspondence was a one paragraph PFO letter directing me to retire.

I am however not in the slightest bit bitter. At times I suffered under some truly toxic senior management, but they will never be able to take away my fond memories of the great people I worked with.
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Old 15th Sep 2022, 07:08
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It gets worse -



Just found the original link at https://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans...ence#g49064.q0
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Old 15th Sep 2022, 07:40
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Originally Posted by melmothtw

Thank you for the link.

MoD says:

"A fault has been identified with the Rolls-Royce/Safran Adour 951 engine, which powers the Hawk TMk2. Initial assessments suggest the reduction in aircraft availability will have an impact on UK Fast Jet (FJ) training output over the next three years, but work is ongoing to minimise that impact".

3 years might suggest a defect, rather than a fault. Two entirely different things.
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Old 15th Sep 2022, 07:50
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An MFTS problem?

I think not.

The Hawk T2 fleet is owned by the RAF, the 28 aircraft being a direct MoD procurement from BAE Systems.

Isn't this the supposed panacea that will solve all MFTS ills, RAF owned trainer aircraft as opposed to contractor owned?

Seemingly not..,

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Old 15th Sep 2022, 07:59
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An MFTS problem?

I think not.
'Unfortunately' there was no thread that I could find related to UK military flight training that wasn't related to UKMFTS.
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Old 15th Sep 2022, 08:01
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Because the RAF did such a good job on airworthiness with the Vigilants.........oh hang on...
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